Randy Kluth
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Are your really so naive? You're obviously immersed in the progressive news info, and completely ignoring what Israel and more conservative news, like Newsmax, has been reporting on this?
Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?
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It is cut and dry. A population is being terrorized and starved and killed and faces massive relocations. Trump has talked about moving them all openly, Etc. No one says that every person in Gaza is pure as driven snow. Or that some resistance fighter/terrorists were or are not hiding amongst them.
Davy
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Davy
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What "genocide" are you MAKING UP NOW?
You mean the genocide that the Arabs do with putting their own children out in the front lines while they hide behind them with their AK-47's and take pot shots at the Israeli's, daring the Israeli's to fire back at them?
Or do you mean the genocide of Israeli civilians targeted by the Islamic terrorists with their firing rockets over into Israel, killing innocent civilians and children?
When Israel got tired of Hezbollah firing rockets at them a few years ago, and invaded Lebanon, did you not see the news that showed the labels on those rocket crates sent to Hezbollah in Lebanon? The crates had RUSSIAN markings on them; RUSSIA is who sent them to Hezbollah Islamic terrorists to fire at Israel.
And what do ya know, God's Word shows in Ezekiel 38 the nation alignment at the end of this world of those nations allied together against Israel, which involves Russia, Iran-Iraq, Syria, Georgia, Turkey, Sudan, etc., the very ones that have been guilty of fomenting radical Islamic terrorism against Israel and... free nations.
So I'd be very... careful just what YOU say after this, because it is looking more and more that you may be SIDING WITH ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.
Randy Kluth
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Read your Bible. God gave the Canaanites a long time to repent of their grievous sins. They didn't repent. Then God told Israel to drive them out.
I see a replay of this in Gaza. The Gazans were given sovereignty over the land that used to be part of Israel. Then the Gazans elected Hamas, a terrorist organization, to be terrorist leader over them.
Not just the leaders, but the people of Gaza, support this war against Israel. I'm not for exterminating the Gazan people, but they do need to move out or completely repent of their oath to destroy Israel as a Jewish State. The world cannot coexist without recognition of the rights of fellow nations who wish to be at peace with other like nations.
You copy the words written for you by terrorist sympathizers like European leaders and the Democratic Party in the US. I despise the antisemitic attitude demonstrated by those who support haters of Israel. I've had enough of you and your ilk. It isn't Christian.
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You need to make up your mind. You talked about 'we the people' were running the US. Then you say the people are not to blame for wars. Make up your mind.
The one in Gaza. Go ahead and feign ignorance
No. I mean the one actually mass murdering and starving people
It is too late, in case that is news to you, to try and defend the barbarism and demonic assaults on a population. Sorry. It is evil, period and the world knows.
And the US sends stuff to Israel. Ask yourself which side has killed more children?
Yes and how GOD brings them down, puts His hook in their jaws. Ever wonder why? People have less to wonder about now.
I am siding with the widows and orphans and people being mass murdered. So is God.
No connection whatsoever. He told believers to do things. He tells unbelieving Israel nothing.
No. No relation whatsoever.
You make things up about what I do actually.
I do not like children being starved and mass murdered that is not Christian. That is terrorism. Whether you like it or not.
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And we should remember there are more than one antichrist-
"Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour" (1 John 2:18 )
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist" (2 John 1:7)
"..every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world" (1 John 4:3)
"Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist, he denies the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22/3)
No, there will be only one "the" Antichrist.
The translation you are copying and pasting from has the "the" adjective inserted before antichrist.
Here is the kjv translation of 1John 2:22-23, for example. No "the" adjective. In verse 22, the phrase "He is antichrist" means antichrist-like.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Davy
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You don't have a case, your blame the people point is foolishness. It only shows your jealousy of the people of the United States, because "We the people..." DO have the ability to eventually get bad leaders out of office, whereas you Socialist Canadians DO NOT.
And already the province of Alberta in today's Canada are prepared to vote to become a part of the United States of America!
Davy
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Your are... basically SIDING WITH RADICAL ISLAM against Israel. Thanks for letting us know who you really are.
ScottA
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Dad / All,
Daniel's prophecy is one of "sevens": Seventy weeks, and seven weeks, and one week, wherein sixty-two is a riddle. The seven(s) referred to were defined in the creation story (before all language was confused (riddled)), as seven days by example of the evenings and the mornings of this world--but the same word is used simply for "times." Thus, by the time we get to Daniel, confusion has set in surrounding the original meaning--while the creation story of seven days was the matter foretold by God before it sprang forth--which God reminds us of through Isaiah, saying "Behold, the former things have come to pass, And new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
This is the key to understanding Daniel, according to God, rather than according to His imposed confusion which came a Babel, including "all language", even scripture.
In other words, the overall timeframe of Daniel's seventy weeks--is rather seven "times" which began at the beginning--for the prophecy was for all of Daniel's people...all, meaning: since Adam. Wherein midway Messiah does away with the daily sacrifice by fulfilling it. Which means, there is no "seventieth week" yet to be fulfilled...caused by the riddle of sixty-two weeks...which was eluded to by Daniel in the form of "a time, times, and half a time." In his "times" explanation (as I have also explained), he restates God's creation week preview of history as one overall time, coming in two halves before and after Messiah, dividing the light from the darkness (in half--morning and evening) until the end of time.
Then why didn’t the Bible record the 70 times of Daniel instead of 70 weeks of Daniel?
ScottA
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As I explained (brief as it was, sorry), it is because God has "confused all language" since the Tower of Babel. Which is then only explained by Paul thousands of years later, as the scriptures needing to be "rightly divided" and "spiritually discerned." Which notes the change that was to occur with Christ coming bringing with Him the ability and requirement of being born again of the spirit of God. In other words, the scriptures had become not enough going forward, since Babel and since Christ.
ScottA
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You repeat your request.
But as I said before--there is no timeline with God who is eternal, only with men who prefer the times and terms of this world.
God Himself is eternal. But it was God who gave the time frames to Daniel through Gabriel. Make a timeline chart of the time frames of Daniel 9:24-27 and post it.
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