Dead To The Law

[soul man]

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:19-20.

What is Paul's main theme in Galatians 2:20, why was it written? The previous verse Paul says "by the law he was dead to the law." How was Paul dead to the law? Being in Christ on the cross when he died. When Jesus Christ died Paul could see that he died with him and all humanity was crucified in Christ.

All humanity is dead in Christ right now. All in Adam dead as Christ on Calvary. Wow that is mind blowing how God fixed it to where all a sinner has to do is believe! Glory!

So why do sinner's still have a sin nature? Because they have not believed. You believe unto salvation, that is what saves a sinner! They don't even need to confess they need to believe (they can confess it doesn't hurt anything but it is not necessary, they must believe). Believers confess when they have their moments but a sinner (a sinner is a non-believer) must believe unto salvation.

So it all humanity is dead in Christ why do they keep sinning? Simple; they have not believed. They are dead in Christ on the cross but the need to realize that will be something that is learned by believers. What happens to you the moment you believe? You are birthed in Christ, and Christ is birthed in you, born again. Do you really know why you are different from the world? Because a birthing has taken place the moment you believed.

The cross has done it's finished work and all the sinner must do is believe. I know that doesn't fit all the pride and pageantry of religion but it is that simple. Always keep in mind a child can understand our gospel because it is that simple. Now what goes on in life after Christ may not be as simple (it can be if not for me, the world, the flesh, the devil, and my unrenewed mind) because we will go through the school house of training son's to live in the father's house.

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. - John 14:2.

I mentioned something in parentheses above. The world, the flesh, and the devil as being a hindrance to a believers understanding. It does not have to be that way, it is mentioned because most will come that way but it does not have to be that way. If a believer was to hear nothing but the pure unadulterated word of God taught like it was intended there would be a lot less confusion and alot more understanding of what the gospel is. The gospel is the road map for a believers life, following the road map will be your challenge as you move in God.

 

[CharismaticLady]

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:19-20.

What is Paul's main theme in Galatians 2:20, why was it written? The previous verse Paul says "by the law he was dead to the law." How was Paul dead to the law? Being in Christ on the cross when he died. When Jesus Christ died Paul could see that he died with him and all humanity was crucified in Christ.

All humanity is dead in Christ right now. All in Adam dead as Christ on Calvary. Wow that is mind blowing how God fixed it to where all a sinner has to do is believe! Glory!

So why do sinner's still have a sin nature? Because they have not believed. You believe unto salvation, that is what saves a sinner! They don't even need to confess they need to believe (they can confess it doesn't hurt anything but it is not necessary, they must believe). Believers confess when they have their moments but a sinner (a sinner is a non-believer) must believe unto salvation.

So it all humanity is dead in Christ why do they keep sinning? Simple; they have not believed. They are dead in Christ on the cross but the need to realize that will be something that is learned by believers. What happens to you the moment you believe? You are birthed in Christ, and Christ is birthed in you, born again. Do you really know why you are different from the world? Because a birthing has taken place the moment you believed.

The cross has done it's finished work and all the sinner must do is believe. I know that doesn't fit all the pride and pageantry of religion but it is that simple. Always keep in mind a child can understand our gospel because it is that simple. Now what goes on in life after Christ may not be as simple (it can be if not for me, the world, the flesh, the devil, and my unrenewed mind) because we will go through the school house of training son's to live in the father's house.

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. - John 14:2.

I mentioned something in parentheses above. The world, the flesh, and the devil as being a hindrance to a believers understanding. It does not have to be that way, it is mentioned because most will come that way but it does not have to be that way. If a believer was to hear nothing but the pure unadulterated word of God taught like it was intended there would be a lot less confusion and alot more understanding of what the gospel is. The gospel is the road map for a believers life, following the road map will be your challenge as you move in God.

Yes, we MUST be born again. But many are clueless as to how to achieve that. It starts with integrity of heart. For me I told God of my sin and that I was powerless to stop loving my sin in order to give it up. That was the epiphany I had come to. I was powerless, and needed the power of God inside me. That was the key. Within moments of telling God that, a chain of events started to happen that brought me to God, and He filled me with His powerful Spirit to live through me. I was no longer the weak sinner. God saved me from my sin, not in my sin, and gave me power to hate sin. My desires took an about-face overnight! And I also fell madly in love with Jesus.

 

[DPMartin]

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:19-20.

What is Paul's main theme in Galatians 2:20, why was it written? The previous verse Paul says "by the law he was dead to the law." How was Paul dead to the law? Being in Christ on the cross when he died. When Jesus Christ died Paul could see that he died with him and all humanity was crucified in Christ.

All humanity is dead in Christ right now. All in Adam dead as Christ on Calvary. Wow that is mind blowing how God fixed it to where all a sinner has to do is believe! Glory!

So why do sinner's still have a sin nature? Because they have not believed. You believe unto salvation, that is what saves a sinner! They don't even need to confess they need to believe (they can confess it doesn't hurt anything but it is not necessary, they must believe). Believers confess when they have their moments but a sinner (a sinner is a non-believer) must believe unto salvation.

So it all humanity is dead in Christ why do they keep sinning? Simple; they have not believed. They are dead in Christ on the cross but the need to realize that will be something that is learned by believers. What happens to you the moment you believe? You are birthed in Christ, and Christ is birthed in you, born again. Do you really know why you are different from the world? Because a birthing has taken place the moment you believed.

The cross has done it's finished work and all the sinner must do is believe. I know that doesn't fit all the pride and pageantry of religion but it is that simple. Always keep in mind a child can understand our gospel because it is that simple. Now what goes on in life after Christ may not be as simple (it can be if not for me, the world, the flesh, the devil, and my unrenewed mind) because we will go through the school house of training son's to live in the father's house.

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. - John 14:2.

I mentioned something in parentheses above. The world, the flesh, and the devil as being a hindrance to a believers understanding. It does not have to be that way, it is mentioned because most will come that way but it does not have to be that way. If a believer was to hear nothing but the pure unadulterated word of God taught like it was intended there would be a lot less confusion and alot more understanding of what the gospel is. The gospel is the road map for a believers life, following the road map will be your challenge as you move in God.

but you must understand, that salvation is unto Abraham, as it is unto Apostle Paul or Peter. the "faith" is the same. the law changes nothing, its a witness against you that one, you're not a Christ and that you can not save yourself because you can't meet the standard of the law, which is true whether God gave the law to Moses or not.

and the law is also a witness that Christ is who He is. (of which the Priests of the day knew, and is why they tried to accuse Jesus at every opportunity) the knowledge of a Messiah and what He is via the law is common knowledge in those days and before.


the Life of Christ supersedes the law, because the law is really a discerption of Christ who fulfills the law, so as Paul reiterates:


Rom 3:26　 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.　
Rom 3:27　 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.　
Rom 3:28　 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.　
Rom 3:29　 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:　
Rom 3:30　 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.　
Rom 3:31　 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.　


because one lives the Life that has fulfilled the law.

 

[soul man]

but you must understand, that salvation is unto Abraham, as it is unto Apostle Paul or Peter. the "faith" is the same. the law changes nothing, its a witness against you that one,

The faith may be the same but the results are as different as night and day. What they received in the Old Testament by their faith in relation to God was all self effort. What believers recieve by faith in New Testament is a new life, or a life that has never exsisted by Christ in you. The OT had no in Christ position, thanks for commenting I enjoyed it.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Yes, we MUST be born again. But many are clueless as to how to achieve that. It starts with integrity of heart. For me I told God of my sin and that I was powerless to stop loving my sin in order to give it up. That was the epiphany I had come to. I was powerless, and needed the power of God inside me. That was the key. Within moments of telling God that, a chain of events started to happen that brought me to God, and He filled me with His powerful Spirit to live through me. I was no longer the weak sinner. God saved me from my sin, not in my sin, and gave me power to hate sin. My desires took an about-face overnight! And I also fell madly in love with Jesus.

Charismatic I-DEO-logy

 

[Davy]

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:19-20.

What is Paul's main theme in Galatians 2:20, why was it written? The previous verse Paul says "by the law he was dead to the law." How was Paul dead to the law? Being in Christ on the cross when he died. When Jesus Christ died Paul could see that he died with him and all humanity was crucified in Christ.

All humanity is dead in Christ right now. All in Adam dead as Christ on Calvary. Wow that is mind blowing how God fixed it to where all a sinner has to do is believe! Glory!

So why do sinner's still have a sin nature? Because they have not believed. You believe unto salvation, that is what saves a sinner! They don't even need to confess they need to believe (they can confess it doesn't hurt anything but it is not necessary, they must believe). Believers confess when they have their moments but a sinner (a sinner is a non-believer) must believe unto salvation.
....

That "sin nature" idea is from modern Bible translations. The original manuscripts point to our 'flesh' being what causes most of our sinning.

Rom 6:7
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
KJV

Rom 7:18-25
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
KJV


Why did God set things up with us this way? Paul answers that here...

Gal 3:22
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
KJV

We are to strive to be perfect like our Lord Jesus, but... we are to realize that we will always fall short of the glory of God, so that we would need God's Promised Saviour Jesus Christ, and that only by Faith on His Blood shed upon His cross would we receive forgiveness of our sins.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

We are to strive to be perfect like our Lord Jesus, but... we are to realize that we will always fall short of the glory of God, so that we would need God's Promised Saviour Jesus Christ, and that only by Faith on His Blood shed upon His cross would we receive forgiveness of our sins.

What Roman Catholics believe and preach and MAKE LAW!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The cross has done it's finished work and all the sinner must do is believe.

<All the sinner must do is> is do what he cannot do or cooperate to do.... tragic.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[Taken]

Dead To The Law?
OP^

The Law- is applicable TO:
A person WHO "was/is" UNDER the Law.

The Law- is a reference to OT Hebrew/Mosaic Law.

IOW- a man NEVER "UNDER", can NOT be "DEAD TO the LAW".

The "LAW", in question Applied, To "the TRIBES of ISRAEL", God established, as A race of people, through birthrights of their "parents".

Dead TO The Law- applies TO A man who WAS Under the Law...
And IS NO LONGER subject to, the CURSES OF THE LAW.

Curses, are LAWS, (which we can compare to modern day Laws, "called" PENAL Laws).

Curse Laws/ penal Laws; ARE called "negative laws".

They are "Punishment Laws" (negative Consequences) FOR Violating...Positive Laws.

"Positive Laws are laws which Define;
•Requirements, things people Must Do.
•Forbations; things people Must NOT Do.
•Allowances; things people CAN Do, Which have a Legal standing; and MAY result in positive OR negative, Results, from "Other People".

Allowances for Example:
Not required or Forbidden to file Bankruptcy, but leagally ALLOWED.
Others may Be Negatively critical, while some will be unmoved by an other conducting their own business.

Dead to the Law means- A person WHO IS of one of the "Tribes of Israel", WHO, BY and through Conversion IN Christ", is NO LONGER, subject To the Mosaic "Curse/ penal/Penalty" Laws.

Rom 7:
[4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ....
Rom 7:
[6] But now we (those IN Christ) are B] delivered from the law...[/B]

Gal 3:
[13] Christ hath redeemed us (Tribes of Israel) from the curse of the law...

Gentile's were Never Delivered FROM or Redeemed FROM the Law...

Because The Law did NOT Apply to them in the first place.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The Law- is a reference to OT Hebrew/Mosaic Law.

But God's Word says otherwise, Exodus 20:1..2..6..10..11. so that man pleads, 19 .. and Moses answers, 20 "FOR GOD IS COME TO PROVE YOU", that is, you <Taken>!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Gentile's were Never Delivered FROM or Redeemed FROM the Law...

Surprise surprise you wait a wee bit ...

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Dead to the Law means- A person WHO IS of one of the "Tribes of Israel", WHO, BY and through Conversion IN Christ", is NO LONGER, subject To the Mosaic "Curse/ penal/Penalty" Laws.

Rom 7:
[4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ....
Rom 7:
[6] But now we (those IN Christ) are B] delivered from the law...[/B]

Swindler!

1What shall we say then?
1Τί οὖν ἐροῦμεν;

Shall we continue in sin,
ἐπιμένωμεν τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ,

that grace may abound?
ἵνα ἡ χάρις πλεονάσῃ;

2God forbid.
2μὴ γένοιτο.

How shall we, that are dead to sin,
οἵτινες ἀπεθάνομεν τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ,

live any longer therein?
πῶς ἔτι ζήσομεν ἐν αὐτῇ;

3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ
3ἢ ἀγνοεῖτε ὅτι ὅσοι ἐβαπτίσθημεν εἰς Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν,

were baptized into his death?
εἰς τὸν θάνατον αὐτοῦ ἐβαπτίσθημεν;

4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
4συνετάφημεν οὖν αὐτῷ διὰ τοῦ βαπτίσματος εἰς τὸν θάνατον,

that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
ἵνα ὥσπερ ἠγέρθη Χριστὸς ἐκ νεκρῶν διὰ τῆς δόξης τοῦ Πατρός,

even so we also should walk in newness of life.
οὕτως καὶ ἡμεῖς ἐν καινότητι ζωῆς περιπατήσωμεν.

5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death,
5εἰ γὰρ σύμφυτοι γεγόναμεν τῷ ὁμοιώματι τοῦ θανάτου αὐτοῦ,

we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
ἀλλὰ καὶ τῆς ἀναστάσεως ἐσόμεθα·

6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him,
6τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, ὅτι ὁ παλαιὸς ἡμῶν ἄνθρωπος συνεσταυρώθη,

that the body of sin might be destroyed,
ἵνα καταργηθῇ τὸ σῶμα τῆς ἁμαρτίας,

that henceforth we should not serve sin.
τοῦ μηκέτι δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ·

7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
7ὁ γὰρ ἀποθανὼν δεδικαίωται ἀπὸ τῆς ἁμαρτίας.

...while you want the believer to believe JUST THE OPPOSITE! IT'S A SHAME!

 

[Taken]

But God's Word says otherwise, Exodus 20:1..2..6..10..11. so that man pleads, 19 .. and Moses answers, 20 "FOR GOD IS COME TO PROVE YOU", that is, you <Taken>!

Not to me. I am neither a Hebrew or Jew.
What the Lord has to say to me is NOT 10 Commands Or 600+ Of Mosaic Laws.

Gods Word says a lot of things...do you not know how to determine what does and does Not apply to you?

Do you obey OT Laws?

 

[Taken]

...while you want the believer to believe JUST THE OPPOSITE! IT'S A SHAME!

Oh good grief, pay attention to who is making that claim...YOU...not me.
The shame is on you.

 

[marks]

Yes, we MUST be born again. But many are clueless as to how to achieve that. It starts with integrity of heart. For me I told God of my sin and that I was powerless to stop loving my sin in order to give it up. That was the epiphany I had come to. I was powerless, and needed the power of God inside me. That was the key. Within moments of telling God that, a chain of events started to happen that brought me to God, and He filled me with His powerful Spirit to live through me. I was no longer the weak sinner. God saved me from my sin, not in my sin, and gave me power to hate sin. My desires took an about-face overnight! And I also fell madly in love with Jesus.

Beautiful!!!

:)

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Not to me. I am neither a Hebrew or Jew.
What the Lord has to say to me is NOT 10 Commands Or 600+ Of Mosaic Laws.

Gods Word says a lot of things...do you not know how to determine what does and does Not apply to you?

Do you obey OT Laws?

So you imply you obey NT Law, you liar.

And there is ONE GOD with one Word-one-Law as imperishable as HE IS.

Surely I see what you say is true, you are not of the Israel of God.

And all this only because you are afraid of the Fourth Commandment so it is pure pretence and a façade of cardboard which you erect in front of the whole Law of GOD IN SCRIPTURE.

 

[CharismaticLady]

So you imply you obey NT Law, you liar.

And there is ONE GOD with one Word-one-Law as imperishable as HE IS.

Surely I see what you say is true, you are not of the Israel of God.

And all this only because you are afraid of the Fourth Commandment so it is pure pretence and a façade of cardboard which you erect in front of the whole Law of GOD IN SCRIPTURE.

From seeing you call someone a liar, shows that you can obey the Old Testament laws of thou shalt not murder with no problem, but not the laws of Jesus, the New Testament laws of LOVE. The OT laws have nothing to do with inward love, just outward actions. That is why the OT laws were upgraded for the New Covenant, because they can make you holy, whereas the OT laws could not.