Clouds types and their meanings

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Foreigner

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Interesting.

Any Scripture or documentation to support that opinion Mr. Rosenberger?

I have had a few people say similar things in the past, but when asked for specific support of that stance they can provide nothing of substance.

Perhaps you will be different.
 

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I wonder if this is just a way of explaining so men can understand...


Like, "Heaven's way up there ^. " That's how I've always looked at it. Point to the clouds for heaven and point to the ground for hell.
 

lawrance

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I wonder if this is just a way of explaining so men can understand...


Like, "Heaven's way up there ^. " That's how I've always looked at it. Point to the clouds for heaven and point to the ground for hell.


Yes it's just like that.
But their is a Spiritual comprehension.
 

lawrance

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I think that when we are educated in our schools we tend to read things are just black and white and anyone who deviates some how from it is just stupid.
I have lived with and talked with the aboriginal people years ago that were never educated in our schools so when we talk with them we are on a different wave length, it's like trying to tune in on a radio frequency and you can't pick up clearly what is being really said.
The School educated people thinks the abo is a idiot and guess what the abo thinks the so called educated is a idiot to. Haha !
So i found that the abos would not be bothered to really talk to other outsiders because there was no point in trying to.

I seen a American Indian Chief that came to Australia on TV and he started talking about his culture and i was really interested in what he had to say but the TV show compare was rude as and just cut him off and did not want him to talk freely, but only to make the Chief look like a dumb stereotype Indian we know from TV shows.

Just as like in today's world if someone talks about Jesus or religion, and we have this socialist type person screaming blue murder, if you have the audacity to bring the subject up as they think it's all just idiotic stupid nonsense. they want to eradicate the whole thing entirely.

As they have their own bible that they have made up with their little narrow minded childish political correctness and simpleton racial prejudice doctrines that only the gullible simpleton could blindly swallow.
and if you don't follow them to the letter they will stand over you like a mongrel Dog.
And it's like if i say but bro this is not good for these people, they just say they have there owe own plains for them, as if they know best.
If you oppose them they will wave their prejudice or racist slandering spiel at you at the drop of a hat. but the problem is that the average person is so shallow they can't comprehend and don't really care anyway. but only like to be seen as saying the right thing to suit the trend at the time.
 

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I think that when we are educated in our schools we tend to read things are just black and white and anyone who deviates some how from it is just stupid.
I have lived with and talked with the aboriginal people years ago that were never educated in our schools so when we talk with them we are on a different wave length, it's like trying to tune in on a radio frequency and you can't pick up clearly what is being really said.
The School educated people thinks the abo is a idiot and guess what the abo thinks the so called educated is a idiot to. Haha !
So i found that the abos would not be bothered to really talk to other outsiders because there was no point in trying to.

I seen a American Indian Chief that came to Australia on TV and he started talking about his culture and i was really interested in what he had to say but the TV show compare was rude as and just cut him off and did not want him to talk freely, but only to make the Chief look like a dumb stereotype Indian we know from TV shows.

Just as like in today's world if someone talks about Jesus or religion, and we have this socialist type person screaming blue murder, if you have the audacity to bring the subject up as they think it's all just idiotic stupid nonsense. they want to eradicate the whole thing entirely.

As they have their own bible that they have made up with their little narrow minded childish political correctness and simpleton racial prejudice doctrines that only the gullible simpleton could blindly swallow.
and if you don't follow them to the letter they will stand over you like a mongrel Dog.
And it's like if i say but bro this is not good for these people, they just say they have there owe own plains for them, as if they know best.
If you oppose them they will wave their prejudice or racist slandering spiel at you at the drop of a hat. but the problem is that the average person is so shallow they can't comprehend and don't really care anyway. but only like to be seen as saying the right thing to suit the trend at the time.

I think you are fussing about things without identifying their proper frame of reference.

If you want to discuss Jewish traditional and religious connotations of clouds, then do so.
If you want to discuss politics with regard to clouds (what is that all about - the debate over a new fighter jet for the Air Force?), then define the scope.
If you want to discuss theology then preface your assertion with an ideology.
If you want to discuss the science of meteorology, then identify that discussion.
If you want to discuss the weekend weather girl on channel 13 in Orlando, then we can do that too (her name is Janelle Jordan - a real dish).

WHY do you accuse people of ignorance when you refuse to define the issue?
Are you just in it to belittle people or are you trying to prove how clever you are?
 

aspen

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I thought Robbie already started a thread about nothing....
 

lawrance

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I think you are fussing about things without identifying their proper frame of reference.

If you want to discuss Jewish traditional and religious connotations of clouds, then do so.
If you want to discuss politics with regard to clouds (what is that all about - the debate over a new fighter jet for the Air Force?), then define the scope.
If you want to discuss theology then preface your assertion with an ideology.
If you want to discuss the science of meteorology, then identify that discussion.
If you want to discuss the weekend weather girl on channel 13 in Orlando, then we can do that too (her name is Janelle Jordan - a real dish).

WHY do you accuse people of ignorance when you refuse to define the issue?
Are you just in it to belittle people or are you trying to prove how clever you are?


I thought it just went with out saying.
And i am not trying to prove anything.
The interpretation of Biblical Clouds are as so.
How could anyone think that someone would be standing on a cloud.
Or that the Bible is on about meteorology or science.
Politics and Christianity are not the same but they should have foundations that correlate in Christ.
 

lawrance

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I thought Robbie already started a thread about nothing....


A typical poor Como like comment that sees everything in black and white, shallow and short sighted in lacking any real Soul.
Sorry but true is it not trembling.
Why bother to contribute to say nil.
 

aspen

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A typical poor Como like comment that sees everything in black and white, shallow and short sighted in lacking any real Soul.
Sorry but true is it not trembling.
Why bother to contribute to say nil.

Sorry, I thought this was the perfect place to say nothing.

Thanks for the name-calling; it really spices up your post.
 

lawrance

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I'm sorry. I still don't understand.

But, now that you mention this "vehicle of God's presence". Aren't we the "vehicle" now? Didn't God give us His Spirit? Maybe some of us as Christians don't look for God to show up in anything but peoples hearts.

To me seeing things like clouds or reading about them are evidence of God not so much as something God uses to "show up".

Intelligence is a subjective term and in salvation terms is not of much value. Wisdom is something that only comes from God's teachings and we are taught by the Holy Spirit who "brings us to all truth".

With all due respect, maybe the Jews are still looking for God in ways He doesn't manifest Himself anymore.


The poor Jews are looking in the wrong place God manifest himself in Christ Jesus for all of us.

Show up ? it's his presence. the Cloud is a picture of his presence 'in Glory'.