Mosab Hassan Yousef. The son of one of the co-founders of Hamas. He talks about the Palestinian propaganda videos and more.
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I just look at how that one country has become such a curse to everyone around them. Nothing new under the sun.
Sky News Australia (now News24) posted an article based on an interview with Palestinian-American humanitarian activist Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib
Palestinian activist lashes the Hamas ‘cult’, says Gazans are ‘hostages’ in their own city (News24)
A Palestinian activist has described Hamas as cultlike, claiming the terror group has thrust “death, destruction, and human sacrifice” upon Gazans and turned them into “hostages” within their own city.
What you posted reminded me of Hamas torturing and killing a young Palestinian protester (against Hamas). I think he was 18 or 19. After they murdered him, they dumped his body on his parents' doorstep.
That could be technically true, though they are often indistinguishable. Zionism is a distinctly Jewish movement, and the majority of Jews support it. So, the distinction is easily blurred. And what, exactly, is your objection to Zionism? It was nothing more than a desire for a Jewish nation in their ancestorial homeland. Today, it is simply means continued support for the existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
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Yea right! Every people group on Earth can form a government - except the Jews. Nothing hateful about that!
And the pro-Palestinians forget that Islam spread from Saudi Arabia, conquering by the sword. North Africa, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria used to be Christian nations. Islam also spread to India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia. But the Jews can't have one tiny country, about the size of New Jersey?
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Israel literally removed Gaza and it's people off the face of the earth. Thousands of Palestinian children have been shot in the head and heart. Palestinian prisoners are sodomized with broomsticks. God only knows what happens to the children prisoners. And there are thousands of them. Civilians. And it's a common site to see their wells being filled with concrete as they try to grow food for themselves. All of this is happening now. You can give me all the propaganda videos you want.
But what I and millions of other non- christian zionists know is the pure EVIL that this state has bestowed upon humanity. Maybe you are actually one of them, I don't know. But you can never, ever justify what Israel is doing to those around them.
I think some here have been brainwashed by pro-Palestinian propaganda. All news reports, photos and videos had to be checked by Hamas before publishing. There have also been Pallywood or Gazawood videos...meaning they were acted out.
Hamas are the ones doing sexual torture. They did it to the hostages, even the men. Hamas tortured one couple for hours, sexually assaulted the wife in front of her husband, and then burned their baby in an oven in front of their eyes. Then murdered the couple. How do we know this happened? Hamas filmed it and sent it to their family members.
Brief trailer on a documentary about the sexual assaults. Documentary is on YouTube.
You’re literally justifying genocide—“Hamas did X , Y, and Z, therefore, killing all Palestinians is justified.” Hamas is evil, but so is Israel—their sin is the sin of Lamech.
Brief video. Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of one of the founders of Hamas). He was raised in it, he knows what he's talking about.
It's not genocide on the part of Israel... it's a war. And it was started by Hamas whose charter says to kill every Jew, even worldwide. Now that's genocide.
And it's Hamas that hides behind its civilians, hospitals and schools because they want many civilian deaths, in order to point the finger at Israel.
Israel meanwhile dropped leaflets and sent texts to warn the civilians to evacuate. But Hamas wouldn't let their people leave. Hamas threatened to kill them if they tried to leave.
Israel meanwhile dropped leaflets and sent texts to warn the civilians to evacuate. But Hamas wouldn't let their people leave. Hamas threatened to kill them if they tried to leave.
No, it’s genocide on the part of Israel. It stopped being a legitimate war some time ago. Again, it’s the sin of Lamech.
Once again, this doesn’t address the fact that Israel is committing genocide and only serves to justify it.
What is your solution to destroying Hamas when it has threatened to carry out more Oct 7th massacres and uses its civilian population as human shields?
The word "genocide" has a real meaning ... your use of the word is not only fatuous, it is malevolent.
The Gospel of Christ
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The title of this thread should've been called - "Misled Christians who don't know what Israel actually is."
Sunday School 101. England, 1780.
Christ is the King of "Israel", Israel is "not of this earth" and the King's followers; both jew & gentile, are the only "Israelite Race" that God the Father recognizes.
That's it Cletus.. there is no other.
Sunday School 101. England, 1780.
Christ is the King of "Israel", Israel is "not of this earth" and the King's followers; both jew & gentile, are the only "Israelite Race" that God the Father recognizes.
That's it Cletus.. there is no other.
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At its core, replacement theology is antisemitic.
The Gospel of Christ
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“Replacement" of what? If Christ is Israel’s King, Gentiles are grafted into the same covenant people, and Paul says descent from Israel does not by itself equal Israel, then calling that “antisemitic replacement theology” is turning Christianity upside down, exiling Christ from His own Israel, enthroning bloodline and geography in His place, and then demanding that everyone call the resulting theological train-wreck biblical.
You're taking the words of Christ, Paul, Peter and the earliest Church, throwing them in the garbage, and replacing them with a modern political doctrine while having the nerve and audacity to call everyone else "deceived".
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Replacement theology, or supersessionism, grew out of the view of the medieval church that Jews were "Christ killers" ... it is not found in the Bible.
The Gospel of Christ
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Medieval church?
Justin Martyr was writing around AD 155, and literally titled the argument:
“Christ is King of Israel, and Christians are the Israelitic race.”
He said Christ is Israel, and Christians - be they Jew, or Gentile - are the “true Israelitic race".
Irenaeus, around AD 180, says flat-out that Abraham’s seed is “the Church,” and that those of faith are Abraham’s children.
That’s quite a trick for a doctrine supposedly invented by the "medieval Church".
You’ve missed the date by roughly a thousand years.
Also, Let’s see…
Irenaeus, c. AD 180 — “His seed is the Church.”
Justin Martyr, c. AD 155 — “Christ is the Israel and the Jacob” … Christians are the “true Israelitic race.”
Justin Martyr — "Rejecting Christ means rejecting the One who sent Him: “he who insults and hates Him, insults and hates Him that sent Him.”
Cyprian, c. AD 250 — argues that the former covenant people lost their privileged standing through unbelief and that “the Christians had succeeded to their place,” coming from “all nations and from the whole world.”
Augustine — To be a “true Israelite”, one must follow the “true living Jesus” into the true promised inheritance.
Irenaeus — The prophets sowed concerning Christ, but “the Church reaped” and received the fruit.
So as far as historic Christianity goes, you don’t have a leg to stand on and you have a thousand-year hole where your argument is supposed to be
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