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City of Brotherly Love has 1,000 Looters

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by JohnDB, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. jaybird

    jaybird Well-Known Member

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    Philadelphia takes in millions in civil forfeiture, 72 million from 02 to 2014. this is more than any other city in the US. I think the most common seizure is the cops just take what ever cash they can find, but these days its becoming much more common for people to lose their cars and homes.

    These folks lost their home when their son was caught with $40 worth of drugs.

    Parents' house seized after son's drug bust - CNN

    when people start getting their homes seized for either doing nothing wrong or some kind of minor crime, these are what push people over the edge and contribute to riots.
     
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    JohnDB Well-Known Member

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    Ok...
    After reading the story,
    The parents got their house back. All they needed to do was kick out their 22 year old son who was selling heroin out of his parents house.

    And actually it's a kindness that was done. Most home invasions are over narcotics. Drug dealers are usually armed because of the volume of home invasions for money and drugs.

    Dad was always working 6&7 days per week and somehow mom was not aware?

    How would she react to a home invasion?

    This story may have been new to the national scene but I'm sure that it's not new to the area...but the son persisted in selling drugs out of the home. He didn't care about home invasions or his parents losing their home.

    AND
    They raised the son.
     
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    LOL :D
     
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    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    No they don't. Do you have any idea the damage a knife can do? I simply request that you gain some knowledge of the situation. Ignorance is no excuse.
    Firearms Experts Joke, "Never Bring A Knife To A Gunfight"? Here Are 5 Reasons They Were Wrong.

    The Science Behind the Tueller Drill: Why Knives May Be More Dangerous Than You Think - Tier Three Tactical



    So before you and others get all upset over this you might want to gain some knowledge as to just how dangerous knives can be. You don't have to be carrying a machete order to be dangerous.

    It is utter foolishness and ignorance to claim these officer were not in danger.
     
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    And those that are rioting can stop their evil acts. The cops are not at fault or reaponsible in any fashion. The ignorance of people is astounding.
     
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    What precisely would you have done? You claimed to have better judgement what exactly would you have done in this encounter?

    When approached by a person with a knife who is failing to obey your commands what would you have done?

    And if he charges you what would you have done?

    Are you aware that. 30% of officers that are attacked by a knife die?

    You have no idea what you are talking about. And neither does anyone else who criticizes the police in this situation.

    What happens if the guy turns and attacks a bystander or family member?

    For once I wish people who think like you went through a scenario just like this and see just how well you act. You would either be dead or maimed or some other citizens would be.
     
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    MattMooradian Well-Known Member

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    I would be very upset, also. But, I hope I do not turn to violence in an effort to stop them.
     
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  8. Hidden In Him

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    I didn't say they weren't, and statements like this make it apparent you are not reading my posts.
    If you were reading my posts you would know already. You are not. Why should I respond when you won't read this either?

    Good question?
     
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    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    I went back and didn't see any specifics. You said you would use better judgement. What does that mean in action? Maybe you could point to the post where you said what you would have done exactly. Just give me a post number and I will read it. I promise.
     
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    Part of my answers were in responses to others, but don't worry about it. There is enough divisiveness on this forum already as it is.

    Maybe part of my reaction was more emotional than it should have been to begin with. I know what is coming, and I take the view that the death of one or two should be weighed against the potential deaths of hundreds.

    But life goes on.

    No hard feelings.

    God bless,
    Hidden
     
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    they didnt sell drugs, i think thats the one key element. but maybe i dont know because i dont kow that local area. but i do know my local area, my neighbors were taken to jail when their nephew was caught buying crystal meth material. they were taking care of the nephew because his parents were never there and he had nowhere to go. the nephew was also retarded. since he was retarded the local drug dealer talked him in to riding to walmart and getting the drug making material, they got caught, my neighbors went to jail. they spent 24 hours in jail, and faced prison charges, or they could plead guilty and get a fine (and maybe probation?) they got a 10 thousand dollar fine, they dont make a lot of money so they will be paying on this the rest of their life.
     
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    Good dude. Looks like he lost some teeth to get that footage, and hasn't been dissuaded from still reporting on it.
     
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    RJS, watch 23:46 thru 24:46 in the above video. This is more of why I was telling you I am not particularly impressed with the Philly P.D. I am not against police in general, and I don't see how you would get that from reading Post #28. But poorly funded and poorly led Departments don't give me a lot of reason to defend them.

    If you think I have no right to complain, that's your right to say so.
     
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    I agree HIH,
    We ain't seen nuthin yet! And let us not be so naive to think that these evil spirits are not using politicians like puppets. Much of the inciting is being paid for, IMHO.
    There is no "brotherly love" other than those who are in Christ. We know who the rest belong to.
    And, since it is now "flu season", it will be even that much more unsettling :eek:
     
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    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member

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    This right here is a good line, LoL.

    It would appear Philadelphia is proving that to be true : )
     
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    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good.
     
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    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member

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    You sound like you might be a cop yourself, btw, and if so my apologies if I sounded judgmental. I'm very pro-cop actually. But I may be a bit spoiled where I am around here. They run a good operation here in South Louisiana, so things sort of stand out by comparison.

    But God bless, and good talking to you.
     
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    It seems poorly led may be some of the issue here. Just like the Portland and Seattle situations, where leftist politicians and appointees tell the cops what to do.

    You can see earlier in the video where the cops are assaulted, and verbally attacked and hindered, but don't react inappropriately. Good folks if you ask me.

    And while those cops going into the store to get the looters out, may not have acted the best, they probably had been running all night and been dealing with things and high anxiety situations all night. I have a tendency to cut them a little slack due to what they have faced. And I doubt very much that if you had been in their shoes and been in their position you would have reacted much differently. Well you probably wouldn't have been cursing at people. Me neither.
     
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    That's what I was seeing.
    Yes. I'm sure it's like anywhere else; some good, some decent, some not so great.
    I thought about the stress. That seemed really out of character. And you may be right, because they don't look like they are walking into a live situation with potentially armed perpetrators. They looked like they were walking to a meeting, Lol.

    Good points, probably not fair to judge without knowing how much of a night they had already been through.

    I'm guessing cops in major cities may be getting really fatigued in the near future. Not a job I would want.
     
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