Come Out Of Her My People! Out Of Who Or What?

[whirlwind]

Jeremiah 7:2 "Stand in the gate of the LORD'S HOUSE, and proclaim there this word, and say, "HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD.

In looking at this spiritually, as we should...The "Lord's house" is us.

We are the wood and nails and stone that make up His building. We are part of the Temple of the Lord. We are to HEAR His Word but that isn't what is going on today.

Instead it is....​

7:4 Trust ye not in LYING WORDS, saying, "The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.'

Lying words fill His house. False doctrine. What the above verse says to me is....many of us are sitting around discussing the temple, the church, the synagogue, the blah, blah, blah. In other words, instead of speaking and hearing His Words there is more discussion about RELIGION....The temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord! He isn't happy about this. He then continues explaining what is going on in the "house of the LORD" and said...​

7:11 In this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

We shouldn't think this is only about the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The house is called by His name....Christ/Christian!​

Mark 11:17 And He taught, saying unto them, "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.'

Who were they that did this and what are they stealing?

11:15-16 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.Revelation 13:17 And that no man might BUY OR SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.God's children are being bought and sold by the teachers of false doctrine and we are told who they work for as they have the number of his name. As Christ demonstrated...He will again "cast out" those that "buy and sell" the souls of His sheep. The buying and selling of end times is not about purchasing items...it is about false teaching. It is about His children being in His house and being part of His house, and instead of speaking, teaching and hearing the Words of the Lord it is instead about...the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord. It is about religion and the various denominations and what men say and write. Should not our thoughts be about his Word after all it is He that teaches us...not man and not the building for after all, Christianity is not a religion but is a way of life:

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, Which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me:14:26 But the Comforter, Which is the Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in My name, HE SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.​

He testifies to us, He teaches us all things, He comes to us....in the volume of the Book, not in a building or through the words of man.

Revelation 18:3-4 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies." And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.​

 

[savedbygrace57]

QUOTE (whirlwind @ Mar 20 2009, 12:07 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71088
Jeremiah 7:2 "Stand in the gate of the LORD'S HOUSE, and proclaim there this word, and say, "HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD.

In looking at this spiritually, as we should...The "Lord's house" is us.

We are the wood and nails and stone that make up His building. We are part of the Temple of the Lord. We are to HEAR His Word but that isn't what is going on today.

Instead it is....​

7:4 Trust ye not in LYING WORDS, saying, "The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.'

Lying words fill His house. False doctrine. What the above verse says to me is....many of us are sitting around discussing the temple, the church, the synagogue, the blah, blah, blah. In other words, instead of speaking and hearing His Words there is more discussion about RELIGION....The temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord! He isn't happy about this. He then continues explaining what is going on in the "house of the LORD" and said...​

7:11 In this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

We shouldn't think this is only about the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The house is called by His name....Christ/Christian!​

Mark 11:17 And He taught, saying unto them, "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.'

Who were they that did this and what are they stealing?

11:15-16 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.Revelation 13:17 And that no man might BUY OR SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.God's children are being bought and sold by the teachers of false doctrine and we are told who they work for as they have the number of his name. As Christ demonstrated...He will again "cast out" those that "buy and sell" the souls of His sheep. The buying and selling of end times is not about purchasing items...it is about false teaching. It is about His children being in His house and being part of His house, and instead of speaking, teaching and hearing the Words of the Lord it is instead about...the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord. It is about religion and the various denominations and what men say and write. Should not our thoughts be about his Word after all it is He that teaches us...not man and not the building for after all, Christianity is not a religion but is a way of life:

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, Which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me:14:26 But the Comforter, Which is the Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in My name, HE SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.​

He testifies to us, He teaches us all things, He comes to us....in the volume of the Book, not in a building or through the words of man.

Revelation 18:3-4 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies." And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.​

come out of the whore church of today, which is no more than the world..

 

[mjrhealth]

QUOTE (whirlwind @ Mar 21 2009, 03:07 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71088
[He testifies to us, He teaches us all things, He comes to us....in the volume of the Book, not in a building or through the words of man.

Actually He comes to us through the Holy spirit, who teaches us and leds us into all the truth. Everything else is more or less spot on,and it is the" religious spirirt" HE is calling us out of, just like HE was with the Pharrisess who wouldnt listen because they loved it that way.. But its a sad fact that spirit has gone so deep and he makes people so comfortable that they wont leave.God bless

 

[Christina]

QUOTE (savedbygrace57 @ Mar 20 2009, 10:53 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71097
come out of the whore church of today, which is no more than the world..
Its the other way around Whirlwind is right but I fear you will have to learn the hard way

 

[thisistheendtimes]

Yes, we should do as in Jeremiah 7:2 and "HEAR His voice" (John 10:27) instead of simply READ what we regard to be His will/desires. Our intentions should be to CARE about His WILL/wishes/wants, likes and dislikes instead of only have regard for what He would "COMMAND".Ephesians 2:15"by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances".There will be a "new heaven and a new earth",...the present one should be INNER ("Be transformed by the renewal of your MIND", Romans 12:2), but we have been taught to "follow procedures"/protocol (rituals, perform self works, give money, study to gain intellectual superiority, etc.,...increasing pride) and "take the kingdom BY FORCE" (as was done by the Pharisees)...Matthew 11:12"From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and men of violence take it by force". The Lord's "house" is commonly called "by His name" (as it was first called in Antioch)...Acts 11:26"and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christians". ...but Jesus devotion was originally called "THE WAY"...Acts 24:22 "But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way".In John 14:6, Jesus said "I am THE WAY,...".666 is not the number of a NEW CREATION, it is the number of THE SIXTH DAY creation (MAN) attempting to claim some responsibility for the 3 spiritual manifestations (creation, salvation, spirit) of God. After we have come to know Jesus and our love has become perfect (1 John 4:18) so that we love God with every fiber of our being (leaving no room for fear of Him, Mark 12:30) and have been "trained" in righteous self discipline for repentance...2 Timothy 3:16"All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness"....then we can move on to develop a more mature relationship with Jesus...Hebrews 6:1"Therefore we must leave..."....the INTRODUCTORY "doctrine of Christ"....then we will learn from The Lord how to have the discerning "sword" of a Godlike spirit...Ephesians 6:17"the sword of the spirit (which is the word of God)".After our training, because human beings were made in the image of our creator, we need only learn to love our heavenly heritage and realize "the anointing", then we will be taught TRUTH...1 John 2:27"the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you".Taking "the kingdom by force" will not produce eternal life (Jesus is our only foundation for that, we should not establish another with "self works", Jesus will not be unjust and overlook that, Hebrews chapter 6). We should trust that Jesus did all of the "works" and REST/relax in Him being confident that His gracious and free gift of salvation requires nothing in return (it is a FREE and GRACIOUS gift, NOT an imperialistic one). JESUS is our sabbath rest (there is no more sabbath "DAY", Luke 6:5). John 6:28"Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?". John 9:3"that the works of God might be made manifest in"....US.In "three days" Jesus became the new worship temple (the outer temple, John 2:19 and 21). We are the inner temple (1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19) and there should be no public prayer or worship with "lips"/sound...Matthew 6:6"But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door".Even baptism does not require man's intervention. "Water" baptism (the water that flowed from Christ's side at the cross was LIVING) and is simply the inner acceptance (indwelling) of God's spirit (Acts 1:5, 1 John 5:6) so that we "neither thirst" (Revelation 7:16)...John 7:38"He who believes in me...".We can be prideful and pursue spiritual fruits that are OF GOD'S SPIRIT (we do not OWN them, but we wish to FORCE them). It is the "fruit of light" that God requires...Ephesians 5:8"walk as children of light".We must learn the GODLY PERSPECTIVE of what love is and love our fellow human being ONLY AS MUCH as we love ourselves (no sane and emotionally stable person on earth has a need or desire to show love to themselves)."God is LOVE" (1 John 4:8, 16)."God is LIGHT" (1 John 1:5)."enter by THE DOOR" (John 10:1) and learn "the depths of God" (1 Corinthians 2:10). All verses are from the RSV.http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/tran...;t=RSV&sf=5

 

[mjrhealth]

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Its the other way around Whirlwind is right but I fear you will have to learn the hard way
Whats the other way round ??

 

[Martin W.]

WHIRLWIND"Come out of her my people" is referring to BABYLON in both Jeremiah 51 and Revelation 18 .Martin W.

 

[WhiteKnuckle]

"Come out of her..." I'm not exactly sure of what "her" or should I say, "who"?. I do know and it's obvious on this forum, There is definately something "new" going on. There is definately a sense of urgency to find the truth, and what the truth is. There's also a seemingly urge to be united and to unite the church under Christ and call her back into a relationship of the Lord and put off the doctrines of men, (as mentioned I believe it was in a post by Christina about the pope and uniting certain churches with the catholic).There's been much much confusion bread and festured. Most of which center around these so called "movements of God". There should be discussion such as the one on this particular post. But, we're forgetting to listen to the Lord! I don't believe the time for speculative study is now. That time is long gone as the hours are short. The truth is known and has been made known to those who God would make them known, and even proven to those who claim not to know.I'm feeling this is now the time to work, and work fervently. The only problem is, What to do. I'm sure all of us are about to find out.

 

[thisistheendtimes]

The first question to be answered is...Where would The Lord's people ("my people") be in the first place? (large portions of "my people")?Large portions would be in the world's religious system ("churchES" PLURAL). The only REAL church is SINGULAR (The Lord's body).Jesus established the real church IN HIS BODY in "three days" (John 2:19 and 21, the OUTER temple). We each are the inner temple (1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19).Many "Christians" are careless and will not "enter the sheepfold" (John 10:1) BY THE DOOR, but "climb in another way" because they refuse to "HEAR His voice" (verse 3). Those who "know His voice" will not "follow a stranger"/hireling."Church"goers rather retain their pride, status and prestige by being accomplished scholars and proper "obeyers" that comply with TEXT instead of actually have a holy character. People who "GO TO" churchES (worship centers/buildings) recieve the approval of PASTORS/MINISTERS, etc. (the approval of MAN) and make no distinction between the bible/Paul/apostles/pastors, etc. and the one who suffered pain on the cross. They also pursue spiritual fruits that belong to GOD'S SPIRIT, but comfortably have none of their own "fruits" (the "fruit of light", Ephesians 5:8).The "strong delusion" has existed all throughout history for all who would rather love the bible instead of LOVE GOD (God is LOVE, not faith, we must have a "faith FOR FAITH", Romans 1:17, Hebrews 11:6).The world's belief system ("churchES", Babylon) exist because the "moneychangers" want us to keep giving them our MONEY, and they teach us to be PRIDEFUL for that reason (so that we keep following THEM, not GOD). Therefore, they have always taught us many misbeliefs and partisan practices about God.So, Jesus says "Come out of her (the seducing temptress "church") my people"....................."I am THE WAY,..." (John 14:6).Acts 24:22"But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way".Acts 11:26"and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christians".The bible has been taught to us as THE FINAL AUTHORITY, but it is NOT an authority at all...Matthew 28:18"And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".If a person's spirit/character is "good and right and true", then their spirit is compatible to GOD'S SPIRIT and the water that is LIVING (the water that poured from Christ's side at the cross) can consecrate (water baptism) the inner temple to the outer temple so that we "neither thirst" (Revelation 7:16, Acts 1:5)...Romans 8:16"it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with OUR SPIRIT that we are children of God".John 7:38"He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, 'Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water.'" Many people have "a little bit of larceny" (carnality) in their heart and have always found it more comfortable/convenient and easier to seek the approval of man instead of be "good and right and true", treating the bible as a "roadmap to heaven" and thinking of God as a repressive tyrant/punisher. This is why the "strong delusion" has been passed down from generation to generation.So, we should take The Lord's advice and..."Come out of her" and live by "the law of liberty" (James 1:25, 2:12, Ephesians 2:15).

 

[mjrhealth]

hi some good posts. The problem we see is that the enemy has taken a sprirtual creation ( our lords church ) and created a physical one, a peverted version just as he peverts and corrupts anything from God, jesus warned us of these things when He spoke to the pharrisees,(Mat 23:2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seatMat 23:3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.(Mat 23:4) For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.(Mat 23:5) But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,(Mat 23:6) And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,(Mat 23:7) And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.(Mat 23:8) But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.(Mat 23:9) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.(Mat 23:10) Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.(Mat 23:11) But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.(Mat 23:12) And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.(Mat 23:13) But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.(Mat 23:14) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.(Mat 23:15) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.This is not what Jesus wanted but its what we give Him. Even after all this the church today is the same as the jewish religion was back then.Just take a read of john 10-1 to 18 There is only one true shepherd that is Jesus all the rest are hirelings, even john got upset early in the piece when people started following people. Ye all the work Jesus did got corrupted very quickly once He was more or less out of the picture.In His love

 

[pia]

QUOTE (savedbygrace57 @ Mar 20 2009, 10:53 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71097
come out of the whore church of today, which is no more than the world..
Its the other way around Whirlwind is right but I fear you will have to learn the hard way

Hello to "endtimes".......How wonderful when truth is so elegantly written.Bless you for having the patience. Thank you.Love Pia