City of Brotherly Love has 1,000 Looters

[jaybird]

Philadelphia takes in millions in civil forfeiture, 72 million from 02 to 2014. this is more than any other city in the US. I think the most common seizure is the cops just take what ever cash they can find, but these days its becoming much more common for people to lose their cars and homes.

These folks lost their home when their son was caught with $40 worth of drugs.

Parents' house seized after son's drug bust - CNN

when people start getting their homes seized for either doing nothing wrong or some kind of minor crime, these are what push people over the edge and contribute to riots.

 

[JohnDB]

Philadelphia takes in millions in civil forfeiture, 72 million from 02 to 2014. this is more than any other city in the US. I think the most common seizure is the cops just take what ever cash they can find, but these days its becoming much more common for people to lose their cars and homes.

These folks lost their home when their son was caught with $40 worth of drugs.

Parents' house seized after son's drug bust - CNN

when people start getting their homes seized for either doing nothing wrong or some kind of minor crime, these are what push people over the edge and contribute to riots.

Ok...
After reading the story,
The parents got their house back. All they needed to do was kick out their 22 year old son who was selling heroin out of his parents house.

And actually it's a kindness that was done. Most home invasions are over narcotics. Drug dealers are usually armed because of the volume of home invasions for money and drugs.

Dad was always working 6&7 days per week and somehow mom was not aware?

How would she react to a home invasion?

This story may have been new to the national scene but I'm sure that it's not new to the area...but the son persisted in selling drugs out of the home. He didn't care about home invasions or his parents losing their home.

AND
They raised the son.

 

[April_Rose]

Well if they broke into my house and did the unthinkable they would go out of my house in a bag ;)

LOL

 

[rjs330]

Of course not. And they were undoubtably defending more than themselves in that instance. But have you seen the video? For one thing you can't even see the knife it's so small, and for another he didn't look like much of a threat at the time as far as I'm concerned. He wasn't running after the cops, he was walking slowly and gesturing. Like the world is supposed to be terrified out of their boots.

The whole thing brings up the question of if procedure in this case is well-thought out, and if training is truly sufficient, and I think the blacks have every right to bitch here.

No they don't. Do you have any idea the damage a knife can do? I simply request that you gain some knowledge of the situation. Ignorance is no excuse.
Firearms Experts Joke, "Never Bring A Knife To A Gunfight"? Here Are 5 Reasons They Were Wrong.

The Science Behind the Tueller Drill: Why Knives May Be More Dangerous Than You Think - Tier Three Tactical

So before you and others get all upset over this you might want to gain some knowledge as to just how dangerous knives can be. You don't have to be carrying a machete order to be dangerous.

It is utter foolishness and ignorance to claim these officer were not in danger.

 

[rjs330]

Amen. Too many Christians have their heads in this world more than in the next. I know they are well-meaning, but it's not gonna phase me in the least, nor is it somehow going to defeat the kingdom of God, if this country went full-on Communist. When you get right down to it, it's a matter of how much do people trust in the power of God in any and every situation.

Nothing stops me from fulfilling my calling. Nothing. So the rest becomes like a spectator sport. I just hate to see things escalate again so easily when I think it could have been prevented with a little more wisdom.

And those that are rioting can stop their evil acts. The cops are not at fault or reaponsible in any fashion. The ignorance of people is astounding.

 

[rjs330]

I am telling you very HONESTLY what I would have done under the circumstance. For one thing I am not afraid to die, for another that jelly roll looks like he couldn't have fought his way out of a paper bag if he had to.

Believe what you want.

And as stated they apparently followed procedure. I hope they enjoy the outcome.

What precisely would you have done? You claimed to have better judgement what exactly would you have done in this encounter?

When approached by a person with a knife who is failing to obey your commands what would you have done?

And if he charges you what would you have done?

Are you aware that. 30% of officers that are attacked by a knife die?

You have no idea what you are talking about. And neither does anyone else who criticizes the police in this situation.

What happens if the guy turns and attacks a bystander or family member?

For once I wish people who think like you went through a scenario just like this and see just how well you act. You would either be dead or maimed or some other citizens would be.

 

[MattMooradian]

if somebody smashed my home and killed my cat or any member of my family,.. I would be very upset.

I would be very upset, also. But, I hope I do not turn to violence in an effort to stop them.

 

[Hidden In Him]

It is utter foolishness and ignorance to claim these officer were not in danger.

I didn't say they weren't, and statements like this make it apparent you are not reading my posts.

What precisely would you have done?

If you were reading my posts you would know already. You are not. Why should I respond when you won't read this either?

Good question?

 

[rjs330]

I didn't say they weren't, and statements like this make it apparent you are not reading my posts.


If you were reading my posts you would know already. You are not. Why should I respond when you won't read this either?

Good question?

I went back and didn't see any specifics. You said you would use better judgement. What does that mean in action? Maybe you could point to the post where you said what you would have done exactly. Just give me a post number and I will read it. I promise.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I went back and didn't see any specifics. You said you would use better judgement. What does that mean in action? Maybe you could point to the post where you said what you would have done exactly. Just give me a post number and I will read it. I promise.

Part of my answers were in responses to others, but don't worry about it. There is enough divisiveness on this forum already as it is.

Maybe part of my reaction was more emotional than it should have been to begin with. I know what is coming, and I take the view that the death of one or two should be weighed against the potential deaths of hundreds.

But life goes on.

No hard feelings.

God bless,
Hidden

 

[Ziggy]

 

[jaybird]

Ok...
After reading the story,
The parents got their house back. All they needed to do was kick out their 22 year old son who was selling heroin out of his parents house.

And actually it's a kindness that was done. Most home invasions are over narcotics. Drug dealers are usually armed because of the volume of home invasions for money and drugs.

Dad was always working 6&7 days per week and somehow mom was not aware?

How would she react to a home invasion?

This story may have been new to the national scene but I'm sure that it's not new to the area...but the son persisted in selling drugs out of the home. He didn't care about home invasions or his parents losing their home.

AND
They raised the son.

they didnt sell drugs, i think thats the one key element. but maybe i dont know because i dont kow that local area. but i do know my local area, my neighbors were taken to jail when their nephew was caught buying crystal meth material. they were taking care of the nephew because his parents were never there and he had nowhere to go. the nephew was also retarded. since he was retarded the local drug dealer talked him in to riding to walmart and getting the drug making material, they got caught, my neighbors went to jail. they spent 24 hours in jail, and faced prison charges, or they could plead guilty and get a fine (and maybe probation?) they got a 10 thousand dollar fine, they dont make a lot of money so they will be paying on this the rest of their life.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Good dude. Looks like he lost some teeth to get that footage, and hasn't been dissuaded from still reporting on it.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I went back and didn't see any specifics. You said you would use better judgement. What does that mean in action? Maybe you could point to the post where you said what you would have done exactly. Just give me a post number and I will read it. I promise.

RJS, watch 23:46 thru 24:46 in the above video. This is more of why I was telling you I am not particularly impressed with the Philly P.D. I am not against police in general, and I don't see how you would get that from reading Post #28. But poorly funded and poorly led Departments don't give me a lot of reason to defend them.

If you think I have no right to complain, that's your right to say so.

 

[Nancy]

It's a spirit. The whole thing is a spiritual set up, in fact.

Black guy with mental problems wielding a knife + inept Philadelphia PD that is ill-equipped to deal with mentally unstable people without lighting them up + one more black man dying on the streets of a major U.S. city, caught on tape = Rioting resumes.

I believe the same spirits that were inciting this mess a few months ago left off on it until around election time because it might have effected the 2020 outcome too much. Now that the election is almost here, it will likely explode again, this time in earnest - the worst rioting this country has ever seen is coming in the next few months, if I'm reading things right.

I agree HIH,
We ain't seen nuthin yet! And let us not be so naive to think that these evil spirits are not using politicians like puppets. Much of the inciting is being paid for, IMHO.
There is no "brotherly love" other than those who are in Christ. We know who the rest belong to.
And, since it is now "flu season", it will be even that much more unsettling

 

[Hidden In Him]

There is no "brotherly love" other than those who are in Christ.

This right here is a good line, LoL.

It would appear Philadelphia is proving that to be true : )

 

[rjs330]

Part of my answers were in responses to others, but don't worry about it. There is enough divisiveness on this forum already as it is.

Maybe part of my reaction was more emotional than it should have been to begin with. I know what is coming, and I take the view that the death of one or two should be weighed against the potential deaths of hundreds.

But life goes on.

No hard feelings.

God bless,
Hidden

Sounds good.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Sounds good.

You sound like you might be a cop yourself, btw, and if so my apologies if I sounded judgmental. I'm very pro-cop actually. But I may be a bit spoiled where I am around here. They run a good operation here in South Louisiana, so things sort of stand out by comparison.

But God bless, and good talking to you.

 

[rjs330]

RJS, watch 23:46 thru 24:46 in the above video. This is more of why I was telling you I am not particularly impressed with the Philly P.D. I am not against police in general, and I don't see how you would get that from reading Post #28. But poorly funded and poorly led Departments don't give me a lot of reason to defend them.

If you think I have no right to complain, that's your right to say so.

It seems poorly led may be some of the issue here. Just like the Portland and Seattle situations, where leftist politicians and appointees tell the cops what to do.

You can see earlier in the video where the cops are assaulted, and verbally attacked and hindered, but don't react inappropriately. Good folks if you ask me.

And while those cops going into the store to get the looters out, may not have acted the best, they probably had been running all night and been dealing with things and high anxiety situations all night. I have a tendency to cut them a little slack due to what they have faced. And I doubt very much that if you had been in their shoes and been in their position you would have reacted much differently. Well you probably wouldn't have been cursing at people. Me neither.

 

[Hidden In Him]

It seems poorly led may be some of the issue here. Just like the Portland and Seattle situations, where leftist politicians and appointees tell the cops what to do.

That's what I was seeing.

You can see earlier in the video where the cops are assaulted, and verbally attacked and hindered, but don't react inappropriately. Good folks if you ask me.

Yes. I'm sure it's like anywhere else; some good, some decent, some not so great.

And while those cops going into the store to get the looters out, may not have acted the best, they probably had been running all night and been dealing with things and high anxiety situations all night. I have a tendency to cut them a little slack due to what they have faced. And I doubt very much that if you had been in their shoes and been in their position you would have reacted much differently. Well you probably wouldn't have been cursing at people. Me neither.

I thought about the stress. That seemed really out of character. And you may be right, because they don't look like they are walking into a live situation with potentially armed perpetrators. They looked like they were walking to a meeting, Lol.

Good points, probably not fair to judge without knowing how much of a night they had already been through.

I'm guessing cops in major cities may be getting really fatigued in the near future. Not a job I would want.