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JesusIsFaithful

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May the Lord Jesus Christ as my Good Shepherd, help me to defend the faith and not cater to the media in defending famous christian leaders when they are speaking contrary to the faith in Jesus Christ that we are to defend & to keep.

Luke 6:46Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

Galatians 5:10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be. 11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. 12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgpUPHkgc8
 
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Billy Graham is a mighty man of God. As far as I understand...he is still alive aged 96. *"According to his biography, Billy Graham has preached to more people in live audiences than anyone else in history. He's preached the Gospel to nearly 215 million people in more than 185 countries and territories worldwide. He's also led hundreds of thousands of people to make personal decisions to live for Christ, which is the main focus of his ministry."

I have never read any of Billy's books nor have I ever watched any videos about him but as a new believer, many years back and living on the other side of the planet ~ Billy Graham was an inspiration and a role model to many young people [and old] whose desire was to follow God, to give him the due glory and to extend his Kingdom here on earth.

*By Leonardo Blair , CP Reporter
http://www.christianpost.com/news/billy-graham-is-still-alive-rep-debunks-social-media-hoax-that-fooled-nearly-1-million-fans-130069/
 
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Angelina said:
Billy Graham is a mighty man of God. As far as I understand...he is still alive aged 96. *"According to his biography, Billy Graham has preached to more people in live audiences than anyone else in history. He's preached the Gospel to nearly 215 million people in more than 185 countries and territories worldwide. He's also led hundreds of thousands of people to make personal decisions to live for Christ, which is the main focus of his ministry."

I have never read any of Billy's books nor have I ever watched any videos about him but as a new believer, many years back and living on the other side of the planet ~ Billy Graham was an inspiration and a role model to many young people [and old] whose desire was to follow God, to give him the due glory and to extend his Kingdom here on earth.

*By Leonardo Blair , CP Reporter
http://www.christianpost.com/news/billy-graham-is-still-alive-rep-debunks-social-media-hoax-that-fooled-nearly-1-million-fans-130069/
Incidentally, I had given the wrong reference for that verse in the OP;

Luke 6:26Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

If I was ever in the ministry and people & the media were praising me, I would be concerned on how I was serving Him, but I can understand how even Billy Graham and the many believers ( and I include myself ) for having gone astray in this religious guantlet, because of errant modern Bible versions.

No one has a problem with the KJV until they read something that they do not like and so they go to another Bible that changes the message that better supports their false teaching and false practises.

Like the commitment to follow Christ. Commit does not always mean "I will do it" but commitment does. Commit as used in the Bible means to roll over or entrust someone else with it as "He will do it".

Churches and evangelical leaders look to believers making a commitment as a means of getting them to be serious about following Him; thereby looking to their will & merit in following Him by keeping that commitment. That is a yoke of bondage that Jesus did not teach nor any of His disciples.

So where do believers get that idea that it is okay to make commitents or promises to Christ? Errant modern Bible versions.

1 Peter 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. KJV

This verse is totally about Jesus Christ of Whom we can entrust in doing a good job as in the well doing in the keeping of our souls while any saint suffers.

The message has been changed in some modern Bibles.

1 Peter 4:19 So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good. NIV

The subject of Him keeping our souls while we suffer has been dropped. The way it is written, many believers see this verse as justifying making a commitment to Christ and into following Him or to do good.

Not all modern Bibles will share in that same changed message of the NIV, but you should all know where the idea for the commitment to Christ and the commitment to follow Christ comes from; errant modern Bibles that decline from the testimony of the Son.

To prove that the commitment to Christ is of the flesh that men can boast in; in 1994, churches got invloved with the Promise Keeprs' program; also known as a movement of men in the media. As if that yoke of bondage of making a commitment to follow Christ was not enough, they resort to the seven promises of the PK program to "get" men where they belong as leaders in the home, church, and community. And guess what? That program failed too, and embarking on that program proved that the commitment to follow Christ fails too as the church failed to get men "serious" in following Jesus by keeping that commitment.

It is not about how serious we are, because no matter how much the spirit is willing, the flesh is weak, therefor what is impossible with men is possible with God and so it is about knowing how serious He is in helping us to follow Him which can only be done by faith in Jesus Christ... for without faith, it is impossible to please Him at all

And trying to keep that commitment to follow Him as if that is the secret or the power for living the christian life, that shall only void faith in Him that He is able to help us to follow Him all by Himself by trusting Him alone.

Our confidence is solely on Him; it is not a shared confidence wherein we can lay claim to His workmanship in our lives.

Psalm 100:3 Know ye that the Lord he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

So I ask every believer to ask Jesus to set you free from your commitments & promises to Him and trust Him as your personal Good Shepherd that He will help you to follow Him through the Holy Spirit in you and you will get to know the Bridegroom because He will.

We can do all things through Christ that strengthens us because of our faith in Him & Hispromises to us; not because of our commitments & promises to Him.
 

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If I was ever in the ministry and people & the media were praising me, I would be concerned on how I was serving Him, but I can understand how even Billy Graham and the many believers ( and I include myself ) for having gone astray in this religious guantlet, because of errant modern Bible versions.
...Billy Graham is just a man who honors God by doing his will. Even Jesus and Paul had followers. Idolizing a particular version of the bible however, is "Idolatry"
 
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Angelina said:
...Billy Graham is just a man who honors God by doing his will. Even Jesus and Paul had followers.
Did you not see the youtube video at the link in the OP where Billy Graham said that there were other ways for men to be saved and not necessarily by the name of Jesus Christ? That is not the words nor actions of a just man keeping the faith in Jesus Christ.

Idolizing a particular version of the bible however, is "Idolatry"
Trusting Jesus as my Good Shepherd in showing me which Bible is keeping His words because of them that loved Him & His words is not idolatry but a desire to love Him and His actual words that He wants us to have in living and following Him as His disciples.

If 1 Peter 4:19 does not bother you by its declining from the testimony of the Son in doing a good job in the keeping of our souls while we suffer as it is testified in the KJV, then where else are you going to read that promise? That is only one of the many reasons why I love the KJV over all modern Bibles as I can see why the NIV is supporting the apostate movement of making and keeping the commitment to follow Christ as a means to secure assurance of salvation because that is Billy Graham's altar call.

Billy Graham preached this gospel before his altar call said the opposite which is the apostasy referenced. His gospel presentation went like this, " It is not going to church every Sunday that is going to save you. It is not keeping the ten commandments that is going to save you. It is all those that call upon the name of the Lord."

Then came the apostate altar call which is the OPPOSITE of what he had preached.

"If you are not sure you are saved, come forward and make a commitment to follow Christ." ~~ Billy Graham & now Franklin Graham.

So why didn't he say. "If you are not sure you are saved, if you had called upon the name of the Lord, know that you are saved."? That would tie in with the gospel message that he had preached.

But now.. to keep that commitment to follow Christ as an assurance of salvation is to go to church every Sunday and keep the ten commandments and more because the teachings of Jesus are higher than the works of the law.

And the devil is laughing at the switcheroo of the gospel presentation with many believers in a yoke of bondage labouring in unbelief and coming short of that rest in Jesus Christ.

If you think the works of catholicism is a denying Catholics of their salvation in Him; then no more than Billy Graham's altar call.

But having the right Bible is needed to see that since the NIV supports that altar call whereas the KJV wasn't supporting it at all, but maintaining the testimony of the Son for us to rest in that no matter how bad we suffer, He is keeping our souls in well doing.

Psalm 119:.157 Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies. 158 I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

Now which Bible would you rather have when you come across a believer that doubts his salvation because he was not always a good christian in keeping that commitment to follow Christ?
 

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Did you not see the youtube video at the link in the OP where Billy Graham said that there were other ways for men to be saved and not necessarily by the name of Jesus Christ? That is not the words nor actions of a just man keeping the faith in Jesus Christ.
Sorry..I'm not gonna go down that road of destroying a brothers many years of ministry by buying into stuff like that. He stands or falls before Christ alone. We have enough trouble keeping our own noses clean. It has been noted that Christians are the only army on earth that are in the habit of attacking their own soldiers.
 

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Angelina said:
Sorry..I'm not gonna go down that road of destroying a brothers many years of ministry by buying into stuff like that. He stands or falls before Christ alone. We have enough trouble keeping our own noses clean. It has been noted that Christians are the only army on earth that are in the habit of attacking their own soldiers.
Because we are not all speaking the same thing nor keeping the faith which is the good fight.

And leaders can go astray.
 

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Okay, so last night I took my kids to Winter Jam. It is a concert that includes bands like For King and County, Jeremy Camp, Skillet, Francesca Battastelli, and so forth. Total 10 bands. It was a great time and my kids had a blast. However, there was a guest pastor, Tony Nolan or something like that. He preached for a few minutes and spoke about outreach programs for orphans and how he had adopted a little girl from China. It was a really good story then, in my opinion, he took the opportunity of spiritual vulnerability and got everyone hyped up and sent them rushing into the concourse to go "adopt" a child from another country. He said "Don't even think about if you can afford it, Christ will provide." I was dumbfounded as I watched the masses run out into the concourse and start signing up for it.

I am one of the biggest advocates of being led by Christ but this was taking advantage of people, no question about it. In this case, I would say there can be truth holding too mush stock in some public speakers of faith. What he did was uncalled for. And it only hurts the mission of those organizations trying to rescue the children.
 

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Because we are not all speaking the same thing nor keeping the faith which is the good fight.
And leaders can go astray.
Any believer can go astray...even if they are speaking the same thing. We live in the world where the spirit of the world exists and every temptation known to man ~ The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life.