Conflict Resolution And Globalism

[veteran]

The German philosopher Hegel was one of the fathers of socialism. Both Hitler and Karl Marx based their particular brands of socialism off of Hegel's philosophy. But one of Hegel's ideas that kind of trumps that is his theories on conflict resolution. If you understand about conflict resolution, then you'll understand much about globalist politics today, including the two-party political system in the U.S.

Hegel based his theory of conflict resolution on the nature of this world. It's about the idea of opposites in conflict with each other.

He labeld one side as thesis, the opposing side as antithesis, and the result of the conflict producing a third event he called synthesis.

Thesis against Antithesis = Synthesis

How is that idea applied? The goal is to control it, just as man does with two different electrical charges to power electrical devices.

With conflict resolution in man's affairs, if you can control BOTH sides of a conflict, then you can control the outcome, the result.

A simple example in the political realm:
A problem arises about union wages, the union wants an increase, but the company's profits are down and claim they can't afford it. They both have a meeting and negogiate. The company and union finally agree to a small wage increase with the union agreeing to a freeze in wages over a later period.

Take the ideas of Democracy and Communism, which are directly opposed to each other involving property rights, free elections, freedom of religion, free speech, control of business and ownership, right to assemble, etc. What would a synthesis of the two be like?

 

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America...wait, did I just say that? <_<

 

[veteran]

Can you say Peristroika?

That's the name for Communism's supposed fall, and its seeking to setup economic ties to the West with welcoming capitalism.

The 1960's ex-KGB defector to the U.S. named Golitsyn, in his 1984 work New Lies For Old, said Communist Russia would seek economic ties to the West with plans to join East and West together, and to create a one Socialist Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals, and would even consider taking the Berlin Wall down.

Golitsyn said that would be the third and final disinformation phase against the West according to its 1958 long-range Communist strategy to take over the West.

Thesis (western capitalism) against Antithesis (Communist Socialism) = Synthesis (East and West joined under a Socialist form of western Capitalism), the result of controlled conflict.

This is what the wealth distributions taken from the West have been about. It's why Socialist doctrine is replacing U.S. Constitutional law.

 

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Marx turned the whole Hegelian theory upside down and inside out.

Thesis vs. Anti-thesis creates a synthesis, which in turn generates another conflict and another and another, etc.
The problem with Marxist theory is that there is no peace at the end of the equation.

Democracy is based upon the ideas proposed by Luther during the reformation.
That one didn't need a priest to intercede before God in spiritual matters.
That one didn't need a priest to interpret the Bible as the book is self-interpreting.
That one's rights were granted by God and not licensed by the edicts of a monarch.

Consequently, rule and trade by the people with all the benefits and dangers therein were of a right given by God.
That these were not things which could be restricted by government. It was called liberty.

The idea that America wasn't founded as a Christian nation is absurd. The fundamental theory of a modern republic IS Christian.

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.
John Adams

Communism doesn't last as long as democracy as both forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Sex and money. It's always about sex and money.

Both forms of government are eventually overtaken by monied interests.
The communist state becomes a capitalist socialist nation with militaristic tendencies.
The democratic state because a fascist nation, also with militaristic tendencies.

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group,”
-FDR

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
-Benito Mussolini

The conflict between corrupted communism and corrupted democracy thus becomes a global corporate competition.
The corporations use military means to defend or further their goals and the governments provide human hamburger to fuel the military machines.

Man is a religious creature. If the real God is removed from human society, then people will focus their adoration on the corporate-state instead. When no higher law or divine oversight is acknowledged, both nation and society become murderously corrupted. Violence and war become the way of life.

Historically the cycle is broken by God and the whole process starts over.
The Bible states that there will come a time when God Himself will intervene in history and halt the entire cyclical process by creating and maintaining His own government. Some believe that the current human cycle is the last and God's government upon the earth is near to reality.

 

[veteran]

Marx turned the whole Hegelian theory upside down and inside out.

Thesis vs. Anti-thesis creates a synthesis, which in turn generates another conflict and another and another, etc.
The problem with Marxist theory is that there is no peace at the end of the equation.

Democracy is based upon the ideas proposed by Luther during the reformation.

Can't agree with all of what you're trying to say. The democracy practiced in ancient Greece preceeded Luther's day. A Democracy is doomed to failure because everyone must agree together completely to move forward. That's why the U.S. founders decided on a constitutional republic with elected representatives.

Marxisism is not the basis of those controlling the conflict of thesis and antithesis. It's just one of the controller's tools.

The idea that America wasn't founded as a Christian nation is absurd. The fundamental theory of a modern republic IS Christian.

That sounds like a kind of contradiction. The U.S. was founded as a Christian nation, because its people and founders were a Christian majority, and the system of laws it used originate from God's laws in The Bible. Go back in early American history about the 'blue laws'. This is the reason for such displays as the Ten Commandments upon the walls and doors of the Supreme Court building in Washington, D.C. The early colleges in colonial America were founded by, and operated by the early Christian Churches in America. That's why the ones that still exist are the oldest on American soil.

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

John Adams

I agree with John Adams on that, totally.

Communism doesn't last as long as democracy as both forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Sex and money. It's always about sex and money.

Both forms of government are eventually overtaken by monied interests.
The communist state becomes a capitalist socialist nation with militaristic tendencies.
The democratic state because a fascist nation, also with militaristic tendencies.

Communism will last as long as the money powers keep it propped up as a tool for their final purpose. Afterall, western financiers funded Soviet Communism throughout its history. It is indeed about money and power. And it's the internationalist financiers who control it.

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group,”

-FDR

FDR was a Socialist. The opposite application of his meaning in that quote is free-market capitalism. The U.S. has never been declared a Democracy. It's founders declared it a Constitutional Republic. There is a difference. If the U.S. Constitution is followed, then it's impossible for it to become a dictatorship or fascist system of government because of separation of powers per the Constitution. A dictatorship can only happen IF the people allow it.

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”

-Benito Mussolini

Communism did the same thing, with all corporations coming under direct government control. Mussolini and Hitler's ideas were from Hegel's socialism. It had many of the same earmarks of Communism.

The conflict between corrupted communism and corrupted democracy thus becomes a global corporate competition.
The corporations use military means to defend or further their goals and the governments provide human hamburger to fuel the military machines.

Let's not forget the United Nations influence in that. That's who all militaries will serve in the end.

Man is a religious creature. If the real God is removed from human society, then people will focus their adoration on the corporate-state instead. When no higher law or divine oversight is acknowledged, both nation and society become murderously corrupted. Violence and war become the way of life.

Historically the cycle is broken by God and the whole process starts over.
The Bible states that there will come a time when God Himself will intervene in history and halt the entire cyclical process by creating and maintaining His own government. Some believe that the current human cycle is the last and God's government upon the earth is near to reality.

I definitely believe God's Perfect Government is coming, when Christ Jesus returns to this earth, as written. But what kind of government will that be? A Monarchy with The KING Jesus Christ. A monarchy form of government is the best system, though it's often meant more bad rulers than good. Christ will correct that when He returns.

 

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The ancient Greeks practiced (some of them...and for a while only) true democracy. Everybody voted. The modern republic as a representative form of government is the best we've come up with. Some say that the American Federal system has outlived it's usefulness and that we should return to the individual sovereignty of separate states to insure our liberty. I usually listen when people talk like that.

After the Greeks, big government got tangled up really bad. Up and down with Roman rule and the next thing you know Europe is under the heel of a new despot, the pope. The Lutheran idea that rights were given by God, all the way from prayer to Bible reading and voting, was something of a new light after years of political darkness. It was a new thing, really. The basis of government was from God, not just the consent of the governed as in Greece.

The role of the United Nations was mentioned in the previous post. I didn't forget the UN. Well, actually I did.....I try to forget about it whenever I get the chance.

My statement about the founding of America as a Christian nation was clumsy. You are indeed correct in your statement.......I was just tired and my fingers weren't working well. (Is that a good excuse or what?)

 

[WhiteKnuckle]

I don't see anything going on in the US that is communist or socialist. Although, there are some seeming ideas and "programs" that lean that way.

Once people realize that the US is not a democracy and that we're a Republic, we'll start to understand why things work the way they do. Honestly, I don't understand why everyone insists that we're a democracy.

 

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I don't see anything going on in the US that is communist or socialist. Although, there are some seeming ideas and "programs" that lean that way.

Once people realize that the US is not a democracy and that we're a Republic, we'll start to understand why things work the way they do. Honestly, I don't understand why everyone insists that we're a democracy.

I've participated on onging threads with others about the beginning of socialism in America. Some believe that it started with Franklin D. Roosevelt and the Social Security Act, while others provide documentation that it started earlier.

The bottom line is that America didn't jump into socialism all at once.

Our experience is a bit different from nations like England, France or Russia, but it's still socialism. The problem with socialism is that it's a slippery slope that always seems to lead to governmental bankruptcy. The general population comes to believe that it is ENTITLED to benefits from the government other than protection and regulation of trade. Thus begins the policy of sucking at the government teat. It usually ends badly because there is too little milk to go around and no desire on the part of the general population to wean itself from what it perceives is a free meal.

America began as a republic. The governmental structure both Federal and State is still that of a republic; representative government. In truth, however, America is an oligarchy - ruled by a self-appointed aristocracy of monied and powered interests. The military industrial complex described by President Eisenhower in Janurary of 1960 has grown to the point that it cannot be regulated. The Pentagon is now a second government and is beyond civilian control. International corporations decide monetary policy and regulate the flow of goods and services. The people vote, but it is meaningless because the politicans are either too corrupt or too cowardly to make a move against the oligarchs.

The use of the term democracy is a misnomer as you say. It might be a good historical study to find where and how the errant label was attached to our present form of semi-constitutional government.

 

[veteran]

I don't see anything going on in the US that is communist or socialist. Although, there are some seeming ideas and "programs" that lean that way.

Once people realize that the US is not a democracy and that we're a Republic, we'll start to understand why things work the way they do. Honestly, I don't understand why everyone insists that we're a democracy.

I suggest to you the 1958 work called The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen. Skousen was an FBI agent for 16 years back in the 40's and 50's. He listed 45 strategic points in the 1958 Soviet long-range strategy to takeover the West. A simple reading of those 45 points reveal just how far Communist long-range goals have already infiltrated American society. Some of them are still on-going today.

Alger Hiss was one of the U.S. Department's representatives in the U.S. signing onto the United Nations Charter in San Francisco (1945-7?). He later was discovered to be a Soviet spy.

That kind of history you won't find in text books in American public schools. You'll have to find it for yourself. There is a historical blackout about it in western newspapers and news sources, etc., which was one of those 45 strategic Soviet points also.