Did Jesus tell the Pharisees that they were gods? - John 10:34

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
In verse 30 Jesus said...

John 10:30 NIV
I and the Father are one.”

Doubling down on error.

By quoting a Bible verse?

 

[St. SteVen]

It's already been pointed out to you numerous times that Jesus did not correct others and that is again, ignored by you.

I'm glad someone is keeping score. - LOL

For instance, the people of Nazareth said he is the son of Joseph. No correction ... You say .... nothing.

What's to correct?
Jesus was the son of Joseph.
Call him stepfather if you like.
Doesn't negate the "father" part of stepfather.

 

[St. SteVen]

What eisegesis are you reading into the text now? Abuse of capitalization.

It makes a difference. Have you seen this topic? (shameless self-promotion) Link below.
In the NT Greek the definite article (the) is added before Law (capital L), meaning the Books of the Law, but in English the definite article (the) is added before law (in the NT Greek), meaning the actual laws, not the Books of the Law (capital L). Did I lose you? - LOL

Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

- What's the difference between the law and the Law? (capital L) - What's the difference between the law and God's law? - What's the difference between the law, God's law, and Christ's law? The law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law; four different things. Agree, or disagree? Points...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Wrangler]

That saw cuts both ways.
Can you support non-Trinitarianism without "cherry-picking", or an argument from silence?

Yes but not here.

 

[Wrangler]

St. SteVen said:
In verse 30 Jesus said...

John 10:30 NIV
I and the Father are one.”

By quoting a Bible verse?

No, by reading into it what is not there.

 

[BeyondET]

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[c]? - John 10:34 NIV

This interesting interchange between Jesus and his Jewish opponents (Pharisees?) leaves me wondering
what Jesus was trying to say about his Jewish opponents, or anyone for that matter. Seems as though Jesus answered their
blasphemy charge by saying they too were gods (sons of God), quoting Psalm 82:6 to make his point. (quoted below)

What do you make of this?
Here's the context of John 10:34

John 10:22-39 NIV
Then came the Festival of Dedication[a] at Jerusalem. It was winter,
23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade.
24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying,
“How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe.
The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,
26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish;
no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[b];
no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
30 I and the Father are one.”
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him,
32 but Jesus said to them,
“I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,”
they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[c]?
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?
Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works,
that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

Psalm 82:6 NIV
“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’

Interesting they had stones in hand yet didn't throw them and he escaped their grasp.

 

[St. SteVen]

Interesting they had stones in hand yet didn't throw them and he escaped their grasp.

That happened in his hometown as well. They wanted to throw him of a cliff. But he walked away.

Luke 4:28-30 NIV
All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this.
29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill
on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff.
30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

 

[Wick Stick]

Actually, it makes me wonder about the 82nd Psalm itself. Who are the "elohim" being judged by Elohim in verse 1?

מִזְמוֹר לְאָסָף אֱֽלֹהִים נִצָּב בַּעֲדַת־ אֵל בְּקֶרֶב אֱלֹהִים יִשְׁפֹּֽט ׃82:1

God stands in the congregation of the mighty (or 'God's congregation');
He judges among the gods.

If referring to the leaders of God's congregation (and Jesus clearly understands the Psalm this way), why does the Psalm refer to them as "gods"? If referring to lower-case "g" gods, why exhort them (if such even exist!) to rule with justice for the weak and needy? And for that matter, why is the God of Israel referred to in the plural in Hebrew anyway?

Strong's concordance has the meaning of אֱלֹהִים as:

1. (plural)
   1. rulers, judges
   2. divine ones
   3. angels
   4. gods
2. (plural intensive - singular meaning)
   1. god, goddess
   2. godlike one
   3. works or special possessions of God
   4. the (true) God
   5. God

Ancient Hebrew only has about 8000 words, so most words have several meanings.