Clueless liberals? Would you feel more comfortable with a radical Islamist or a MAGA supporter?

[ScottA]

A radical muslim would more readily accept Christ, whereas the fake Christian MAGA will be the first ones to gladly turn you in for not worshiping their savior, Trump.

Your hatred is showing.

 

[ScottA]

True of Jews as well. Is that what you intend?

Islam is not the foundation upon which Christianity stands, Israel is. Which doesn't make any perfect--neither Islamist, nor Jew, or Christian.

But we who are Christ's know who went before us and are grateful is spite of their faults. For we know that without Christ we too are imperfect. But He Himself said that we would be perfect as "our Father in heaven is perfect." Then He paid the price and made it so "for those who love Him according to His purpose."

 

[Button]

A better question to ask would be:

Do you mostly align with the idea of "Make America Great Again", or "Death to America?"​

Well done.
I'd love to hear those answers.

 

[Button]

Your hatred is showing.

Yes. With a dark dash of blasphemy.

 

[Armour of God]

This is an important point. Not all MAGA supporters are extremists. Not all Muslims are extremists.

The extremists who attacked our Capitol on Jan 6 are not typical of Trump supporters. Al-Qaeda is not typical of Muslims. There are those who do support extremists like these. But we shouldn't label every one of them as traitors or religious fanatics.

We may not agree on the theory of evolution but we do agree on this

God bless

 

[shepherdsword]

I don't see a lot of difference;

You don't see a difference between people who want to promote a political agenda and those that want to murder you because you don't follow their religious agenda?

a radical Islamist would have more trouble in America, abusing the law the way MAGA has done this year. Religious fanaticism is pretty much the same in all religions. And the abuse of state power is pretty much the same.

if by abuse of state power, you mean Iran murdering protestors in the street by the thousands then I agree.

On the other hand, MAGA has killed far fewer protestors than Iranian islamists have. And MAGA fanatics have done some mass killings, but nothing remotely like 9/11. Since there are MAGA people who do respect the law, just as most American Muslims do, that's a wash.

I guess, if I had to chose, it would be MAGA.

Please present your justification for claiming Maga fanatics have been engaged in mass killings.

 

[The Barbarian]

You don't see a difference between people who want to promote a political agenda and those that want to murder you because you don't follow their religious agenda?

Trump's people don't actually want to murder us for not following their agenda; they just want to take away our freedoms to object. And it's not really a religious agenda; that's just to bring along the religious extremists.

But as we've seen in Minneapolis, they are willing to kill to bring us under their control.

if by abuse of state power, you mean Iran murdering protestors in the street by the thousands then I agree.

On the other hand, MAGA has killed far fewer protestors than Iranian islamists have; the body count of murdered protestors in Iran is thousands of times that of the Trump administration. But the courts are still working to some degree and that has had an effect.

Please present your justification for claiming Maga fanatics have been engaged in mass killings.

I'm pointing out that they haven't yet resorted to that; so far, it's just a few here and there.

 

[The Barbarian]

I'm not surprised the RCC accept the tenets of Islam. The RCC vacated the teachings of Christ long ago.
They're not of Christ.

Jesus said the world would hate us. We're used to it.

 

[The Barbarian]

Islam is not the foundation upon which Christianity stands, Israel is. Which doesn't make any perfect--neither Islamist, nor Jew, or Christian.

But we who are Christ's know who went before us and are grateful is spite of their faults. For we know that without Christ we too are imperfect. But He Himself said that we would be perfect as "our Father in heaven is perfect." Then He paid the price and made it so "for those who love Him according to His purpose."

The three main Abrahamic religions all share a love of the Father. Jews and Muslims do not accept that Jesus is God. This is what Christians address when they say that they don't deny anything true and holy in other faiths.

 

[The Barbarian]

Who said anything about hating Muslims or Jews?

I have dear friends that were raised as Muslims. But while I love them, I cannot love Islam. And I pray for them to come to know Jesus eventually.

According to God, when the King comes to separate the sheep and the goats, there will be those who are surprised that they are saved. These will be those who while not Christian, did His will.

Matthew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

 

[TLHKAJ]

According to God, when the King comes to separate the sheep and the goats, there will be those who are surprised that they are saved. These will be those who while not Christian, did His will.

Matthew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

No one will enter the kingdom of God without coming through the door (Jesus Christ). Thieves and robbers will not enter in. Scripture is clear that salvation is not by works ...it is by grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.

 

[ScottA]

The three main Abrahamic religions all share a love of the Father. Jews and Muslims do not accept that Jesus is God. This is what Christians address when they say that they don't deny anything true and holy in other faiths.

That much is good, but we ought not condone any disconnect from the One greater path forged by Christ since the beginning and leading to the end. It is not ones beginning, but ones end, that fines one approved by God. Even many who begin with Christ will not finish with Him, but will stray (even unknowingly) never to return. Whether Islamic, or Jew, or would-be Christian, many will say "Lord, Lord" but perish.

But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. John 4:23​

 

[TLHKAJ]

Your hatred is showing.

I spoke the truth. Call it whatever makes you feel good. The question was who would I trust more. I've never been hurt by a Muslim. I've been hurt by MAGA folks (IRL). Every MAGA I know is hateful, spiteful, and willfully following a man who is a criminal, a rapist, a murderer, and lawless. My answer was and is honest.

If you saw me in danger and you were nearby ....would you attempt to step in if you could?

 

[The Barbarian]

That much is good, but we ought not condone any disconnect from the One greater path forged by Christ since the beginning and leading to the end. It is not ones beginning, but ones end, that fines one approved by God. Even many who begin with Christ will not finish with Him, but will stray (even unknowingly) never to return. Whether Islamic, or Jew, or would-be Christian, many will say "Lord, Lord" but perish.

Good point. It's carrying out God's will that matters, not who professes to do so;
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

 

[The Barbarian]

Scripture is clear that salvation is not by works ...

Matthew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Jesus seems to think it matters.

 

[Debp]

. I've never been hurt by a Muslim. I've been hurt by MAGA folks (IRL). Every MAGA I know is hateful, spiteful

Abby Joy I know what State you live in as you told me that a long time ago. You also told me about your family and your dear son Matthew. Of course I won't mention your State. But I know your area of the country can sometimes be quite racist...so perhaps that's why you run into hateful MAGA folks?

I know others that voted for President Trump and they are loving Christians...not hateful. Actually one of them lives in your State.

 

[shepherdsword]

I spoke the truth. Call it whatever makes you feel good. The question was who would I trust more. I've never been hurt by a Muslim. I've been hurt by MAGA folks (IRL). Every MAGA I know is hateful, spiteful, and willfully following a man who is a criminal, a rapist, a murderer, and lawless. My answer was and is honest.

If you saw me in danger and you were nearby ....would you attempt to step in if you could?

 

[The Barbarian]

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MAGA Pedophile List: The Moral Hypocrisy of the “Family Values” Republican Party

Republican figures, many of them opponents of LGBTQ rights and self-styled guardians against grooming, have committed crimes against children.

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Which doesn't mean that all MAGA are pedophiles. But from the police reports, we could make that assumption.

 

[The Barbarian]

I know others that voted for President Trump and they are loving Christians...not hateful. Actually one of them lives in your State.

Yes. Sometimes, people are just mean because they are mean, and it has nothing to do with their political positions. Wouldn't it be great if we could just take everyone on their own merits?

 

[shepherdsword]

MAGA Pedophile List: The Moral Hypocrisy of the “Family Values” Republican Party

Republican figures, many of them opponents of LGBTQ rights and self-styled guardians against grooming, have committed crimes against children.

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Which doesn't mean that all MAGA are pedophiles. But from the police reports, we could make that assumption.

By what police reports could you make an assumption that all MAGA are pedophiles? Isn't that a bit like saying all liberals are baby killing transgender homosexuals?