Collapse of the twin towers in 2001. An engineering perspective

[Jay Ross]

My dear brother in Christ

I never slandered you.
I never resorted to calling you names.

You continued to provoke me with repeated insults. And the old me would have responded with insults.

But praise be to God because with the Holy Spirit endowed in me I have been able to maintain respect and decorum in the face of personal attack.

Glory be to God

AoG, your examples of buildings that have caught fire not collapsing does not support your argument at all. None of those buildings that you showed pictures of showed the energy density of the fire where the planes penetrated the buildings. Your pictures showed that the fire was consuming the whole building whereas in the Twin Towers event the fire was confined to a small number of floors where the available energy density was much higher than the pictures samples that you provided. In other words, you were not providing pictures of similar fires. Which means that your justification for your tower collapsing theory is suspect.

When you can provide a theory which explains all of the unfolding events in a linear fashion, then perhaps others will begin to accept your "unbiased" description.

Goodbye

 

[Debp]

Why do you suppose over 3,600 architects and engineers officially reject the mainstream explanation and wanted a real investigation?

I don't know. Maybe they believe in conspiracies.

AoG, your examples of buildings that have caught fire not collapsing does not support your argument at all. None of those buildings that you showed pictures of showed the energy density of the fire where the planes penetrated the buildings. Your pictures showed that the fire was consuming the whole building whereas in the Twin Towers event the fire was confined to a small number of floors where the available energy density was much higher than the pictures samples that you provided. In other words, you were not providing pictures of similar fires. Which means that your justification for your tower collapsing theory is suspect.

Also those huge airplanes weigh alot and they crashed into the buildings with a lot of force.

 

[Debp]

Controlled demolition is discussed in the first five minutes in this.

 

[JimKnox]

I wonder how they found two passports at two different scenes that just so happened to belong to the terrorist.

Golly molly!
I wonder how they even get one? How naive of you.

 

[CrowCross]

Golly molly!
I wonder how they even get one? How naive of you.

Considering passports can survive such a fiery disaster I would image they found a couple hundred passports scattered all over the different 911 scenes.

 

[Wrangler]

@Wrangler if you don't like my posts you don't have to read them.

Your posts are insightful. Thx.

 

[Wrangler]

No wonder there are conspiracy theories.

?

Or it's better that he does not open his mouth on trial.

Yup

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know. Maybe they believe in conspiracies.



Also those huge airplanes weigh alot and they crashed into the buildings with a lot of force.

On both sides of this equation their are facts and etc .
But how long will the sheep sit and trust govt all mighty or simply cling to their politician .
One thing i seen BIG TIME with this generation is
IT IS fast to TRUST ITS SIDE like the blind leads the blind .
I saw this massively with covid and the vaccine ,
BUT WORSE and far worse than that
I SAW how fast a generation AND W ORSE even many in christendom
fell in love with the love of a harlot and over time NO matter which side they sit under
WHETHER LE FT or RIGHT
whether progressive liberal or TRUMP ,
THEY ARE IN LOVE with the love of a harlot and have been led into distrust IN EVEN THE VERY WORDS OF GOD
as at most they pick and choose whatever their side twisted unto them as truth .
AND i see a whopper of all lies that this so called love of a harlot
has not only led the false relgoins too , but even many in christendom
The all inclusive love god and its plan for global peace .
AND to the left the SAME LIE has b een sold but done so under the guise of PRO PALESTINE
and to the right evangelical camp it has been , THE SAME LIE , sold as PRO israel .
BUT ITS ALL OF IT A LIE and its all of it of many anti christs for global peace which will be enforced
upon this nation and all nations by which each nation will beleive IS AI that is under cont rol of sitting king .
WHEN IT WAS NEVER UNDER THE CONTROL , NOR was it prepared for the nations
BUT ONLY FOR THE BEAST . ITS GLOBAL my friend and SO IS ITS LIE that it now calls love .
YE cannot mix or blend darkness with light
YE cannot mix or blend the earthen with the heavenly
YE cannot truly trust in men and GOD . OH ITS ONE OR THE OTHER .
and c ursed is the one whose hopes b e in men . THEY aint gonna make it debp . THEY AINT gonna make it .

 

[Marvelloustime]

On both sides of this equation their are facts and etc .
But how long will the sheep sit and trust govt all mighty or simply cling to their politician .
One thing i seen BIG TIME with this generation is
IT IS fast to TRUST ITS SIDE like the blind leads the blind .
I saw this massively with covid and the vaccine ,
BUT WORSE and far worse than that
I SAW how fast a generation AND W ORSE even many in christendom
fell in love with the love of a harlot and over time NO matter which side they sit under
WHETHER LE FT or RIGHT
whether progressive liberal or TRUMP ,
THEY ARE IN LOVE with the love of a harlot and have been led into distrust IN EVEN THE VERY WORDS OF GOD
as at most they pick and choose whatever their side twisted unto them as truth .
AND i see a whopper of all lies that this so called love of a harlot
has not only led the false relgoins too , but even many in christendom
The all inclusive love god and its plan for global peace .
AND to the left the SAME LIE has b een sold but done so under the guise of PRO PALESTINE
and to the right evangelical camp it has been , THE SAME LIE , sold as PRO israel .
BUT ITS ALL OF IT A LIE and its all of it of many anti christs for global peace which will be enforced
upon this nation and all nations by which each nation will beleive IS AI that is under cont rol of sitting king .
WHEN IT WAS NEVER UNDER THE CONTROL , NOR was it prepared for the nations
BUT ONLY FOR THE BEAST . ITS GLOBAL my friend and SO IS ITS LIE that it now calls love .
YE cannot mix or blend darkness with light
YE cannot mix or blend the earthen with the heavenly
YE cannot truly trust in men and GOD . OH ITS ONE OR THE OTHER .
and c ursed is the one whose hopes b e in men . THEY aint gonna make it debp . THEY AINT gonna make it .

@amigo de christo

 

[Jay Ross]

Controlled demolition is discussed in the first five minutes in this.

Thank you for taking the time to find this video which provided a very considered understanding of how the Twin Towers collapsed.

Shalom

 

[JimKnox]

Controlled demolition is discussed in the first five minutes in this.

Thanks but the link is busted

 

[Jay Ross]

Thanks but the link is busted

The link worked for me in Australia even from your post above with the link in the "Quote" section of your post

 

[Armour of God]

AoG, your examples of buildings that have caught fire not collapsing does not support your argument at all. None of those buildings that you showed pictures of showed the energy density of the fire where the planes penetrated the buildings. Your pictures showed that the fire was consuming the whole building whereas in the Twin Towers event the fire was confined to a small number of floors where the available energy density was much higher than the pictures samples that you provided. In other words, you were not providing pictures of similar fires. Which means that your justification for your tower collapsing theory is suspect.

The point is that buildings have had much larger fires than that of the towers. Buildings fully engulfed in flames. Yet they didn't collapse.

The fact that the fire was confined is exactly why it would not have come down all at once in a free fall, as only the steel in that area would of been heat effected.

When one side of a building gets damaged badly it tips over following the path of least resistance

Examples


Can you provide an example of another building collapsing at gravitational acceleration?

When you can provide a theory which explains all of the unfolding events in a linear fashion, then perhaps others will begin to accept your "unbiased" description.

Actually I've already done that and it has been confirmed by many other architects and engineers.
Our evaluation was totally unbiased without any influence from politics or media



Such opposition is unheard of in engineering.

Question to you.
Did you obtain information about the towers and did the mathematics regarding the physics of the collapse?

 

[JimKnox]

The link worked for me in Australia even from your post above with the link in the "Quote" section of your post

It's weird. I couldn't get it to work. So I made that post. As soon as it posted THERE IT WAS!
So I clinked on it.

 

[Armour of God]

I don't know. Maybe they believe in conspiracies

To label of of us all conspiracy theorists or ignorant is a poor excuse.
These are architects and engineers.
Professionals. Their case should be heard objectively instead of being dismissed as conspiracy theorists or ignorant.
They don't do conspiracies they do engineering.

Their findings are independent. Unbiased.
There wouldn't be so many professionals objecting if there wasn't something wrong.
So much opposition is unheard of in engineering

Conspiracy had nothing to do with our investigation at school. We weren't influenced by media or politics. We obtained information on the towers, we did the engineering, we did the physics and our conclusion was unanimous between students and professors alike.

Then our conclusion was confirmed by more and more engineers coming out with the same conclusion we did.
Based on physics.
Based on engineering.

In the years that followed I spent hours watching documentaries and listening to the opposing arguments.

The least you could do is be objective and listen to the opposing engineers and their case instead of just believing the mainstream.

 

[Debp]

Thank you for taking the time to find this video which provided a very considered understanding of how the Twin Towers collapsed.

Shalom

Yes it was a good video and she told how many experts were involved in the investigation and what they reviewed.

 

[Armour of God]

Yes it was a good video and she told how many experts were involved in the investigation and what they reviewed.

You watch the videos that you want to hear but not the opposing arguments.
That's called confirmation bias.

I've objectively listened to both sides of the argument

 

[Wrangler]

es it was a good video and she told how many experts were involved

The devil said the son of God dying on a cross to take away the sins of the world is a conspiracy theory. Experts agree.

JESUS: I praise You, Father—Lord of heaven and earth. You have revealed Your truths to the lowly and the ignorant, the children and the crippled, the lame and the mute. You have hidden wisdom from those who pride themselves on being so wise and learned. Matthew 11:25

 

[Ziggy]

I'm going to put this here for later to watch.
I thought Building 7 was interesting for sure.
And knowing that ?Silverstien? had just taken out an insurance policy a couple months back against terrorist attacks on the twin towers, I thought was a little coincidental.
And I don't believe in coincidences.
But anyways, it's a long one.
Get your popcorn
Hugs

You have to watch it on You Tube so just follow the Link

 

[Armour of God]

The devil said the son of God dying on a cross to take away the sins of the world is a conspiracy theory. Experts agree.

JESUS: I praise You, Father—Lord of heaven and earth. You have revealed Your truths to the lowly and the ignorant, the children and the crippled, the lame and the mute. You have hidden wisdom from those who pride themselves on being so wise and learned. Matthew 11:25

Some people just believe the mainstream and won't even listen to the opposing experts

Others have a heavy political alignment and refuse to believe they can do anything wrong.

But 3 things prove to me it was a demo job
1 - The physics tells us it was impossible for those buildings to free fall. That was the major reason for our conclusion in university at the time.
2 - Molten metal in the wreckage.
Confirmed our conclusion
3 - Thermite in the wreckage.
Confirmed our conclusion
There is more evidence but those 3 are the main ones for me.
There is no excuse for them