You are claiming every passage in Rev that mentions the beast is not about the AC?
Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?
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Where will the abomination of desolation be placed ? What city, what country ?
In Daniel 9:24, the 70 weeks are determined on who ? And what city ?
Where will the two witnesses testify ? And where will they be killed and come back to life ?
Where will Jesus return to in Zechariah 14 ? What city ?
The Jews (Judaism) do not think that Jesus is the messiah. They are looking for another Jew.
So name one verse about the beast in Rev that is not about the AC. The only one I can think of is where is SPECIFIES that another beast arose (false prophet)
Israel in the holy place
Jews Jerusalem. But that period also deals with the world. Jesus made that clear. Rev makes that clear. It is not limited to Israel or the Jews. The rule of the beast is worldwide. In Dan the angels told Dan how it affected his people.
They are killed in Israel if I recall. Where all they travel and also testify, who knows?
The mount of Olives but He does not set up a tent and live there. He rules the nations.
So? Whoever they pick as a leader there will not mean the rest of the world gives a flying hoot.
A different beast is not the AC. The false prophet is not the same guy obviously. Did anyone say they were?
The world will say "peace and safety" because the world will think it has entered the messianic age. But it will be a false messianic age.
1Thessalonians5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Look at the chart, Stage 3.
Says who? The world does not even believe. How is it you claim they will suddenly think they entered some 'messianic age' ?
You are building on the unsupported statement about the world thinking it was a messianic age. Name a verse that says this?? Who made that one up whole of cloth?
Right, and what is the context? He had just talked about the Rapture. So after that event, we are told the world will be saying peace and safety. That has nothing to do with the unbelieving world now suddenly believing in some messianic age does it?
I see you claim there that it is a king of Israel. Says who? Prove it. Chapter and verse that indicates some king of Israel in the end will be the AC world leader?
The fact that many deceivers will be in the world in no way means that the world all suddenly thinks it entered some 'messianic age'
Try again
It almost seems as if you are not addressing the questions and issues here and merely using each post as an excuse to post the cultish little graph? Ha
Jesus was speaking about false Christs and false prophets in particular, not deceivers in general.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The Antichrist will be a false Christ, anointed the King of Israel by the False prophet. Do you think the Antichrist will be a false Christ ?
The two charts have been posting... the 5 stages of the little horn.... and the Seven Years Chart.... go hand-n-hand.
I notice that you have not made any charts of how the end times events are going to take place on a time line.
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So? How does that mean that the world suddenly imagines it is in some messianic age? No relation.
Who says that either the final king will be 'anointed' king of Israel or anointed so by the false prophet? Why make things up?
Yes spam cult charts that are out to lunch and make foolish unsupportable claims.
Did you think this was some game when you could win if you posted the most silly charts?
I sympathise with the views of scholars and forefathers, but the holy spirit and the word of God are our teachers, we have (or should have) the same Holy Spirit as our forefathers and scholars, but who was Moses, a man of difficult speech, who was David the runt of a litter, who was Gideon, from the smallest clan of the smallest tribe. And they were wrong just like us. Therefore when I read Dan 8, I read that it says when the vision is for, the time of the end, rather than listen to some scholar who has decided for me what it means or how it should be interpreted, even against the grain of Christiandom.
Can we trust Him to speak to us, can we trust Him to guide, Hebrews 8.11+ No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
He will be a lot more than that. Nor is that was Jesus was talking about in the end. He was warning believers of that day not to believe anyone if they claimed He had already returned and was hiding somewhere. The AC won't be hiding! He will be out of the closet and strutting his stuff
You have to be careful in Daniel, because you will definitely come across English words like "vision" in chapter 8 that may be misinterpreted. Example, here are the 9 specific times the English word "vision" can be found but it could mean one of two very, very different things. One represenst a "short term" vision that is entirely linked to the coming Messiah, while the other is a "long term" vision that covers a period from 457 BC to His return.
Consequently, when these terms are also found in conjunction with the phrase "at the end of time" or similar phrase, one has to apply it to the surronding terms / phrases. Meaning, the phrase "time of the end" has two possible meanings; one - does it speak to the true end of time or does it speak to the end of the 70 weeks of yearsw prophecy when the Messiah arrives and is crucified?
Verses where Chazon is found
Daniel 8:1: A vision appeared to me.
Daniel 8:2: I saw in the vision.
Daniel 8:13: How long will the vision be?
Daniel 8:15: had seen the vision.
Daniel 8:17: The vision refers to the time of the end.
Daniel 8:26: Therefore seal up the vision, for it refers to many days
in the future.
Verses where Mareh is found
Daniel 8:16: Make this man understand the vision.
Daniel 8:26: The vision of the evenings and mornings.
Daniel 8:27: Astonished at the vision, but no one understood it.
So you answered "yes" the Antichrist will be a false Christ.
Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
So, the Antichrist will be a false Christ the King of Israel.
You say that he will be a lot more than that. So look at my chart. His stage after being the Antichrist, false King of Israel, will be as the revealed man of sin, then as the beast-king.
OK
Who knows? You might say the AC will be a carpenter because Jesus was, that the AC will be born in a manger etc etc. None of that is based in fact. Just speculation. better to stick to what God said.
I see you squeaked in that pesky chart again. If your chart claims the final ruler will be a 'king of Israel' that tells us something about the chart. One characteristic of the AC is that he kills a lot of Jews. If you want to claim the bible says the AC must be 'proclaimed' the 'king' of the Jews, you better give us Scripture. You haven't so far. Maybe it's time to be honest.
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