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Josho

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Only a very few Liberal members under Turnbull's government stood up for traditional marriage.

Scott Morrison walked out during the vote though.

If it weren't for Scomo, most Christians would have had to end up voting for minor parties and the few conservative Liberal MPs that were left.
 

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I do remember how much they smeared them on the Herald Sun though, they copped a smacking for the Carbon tax.

Don't think the Gonski was too popular either, I could be wrong though. My biggest concern when Julia was PM, was that school years were gonna be extended or she would make school tougher, as she was the former Labor education minister after all. hahahahha

I don't think any party has grasped the truth that money does not buy educational results. The people behind that furphy is the Education Unions who stand to gain every time more money is tossed into the ring.

In the UK the most successful school in the country and it was not Eton, was a private school in Somerset. The classrooms were Nissan huts left over from the second world war. The secret of their success was one teacher to every three students. If the State system wants to improve results the answer is simple. Get rid of all the mickey mouse subjects and change the teacher/student ratio.

In one school I taught, I had one class of five students. It was a catholic school. I could not get away with anything, not only because I had the dux of the school and the school captain in the class, I could not hide behind nondescript answers to their questions. Because they were on the ball I had to be on the ball. Fortunately, it was a subject I loved and knew inside out so they never asked me a question I did not know the answer to.

If the class had 25 students the outcome would have been different.
 
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I don't think any party has grasped the truth that money does not buy educational results. The people behind that furphy is the Education Unions who stand to gain every time more money is tossed into the ring.

In the UK the most successful school in the country and it was not Eton, was a private school in Somerset. The classrooms were Nissan huts left over from the second world war. The secret of their success was one teacher to every three students. If the State system wants to improve results the answer is simple. Get rid of all the mickey mouse subjects and change the teacher/student ratio.

In one school I taught, I had one class of five students. It was a catholic school. I could not get away with anything, not only because I had the dux of the school and the school captain in the class, I could not hide behind nondescript answers to their questions. Because they were on the ball I had to be on the ball. Fortunately, it was a subject I loved and knew inside out so they never asked me a question I did not know the answer to.

If the class had 25 students the outcome would have been different.

Yep, you only have to look at Vic Labor party's so called "record funding" for education.
 

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Only a very few Liberal members under Turnbull's government stood up for traditional marriage.

Scott Morrison walked out during the vote though.

As I understand it because the subject was so volatile and the homosexuals spent millions pushing their barrow, the general consensus was they would vote the same way as the voters in the electorate. And at the time, homosexuals were given more consideration than the general populace. it was virtually against the law to say anything negative about homosexuals and homosexuality.

It is interesting to note that the electorates in Western Sydney voted against same-sex marriage because of the Muslim populations, but their Labor members had to vote for it because that was Labor policy. So much for voting the same way as their electorate.

I am one of the lucky ones who ignored the voters as my MP voted against it. He is a Christian and what God said was more important to him than what the voters said.

The truth is, however, that same-sex marriage was not voted in by a majority. It was voted in by a majority who voted and when you divide that by the total population including those who did not vote which is how it should have been calibrated, only 46% voted for same-sex marriage so in fact the vote was lost.

I wrote to the media and Turnbull and told them that but of course, they ignored the fact because they were in support of legalizing same-sex marriage.

So the vote was a sham and same-sex marriage is a sham.

Apart from the fact, more homosexuals were not interested in marriage than those who were. It was mainly a stepping stone to gain acceptance as normal so they could demand all sorts of other things which they have been doing since. In the USA there is a move to make homosexual paedophilia legal.
 

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I agree. I don't think there are any neutral media outlets. The bias that each network has is something that not many people are aware of.
No outlet is perfectly neutral for sure, but that doesn't mean they're therefore all biased to the same degree. Some are close to being neutral, some are somewhat biased, and others are extremely biased.

I'll often see one narrative from Fox and another from CNN. I take it with a pinch of salt, the truth usually lays somewhere in between.
So it's good to know which channels are batting for who
There was a study done a while ago and it found that Fox News viewers were more misinformed than people who didn't watch news at all. The important part was that they were misinformed, not uninformed.

Even though I'm fairly liberal, much of the news I watch and listen to is from the right. A good example of the sort of misinformation I see from places like Fox News and right-wing talk radio has to do with the economy and the Obama administration (sorry if this gets too US-centric). The version of history those outlets imply is that Obama ruined the economy and Trump turned it around. Of course the reality is that Obama took over an economy that was in severe recession and was losing jobs at the end of the W. Bush administration, and turned it around to sustained growth and job gains. Trump came in as that growth and those job gains were ongoing and adopted the right-wing version of reality and claimed he rescued a failing Obama economy.

Journalism wasn't always like this apart from war time propaganda.
I wonder how political ideologies became the main focus of networks. Do u know cos I don't.
I have a feeling it involves large sums of money, but from who
IMO it's mostly about the emergence of cable news and now, the internet. Before the major news outlets had to speak to everyone, because there was only 3 or 4 of them. But now they can speak to very specific groups and target their message towards what they want to hear. And it obviously works, and as you note, makes them lots of money.
 

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No outlet is perfectly neutral for sure, but that doesn't mean they're therefore all biased to the same degree. Some are close to being neutral, some are somewhat biased, and others are extremely biased.

I came across these, media bias charts. Have u seen them b4? There r heaps of them in google images but i'll just put up 2
I had a look at the Aussie one and thought it was skewed
But these 2 are American so tell me what u think

AllSidesMediaBiasChart_Version1.1_11.18.19_0.jpg


Does that look about right?
This next one is more detailed. It's got up and down. Have a look, you'll work it out

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What is CNN doing in the middle there on its own... Hahahaha, cmon now, that's not right


It reminds me of a questionnaire that determines where u sit on the political spectrum
They put me about a quarter of the way to the right and an eighth of the way down (libertarian) which is about where i would put myself
I did it a while back but. I rushed through it and didn't take it seriously so im doing it again seeing i have time on my hands

This is the website anyway if u feel like having a look
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
 

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I came across these, media bias charts.
What is really puzzling is how those Leftist reporters are not sick of themselves, since they spew lies daily. One would think that after their Leftist bias and hypocrisy has been exposed, they would be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and become real journalists. But no, they go from bad to worse, and now they have become stooges of Communist China. And not a word of apology for all their false accusations and Fake News.
 

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I came across these, media bias charts. Have u seen them b4? There r heaps of them in google images but i'll just put up 2
I had a look at the Aussie one and thought it was skewed
But these 2 are American so tell me what u think

AllSidesMediaBiasChart_Version1.1_11.18.19_0.jpg


Does that look about right?
This next one is more detailed. It's got up and down. Have a look, you'll work it out

152.o1.jpg


What is CNN doing in the middle there on its own... Hahahaha, cmon now, that's not right
They seem about right. I might quibble over a couple of placements, but that's probably my own bias kicking in.

It reminds me of a questionnaire that determines where u sit on the political spectrum
They put me about a quarter of the way to the right and an eighth of the way down (libertarian) which is about where i would put myself
I did it a while back but. I rushed through it and didn't take it seriously so im doing it again seeing i have time on my hands

This is the website anyway if u feel like having a look
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Yep, I've taken that. If I'm remembering correctly, I think I was in the bottom left quadrant, probably because while I have liberal views, I also believe in personal freedoms.
 

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What is really puzzling is how those Leftist reporters are not sick of themselves, since they spew lies daily. One would think that after their Leftist bias and hypocrisy has been exposed, they would be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and become real journalists. But no, they go from bad to worse, and now they have become stooges of Communist China. And not a word of apology for all their false accusations and Fake News.

True. I find the right wing outlets will usually correct themselves if something is incorrectly reported.
If these journalists were lied to by the dems for 4 years bout this collusion then they should be upset about it. But they aren't, they knew all along. Instead they are saying that this is just to divert from "Trumps covid crisis" still trying to say that the collusion was true.

Everyone should be looking at China. If the biggest country in the world won't do anything then someone else will... The Aussies
Down here its the current topic. The nations relationship with China is even greater than the states.
Our leader is leading the world to push for an independent inquiry. He said his written to many world leaders asking for support

In response China has ceased buying meat from Australia and put tariffs on our barley.
Some people say "shh, we need this business, it supports too many people with jobs and our economy and GDP" Thats being greedy.
By cutting ties with China we bring back all our old industries, creating way more jobs

Australia has sold its soul to the devil in the last 20 years. Its time to bring it back.
Im calling for a trade war with them. Sanctions.
 
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No outlet is perfectly neutral for sure, but that doesn't mean they're therefore all biased to the same degree. Some are close to being neutral, some are somewhat biased, and others are extremely biased.


There was a study done a while ago and it found that Fox News viewers were more misinformed than people who didn't watch news at all. The important part was that they were misinformed, not uninformed.

Even though I'm fairly liberal, much of the news I watch and listen to is from the right. A good example of the sort of misinformation I see from places like Fox News and right-wing talk radio has to do with the economy and the Obama administration (sorry if this gets too US-centric). The version of history those outlets imply is that Obama ruined the economy and Trump turned it around. Of course the reality is that Obama took over an economy that was in severe recession and was losing jobs at the end of the W. Bush administration, and turned it around to sustained growth and job gains. Trump came in as that growth and those job gains were ongoing and adopted the right-wing version of reality and claimed he rescued a failing Obama economy.


IMO it's mostly about the emergence of cable news and now, the internet. Before the major news outlets had to speak to everyone, because there was only 3 or 4 of them. But now they can speak to very specific groups and target their message towards what they want to hear. And it obviously works, and as you note, makes them lots of money.

Targeting your news to specific groups means that you have to be biased to satisfy your customers.
 

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I came across these, media bias charts. Have u seen them b4? There r heaps of them in google images but i'll just put up 2
I had a look at the Aussie one and thought it was skewed
But these 2 are American so tell me what u think

AllSidesMediaBiasChart_Version1.1_11.18.19_0.jpg


Does that look about right?
This next one is more detailed. It's got up and down. Have a look, you'll work it out

152.o1.jpg


What is CNN doing in the middle there on its own... Hahahaha, cmon now, that's not right


It reminds me of a questionnaire that determines where u sit on the political spectrum
They put me about a quarter of the way to the right and an eighth of the way down (libertarian) which is about where i would put myself
I did it a while back but. I rushed through it and didn't take it seriously so im doing it again seeing i have time on my hands

This is the website anyway if u feel like having a look
The Political Compass
Your signature at the bottom is 100% true.
 
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Your signature at the bottom is 100% true.

Well so is yours... Mine is a quote from George Orwell.
A bit of a visionary of his time. People often draw comparisons between his world in that book 1984 and our world.
The quote below is almost Jesus-like. I see it happening a lot these days
 

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Well so is yours... Mine is a quote from George Orwell.
A bit of a visionary of his time. People often draw comparisons between his world in that book 1984 and our world.
The quote below is almost Jesus-like. I see it happening a lot these days
Yes, they haven't got with the reality yet that what they consider is hate speech is in fact speech they hate because it is the truth.
 
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What is really puzzling is how those Leftist reporters are not sick of themselves, since they spew lies daily. One would think that after their Leftist bias and hypocrisy has been exposed, they would be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and become real journalists. But no, they go from bad to worse, and now they have become stooges of Communist China. And not a word of apology for all their false accusations and Fake News.

I think the real problem Enoch is that they do not believe that they are lies.
 
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Ye that's why u took notice cos u were at school... LoL...
Gillard was too much of an ideologue. She started the smear campaign against Tony Abbott when she gave this stupid speech in parliament accusing him of being a misogynist. Totally unfounded, the man has a wife and three daughters so it was really a ludicrous accusation
Feminism doesn't belong in parliament
I seen the atheist once Communist, but was reformed Socialist :rolleyes: clown Gillard, back down on that Misogynist dribble when the interviewer confronted her on that point. You don't really believe that he truly is a misogynist do you ? She said something like this. well, are oh are oh well no, oh no ! (smile) well not in the original context of what dictionary defined as such ? but in the Socialist todays definition scope ? basically that was what she said, so their you go Socialist definitions are used in this Satanic war they are peddling. they undermine everything and twist what ever that they can. Sounds just like the protocols that the Nazi media used, not to mention all Communist media used. what do you expect from Satanist ! they are engaged in waging warfare like this for many years. They are engaging in bastardisation of everything, starting with Family unit that is under attack. it's all been done in a fabian way, slowly and with the art of military like precision to get to their objective, not to mention within such they need to attract enough useful brainwashed idiots in such deals. just as they have ways of making people talk they also have ways of making the people do as they demand. Political Correctness is an art form in it's self that can destroy all who it sets out to, Hitler proved that and all the Communist used such tactics, if anyone has ever bothered to look into such history to understand why such paned out the way that it did you would understand the nature of such a beast.
We are set to become Communist and when they get total control they will kill more people in history by the billons, they are brilliant masters of killing people. lets say Climate Change is claimed to be man made ? ok a communist leader could wave his hand and half the world is wiped out and who is going to say Peep back.
 
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Only a very few Liberal members under Turnbull's government stood up for traditional marriage.

Scott Morrison walked out during the vote though.
Turnbull demanded that the only thing about this gay marriage was about was one thing and one thing only and that was the only point and noting but the point, That anyone can get married if they want to. but that is not in fact true at all, because as to the Law such is all changed.
So Turnbull was a complete uneducated fool on the subject or pissing into the wind.

Turnbull was so enraged at one of his Senators and rejected any debate on the subject in depth and only wanted to rush the vote past into Law in a flash before the people woke up to what the Satanist were truly doing. Satanist Turnbull tried to kick Senator out and the ALP Leader Shorten was like a savage dog with rabies ranting like a totally possessed moron at the South Australia Senator, I thought that Shorten was going to bite him if he ever got off the leash.

How many stupid deals have we had pushed through over the years and had the government running around in circles desperate to close the deal before any real debate could get away. Quick rush it through rush it through ! they were like a cat on a hot tin roof. or they feared to end up looking like a moron and exposed for a derelict that they are if the majority woke up to such.
Same with the debate as to becoming a Republic, they tried to push a campaign to rush it through like a total moron and most people did not have a clue as to what type of Republic system we would of got in fact, that's the cunning of the bastards that we are dealing with here ? now after they lost that they did not want any debate it's a taboo subject, because the morons do not want a educated people on such a subject, they have a tactic based war room for such an occasion and will only bring out such tactics and try to push it through in a rush job or they will have no hope at all in misleading the people.
But if they can get just that point past then they will create what ever they want and the people will have no say at all in such, I am for just leaving all as is, I hate the French system and don't want the USA system here at all. and I don't fear the UK at all, in fact I am proud of the fact we are part of the UK.
 
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