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My friends church is having a revival this week, and I am going tomorrow. But I have been to one of these with him before and they start shaking, running around, and speaking in tounges. And I have never felt the urge to do any of these things. I was just wandering if this is a usual thing that happens to people during a church revival or if this is just something they do. My friend say's they can't control it and that I don't have the holy spirit and that's why i don't act like them.
No church can say they are going to have a revival this week!God brings revival when people's hearts are contrite before him.If your heart is contrite it will be happening now not next tuesday at 7.30 pm when some guty starts shouting and working up a sweat!Jesus & the apostles never made people lose self-control!On the contrary they restored it in disturbed people through sound teaching and the miracles of God.Gal. 5:22: But the fruit of the Spirit is . . . temperance:Emotionalism is "the flesh". Just because they have received the Holy Spirit does NOT mean they are "walking in the Spirit". Rev. 3:1: And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.What men call "lively" isn't neccessarily what God calls lively!Jesus warned of "foolish virgins", and the Corinthians thought they were spiritual by all speaking in tongues in the meeting, Paul said they were carnal, there should only be one speaking at once and only 2 or 3 speak out in tongues, each with interpretation1Cor. 14:32: And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. . ..40: Let all things be done decently and in order.(followerofchrist;29102)
But I thought I got they holy spirit when I asked Jesus into my heart, was I wrong
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jer. 17v9)(Jesus warns that many who call Him "Lord" will be told "I never knew you", he's talking about church-goers, not agnostics !). So, God must bare independant witness, the apsotles waited for this, so do I . . .In the new testament it is known precisely when people receive the Holy Spirit, and when they hadn't. The way of salvation hasn't changed.At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit began to be given as never before, making people sons of God (see John 7v39, 14v17, 20, 16v7). The apostles reported:-“ . . . they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. . . having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he has shed forth this, which you now SEE and HEAR. . . For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to ALL that are afar off, even AS MANY AS the Lord our God shall call.” (Acts 2v4, 33, 39)If you were told that what you could "see and hear" (the speaking in tongues) was the promised Holy Spirit, and that this was to you and all who God would call, wouldn’t you expect to speak in tongues, or be told if this was not the case?With the gentiles:-“ While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.” (Acts 10v44)How did he know ?“For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.” (v46)If it is possible to receive the Spirit and NOT speak in tongues, the apostles were *wrong* to judge that the Spirit had just fallen upon people when they spoke in tongues, logically they could only say that people had *at some unknown time previously* received the Spirit . . . but they didn't.In Acts 8v5-18 we read of people who "believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women" (v12), we also read of "great joy", healings etc. Many would assume that these people have therefore received the Holy Spirit but . ."when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)" (vv14-16)Philip obviously sent a message to them so they all had a way of knowing that these believers had NOT YET received the Holy Spirit !!How ? The answer is freely given already, nothing is hidden, there is no secret way.My advise is get to a church that sticks to the bible way, nothing added, nothing taken away.I'm with [url="http://www.revivalusa.org]The Revival Fellowship[/url].