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Ignorance is the one who fails to see the truth when it’s right in front of him.

Please, stop trying to defend your opinions.

In Australia, we have a Prayer Network, and this prayer network cannot see the spiritual disease within my own country. They cannot see the connection between trying to heal Babylon and our country being filled with locusts, i.e., people who will consume all of the goodness within the land. This connection is plainly spoken about for us to hear and see in the Book of Jeremiah for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Jeremiah plainly tells us what will happen during the time that Israel will be seeking to reconnect with MT. Zion/the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The Prayer Network's focus is on how the individual can gain harmony within their lives if they follow their steps to redemption.

Sadly, they are not calling the nation of Australia to repentance for the grave sins that we as a nation have committed against God.

I too have to repent for cheering on our country's government for acting God like and going into Iraq/Babylon to heal the land instead of destroying Iraq/Babylon. I unwittingly joined with the government in their sin, and I too must also suffer the consequences of the sins that I committed in this regard. This is not the only sin that I need to repent of, but this is not the right place or forum on which to resolve all of my sins on, and be healed, when my fellow brothers in Christ do not have the same understanding.

I can only point to the cause and effects of what has transpired over the past 35 or so years and pray that the eyes of the congregation will be opened so that they can see, and their ears unblocked so that they can hear. I can only speak what I have been given. It is up to the Holy Spirit to quicken the minds of those who may read what I post.

Shalom
 

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Please, stop trying to defend your opinions.

In Australia, we have a Prayer Network, and this prayer network cannot see the spiritual disease within my own country. They cannot see the connection between trying to heal Babylon and our country being filled with locusts, i.e., people who will consume all of the goodness within the land. This connection is plainly spoken about for us to hear and see in the Book of Jeremiah for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Jeremiah plainly tells us what will happen during the time that Israel will be seeking to reconnect with MT. Zion/the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The Prayer Network's focus is on how the individual can gain harmony within their lives if they follow their steps to redemption.

Sadly, they are not calling the nation of Australia to repentance for the grave sins that we as a nation have committed against God.

I too have to repent for cheering on our country's government for acting God like and going into Iraq/Babylon to heal the land instead of destroying Iraq/Babylon. I unwittingly joined with the government in their sin, and I too must also suffer the consequences of the sins that I committed in this regard. This is not the only sin that I need to repent of, but this is not the right place or forum on which to resolve all of my sins on, and be healed, when my fellow brothers in Christ do not have the same understanding.

I can only point to the cause and effects of what has transpired over the past 35 or so years and pray that the eyes of the congregation will be opened so that they can see, and their ears unblocked so that they can hear. I can only speak what I have been given. It is up to the Holy Spirit to quicken the minds of those who may read what I post.

Shalom
And what sins did your country commit?Oh wait you took the aboriginals land, please, play the violin.
 

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And what sins did your country commit?Oh wait you took the aboriginals land, please, play the violin.

No, the sins that are impacting both of our countries has happened within the last 100 or so years. But you are being very petty at the moment, and you are not listening or seeing what is at stake at this present time. Perhaps if you approach this conversation between us differently, then we may be able to continue this conversation, otherwise it will only degenerate into a conversation as to who has the bigger bat with which to dong the other party with.
 

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Illegals are different from immigrants who come here legally, we don’t want criminals flooding our country and getting on welfare and exploiting our Country for everything they can get for free without working for it, and popping out kids like a soda machine, so that they can exploit the system even more.

I have heard this argument before. Often immigrants are here because they are prepared to take risks, and anything is better than the life they had in the country they are coming from. To survive in the black economy often means they have to work very hard, because nothing is easy.

In the UK it was the immigrants who were doing the jobs that locals did not want to do, which were often difficult, back breaking and with little pay. Without official documentation how are they able to get on welfare and exploit a country?

What has surprised us is those often benefiting from the welfare state do not want more people getting it, because they are very aware how privileged it is and how there are billions who do not have anything. Riches have a deceptive ability to make us feel we deserve this rather than it is a blessing to be shared.

One good example of attempted sharing was the amount spent in Afghanistan to try and address social and structural issues, that ended in failure because the people could not accept the message and literally wasted all the effort. You think of Germany and Japan after the war prospered because they understood the real gift and opportunity given to them. So all this is so complicated, like Pakistan and Israel, one a failure the other a stunning success.

God bless you
 

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I have heard this argument before. Often immigrants are here because they are prepared to take risks, and anything is better than the life they had in the country they are coming from. To survive in the black economy often means they have to work very hard, because nothing is easy.

In the UK it was the immigrants who were doing the jobs that locals did not want to do, which were often difficult, back breaking and with little pay. Without official documentation how are they able to get on welfare and exploit a country?

What has surprised us is those often benefiting from the welfare state do not want more people getting it, because they are very aware how privileged it is and how there are billions who do not have anything. Riches have a deceptive ability to make us feel we deserve this rather than it is a blessing to be shared.

One good example of attempted sharing was the amount spent in Afghanistan to try and address social and structural issues, that ended in failure because the people could not accept the message and literally wasted all the effort. You think of Germany and Japan after the war prospered because they understood the real gift and opportunity given to them. So all this is so complicated, like Pakistan and Israel, one a failure the other a stunning success.

God bless you
Illegals don’t belong here.
 
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Illegals don’t belong here.

You will never get rid of them, just make it harder or easier to cope.
The problem with idealism, is people will always compromise and find ways around, adapt, feel and work through issues.

Prisons are to deter folk who need guidance and keep the most difficult cases out of society.
But it will never catch everyone or resolve all issues, but it will limit and control things.

It is the same with drugs. Alcohol is bad in excess, it cannot be banned but it can be tamed and limited.
The tragedy is it takes time to recover people and those who fall into the trap have deeper issues.
A society has to wake up to the fact we need to face the truth.
It was found for instance counselling for those depressed and seriously not coping cut suicides by 90%.

Illegal immigrants are a symptom of a economic system failing. Provide real help in simple ways, and things
change. We know better now than ever before how economies work and how work focusses lives, let us improve upon this.
Where is the transforming vision of hope in family, in marriage, in communities, in church?

We are people of our Fathers Kingdom committed to bring His will to this earth.
The law bring condemnation and death, but the Spirit of grace brings life and hope.

God bless you
 

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You will never get rid of them, just make it harder or easier to cope.
The problem with idealism, is people will always compromise and find ways around, adapt, feel and work through issues.

Prisons are to deter folk who need guidance and keep the most difficult cases out of society.
But it will never catch everyone or resolve all issues, but it will limit and control things.

It is the same with drugs. Alcohol is bad in excess, it cannot be banned but it can be tamed and limited.
The tragedy is it takes time to recover people and those who fall into the trap have deeper issues.
A society has to wake up to the fact we need to face the truth.
It was found for instance counselling for those depressed and seriously not coping cut suicides by 90%.

Illegal immigrants are a symptom of a economic system failing. Provide real help in simple ways, and things
change. We know better now than ever before how economies work and how work focusses lives, let us improve upon this.
Where is the transforming vision of hope in family, in marriage, in communities, in church?

We are people of our Fathers Kingdom committed to bring His will to this earth.
The law bring condemnation and death, but the Spirit of grace brings life and hope.

God bless you
Their own governments need to help them instead of being so corrupt, I guarantee if President Trump were still President those walls would've been finished being built and he would've cut illegal immigration drastically.
 

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Their own governments need to help them instead of being so corrupt, I guarantee if President Trump were still President those walls would've been finished being built and he would've cut illegal immigration drastically.

As individuals how can we stop a government from being corrupt?
The debate about how you get institutions that work, is an important issue.
Helping countries to not become victims of drug gangs is an important step.

Blaming people for wanting to find a way out of a situation they are born into will not resolve the issues.

Part of the democratic empire, is common agreement that consensus politics works alongside good education and good institutions.
Most of all providing resources for a reasonable life, which is the fruit of such things is our backbone.

We are an oil based system at the moment, and with peak oil already passed we need to move to another system in the next 50 years.

It is always easier to complain and say its the consequences of the problem are the issue, and we should just put up a stronger fence.
Jesus called us to love our enemies, because often the very problems that are badly affecting others, are soon going to be affecting us unless we can solve their root causes.
 

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As individuals how can we stop a government from being corrupt?
The debate about how you get institutions that work, is an important issue.
Helping countries to not become victims of drug gangs is an important step.

Blaming people for wanting to find a way out of a situation they are born into will not resolve the issues.

Part of the democratic empire, is common agreement that consensus politics works alongside good education and good institutions.
Most of all providing resources for a reasonable life, which is the fruit of such things is our backbone.

We are an oil based system at the moment, and with peak oil already passed we need to move to another system in the next 50 years.

It is always easier to complain and say its the consequences of the problem are the issue, and we should just put up a stronger fence.
Jesus called us to love our enemies, because often the very problems that are badly affecting others, are soon going to be affecting us unless we can solve their root causes.
Not our problem we have our own to take care of.
 

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Not our problem we have our own to take care of.
The Lord showed in Israel he takes care of both.

If one is the richest country in the world, when in this position things turn inward, then perspective has been lost and wealth is destroying ones soul.

It seems a vision has been lost, that will conquer the unknown and lay a path to follow.
By Gods grace may He give us this path to help those less fortunate than ourselves.

God bless you
 

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The Lord showed in Israel he takes care of both.

If one is the richest country in the world, when in this position things turn inward, then perspective has been lost and wealth is destroying ones soul.

It seems a vision has been lost, that will conquer the unknown and lay a path to follow.
By Gods grace may He give us this path to help those less fortunate than ourselves.

God bless you
I always help those less fortunate than me when I come across one, I am not cold hearted, but laws have to be followed or society falls into chaos.
 
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I always help those less fortunate than me when I come across one, I am not cold hearted, but laws have to be followed or society falls into chaos.

This is an interesting point. Laws are actually made to distinguish between those who do need correction or dealing with and innocents. The question then becomes to the society is what do they enforce and how this is done.

It is easy to say here is a law, but how it is implemented is critical to its value and success.
A simple for instance is censorship and pornography, or prostitution or drug abuse.
The laws on this are very flaky and the problem so large, put simply there are not enough prisons or police to enforce.

Immigration is such an example. The actual way it is managed is by under manning the forces involved.
The soviet union in Berlin used a wire fence with machine guns and literally shot anyone they saw breaking the rules.

Another way of dealing with it is citizen ID cards, where each citizen is identified and checkable.
Another way is monitoring everyone with facial recognition and then dealing with people this way.

But if you truly want control, this is the road to walk. But it compromises other freedoms and enables the government to know and exercise influence in ways currently not done. And with a database any group could get the data and miss use it.

So though you express the concept of either immigration must be followed or it is chaos. But this is not that clear cut, and truly to make this the highest priority I am sure you will back off. So the truth is much more subtle and compromised.

God bless you
 
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Satan is DECEPTIVE. Dems are clearly Satanic. It's a ploy of Satan to distract from the many Republicans in government who are as bad or worse. "Christians" are so gullible to think Republicans are not Satanic.
 

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This is an interesting point. Laws are actually made to distinguish between those who do not need correction or dealing with and innocents. The question then becomes to the society is what do they enforce and how this is done.

It is easy to say here is a law, but how it is implemented is critical to its value and success.
A simple for instance is censorship and pornography, or prostitution or drug abuse.
The laws on this are very flaky and the problem so large, put simply there are not enough prisons or police to enforce.

Immigration is such an example. The actual way it is managed is by under manning the forces involved.
The soviet union in Berlin used a wire fence with machine guns and literally shot anyone they saw breaking the rules.

Another way of dealing with it is citizen ID cards, where each citizen is identified and checkable.
Another way is monitoring everyone with facial recognition and then dealing with people this way.

But if you truly want control, this is the road to walk. But it compromises other freedoms and enables the government to know and exercise influence in ways currently not done. And with a database any group could get the data and miss use it.

So though you express the concept of either immigration must be followed or it is chaos. But this is not that clear cut, and truly to make this the highest priority I am sure you will back off. So the truth is much more subtle and compromised.

God bless you

The question that was raised in this post is: -

Who is responsible for enforcing the "Laws" of the land?

What we have in government is a pharisee's approach. If something is not working right, add more laws to the situation to help make it right.
 

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The question that was raised in this post is: -

Who is responsible for enforcing the "Laws" of the land?

What we have in government is a pharisee's approach. If something is not working right, add more laws to the situation to help make it right.
In America it's the Supreme Court's job is to interpret the Constitution and determine the Supreme Law of the Land, the Executive Branch is responsible for enforcing the laws.
 
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Illegals don’t belong here.

There is a problem with that theory...The US has a need for 1 million more engineers each and every year. The US isn't graduating them .. .Why? Because we've dumbed down the population so much, we have become a shining example of the repeat of Rome. In the end, Rome used mercenaries to fight their wars for them. Used engineers from foreign countries...

Ceasar Augustas made a speech to Roman men. In that speech he blamed the trend toward not increasing the population due to abortion, the trend to homosexuality and the downhill trend of wives now without husbands .....Rome fell ...Augustas was right ...

Instead of being steadfast with the education of future leaders, scientists, engineers and Doctors ....we offer excuses.....New York University the latest example ....Organics Chemistry Professor fired because the students thought his tests were too hard. I gues anything after sign your name is too much of a tack to overcome.

We need what Trump called for ....... Professionals .....not the refuge of society ....We've got too much of that already because we refuse to teach and train.
 
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There is a problem with that theory...The US has a need for 1 million more engineers each and every year. The US isn't graduating them .. .Why? Because we've dumbed down the population so much, we have become a shining example of the repeat of Rome. In the end, Rome used mercenaries to fight their wars for them. Used engineers from foreign countries...

Ceasar Augustas made a speech to Roman men. In that speech he blamed the trend toward not increasing the population due to abortion, the trend to homosexuality and the downhill trend of wives now without husbands .....Rome fell ...Augustas was right ...

Instead of being steadfast with the education of future leaders, scientists, engineers and Doctors ....we offer excuses.....New York University the latest example ....Organics Chemistry Professor fired because the students thought his tests were too hard. I gues anything after sign your name is too much of a tack to overcome.

We need what Trump called for ....... Professionals .....not the refuge of society ....We've got too much of that already because we refuse to teach and train.
And what are we letting in, Engineers or criminals and drug dealers and people connected to the cartels doing their bidding for them once they step on US soil? Who in turn exploit the American system not dream by getting on welfare and other Government assistance, becoming a burden on American society and it's law abiding Citizens.
 
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WE have allowed the left to create this myth. Nancy Pelosi shoots off her uninformed mouth, declaring that we need farm workers in Florida. There are mulriple ways to argue against her half baked comment. The green card migratory farm worker program has worked well for Floida for decades. Why exactly do we need more farm workers? Your half baked green new deal programs have driven up the cost of production and stopped the shipments of needed fertilzers necessary to expand production for harvest? Less production means we don't need your illiterate, unskilled labor in the marketplace .....What are you going to feed them with?

Why Engineers? They won't be coming from Latin America .....Because the left has destroyed the education system in the US.
 
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WE have allowed the left to create this myth. Nancy Pelosi shoots off her uninformed mouth, declaring that we need farm workers in Florida. There are mulriple ways to argue against her half baked comment. The green card migratory farm worker program has worked well for Floida for decades. Why exactly do we need more farm workers? Your half baked green new deal programs have driven up the cost of production and stopped the shipments of needed fertilzers necessary to expand production for harvest? Less production means we don't need your illiterate, unskilled labor in the marketplace .....What are you going to feed them with?

Why Engineers? They won't be coming from Latin America .....Because the left has destroyed the education system in the US.
Your post makes no sense, we won’t be getting any engineers from South America because the U.S. has destroyed the education system? South America is not part of the U.S. different continent different countries not linked to the United States of America at all.