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Day one let there be light..... Day four our sun is created?
Day three vegetation without sun?
Pangaea? Continental drift?
We know how landlocked seas came into being. We know that this was a slow process and didn't happen all at once.
Are dinosaurs mentioned at all? Where do we get dinosaur fossils from? I've re-read Genesis 1 and it's not at all compatible with modern day science.
Scientific proof for Pangaea comes from multiple matching lines of geological, fossil, and climatological evidence supported by the theory of plate tectonics.
1. Jigsaw-Like Continental Fit
• Coastline Matching: The edge of South America's eastern coast fits directly against the western coast of Africa, much like puzzle pieces.
• Continental Shelves: Mapping the true edges of the continents at their continental shelf boundaries reveals an even tighter, more accurate fit.
2. Fossil Distribution
• Identical Species: Fossils of the freshwater reptile Mesosaurus have been found exclusively in South America and southern Africa. This creature could not have swum across a vast, salty ocean.
• Plant Fossils: The seed fern Glossopteris is widely distributed across disconnected landmasses including Africa, South America, Australia, India, and Antarctica.
• Land Reptiles: Fossils of Lystrosaurus appear across Africa, India, and Antarctica, showing these land areas were once joined.
3. Matching Rock and Mountain Formations
• Mountain Chains: The Appalachian Mountains of eastern North America align seamlessly with the Caledonian mountain chain in Scotland, Ireland, and Scandinavia when the Atlantic Ocean is closed.
• Rock Strata: Identical layers of rock types and structural trends match perfectly across separated Atlantic coasts.
4. Paleoclimate Clues
• Glacial Deposits: Evidence of ancient glacial till and ice sheets from roughly 300 million years ago is found in regions that are now near the equator, such as southern Africa, India, and South America.
• Coal Beds: Extensive coal deposits—which form from tropical swamp forests—exist in cold, icy Antarctica. These climates only make sense if the landmasses were positioned differently and connected as a supercontinent.
5. Modern Tectonic Proof
• Magnetic Striping: Symmetrical, barcode-like magnetic patterns in rocks on opposite sides of mid-ocean ridges prove that new oceanic crust continuously forms and spreads outward.
• Satellite Measurements: Modern GPS and satellite data directly measure tectonic plate movement, showing that the Atlantic Ocean continues to widen by a few centimeters every year.
1. Jigsaw-Like Continental Fit
• Coastline Matching: The edge of South America's eastern coast fits directly against the western coast of Africa, much like puzzle pieces.
• Continental Shelves: Mapping the true edges of the continents at their continental shelf boundaries reveals an even tighter, more accurate fit.
2. Fossil Distribution
• Identical Species: Fossils of the freshwater reptile Mesosaurus have been found exclusively in South America and southern Africa. This creature could not have swum across a vast, salty ocean.
• Plant Fossils: The seed fern Glossopteris is widely distributed across disconnected landmasses including Africa, South America, Australia, India, and Antarctica.
• Land Reptiles: Fossils of Lystrosaurus appear across Africa, India, and Antarctica, showing these land areas were once joined.
3. Matching Rock and Mountain Formations
• Mountain Chains: The Appalachian Mountains of eastern North America align seamlessly with the Caledonian mountain chain in Scotland, Ireland, and Scandinavia when the Atlantic Ocean is closed.
• Rock Strata: Identical layers of rock types and structural trends match perfectly across separated Atlantic coasts.
4. Paleoclimate Clues
• Glacial Deposits: Evidence of ancient glacial till and ice sheets from roughly 300 million years ago is found in regions that are now near the equator, such as southern Africa, India, and South America.
• Coal Beds: Extensive coal deposits—which form from tropical swamp forests—exist in cold, icy Antarctica. These climates only make sense if the landmasses were positioned differently and connected as a supercontinent.
5. Modern Tectonic Proof
• Magnetic Striping: Symmetrical, barcode-like magnetic patterns in rocks on opposite sides of mid-ocean ridges prove that new oceanic crust continuously forms and spreads outward.
• Satellite Measurements: Modern GPS and satellite data directly measure tectonic plate movement, showing that the Atlantic Ocean continues to widen by a few centimeters every year.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Gen 1:2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Check snowball earth, once earth was fully covered with ice (water).
Gen 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Sun light reaches Earth.
Gen 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters Creation of the atmosphere.
Gen 1:9 And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. And there is your Pangaea.
Gen 1:11 And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. Plants indeed came first.
Gen 1:14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, Earth starts rotating.
Gen 1:20 And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” Exactly right, fish came first, then birds.
Gen 1:24 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. And there are the beast, science also got that right.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Yep, mankind came last, science also got that right.
It took science ~3000 years to figure it out and confirm Genesis 1.
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Marvelloustime
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Humans (Homo sapiens) first appeared roughly 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, and while humans are still undergoing contemporary genetic shifts (such as adaptations for digesting milk or fighting diseases), new species of insects, fish, plants, and microbes emerge daily.
So mankind didn't 'come last' as you put it, there are various newer species we can point to.
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We know that the OT God didn't create the earth with Pangaea as the land mass as suggested above. If we are to believe what the Bible clearly states then genealogy alone disproves that.
The Mediterranean is mentioned numerous times but wouldn't have existed in the time frame.
My question about prehistoric creatures existing on this planet was conveniently ignored too.
The Mediterranean is mentioned numerous times but wouldn't have existed in the time frame.
My question about prehistoric creatures existing on this planet was conveniently ignored too.