Thank you, now I know where you got your stories of these things. If you wish, take my first question and show me how you would change it to make it sound more sincere.
Did satan fall after Adam was formed and before Eve?
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Thank you, now I know where you got your stories of these things. If you wish, take my first question and show me how you would change it to make it sound more sincere.
Jesus is the tree of life. He is the second person in the Trinity that experienced "good and evil." He is the bread of life that we eat off for our daily spiritual sustenance.
When God created the world it was very good and sin had not entered therein. So there was no need to eat off of the tree of good and evil as it was also forbidden.
Then Satan and the test came along and the rest is history.
To God Be The Glory
When God created the world it was very good and sin had not entered therein. So there was no need to eat off of the tree of good and evil as it was also forbidden.
Then Satan and the test came along and the rest is history.
To God Be The Glory
I don't read cunningly devised fables or 'stories', I read verses in the Bible.
Here is a verse teaching that Satan reincarnates...
Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."
- Satan was a mortal being that died.
- Satan was not, because again, he died
- Yet Satan is, because he ascends once again out of the Pit.
Note that the 'Pit' is the Womb...
Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."
Not in the Bible, that's for sure. Lucifer does not fall and become Satan. Only those that read cunningly devised fables believe that.
It is the other way around. Satan (Spirit) falls to become mortal, i.e. Pharaoh, Lucifer (King of Babylon), etc. That mortal being then dies...
Isaiah 14:12
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
He then goes to the Pit, which is allegory for the Womb, so that he can once again incarnate...
Isaiah 14:15
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Again, 'Hell' and 'Pit' are simply metaphors for the place in which Life is birthed from...
It's not my fault that the average Christian is so hopelessly brainwashed that they are no longer capable of taking verses literally. Cognitive Dissonance much?
Anyhow...
Here is when Satan, the Dragon, was Pharaoh...
Ezekiel 29:3
"Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself."
The King of Egypt was one of the Heads of the Dragon. Possibly the first one that formed.
Here is the King of Babylon referred to as a Dragon...
Jeremiah 51:34
"Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out."
King of Babylon is another head and incarnation of Satan. Nebuchadrezzar was turned into a Beast to show that Satan is the Beast when in Human form!
There will be a Seventh Head one day...
Ronald Nolette
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I would reject that hypothesis completely!
Remember we have no idea how long it was from the creation of Adam and Eve and the fall of Satan and then the fall of man. We tend to think that Genesis 1-3 happen rather quickly in time, but for all we know it could have been centuries.
Let me tell you what I believe:
- Satan was a mortal being that died.
- Satan was not, because again, he died
- Yet Satan is, because he ascends once again out of the Pit.
Lets talk further, but it looks like we are far apart in our theologies.
Not in the Bible, that's for sure. Lucifer does not fall and become Satan. Only those that read cunningly devised fables believe that.
It is the other way around. Satan (Spirit) falls to become mortal, i.e. Pharaoh, Lucifer (King of Babylon), etc. That mortal being then dies...
Isaiah 14:12
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
It's not my fault that the average Christian is so hopelessly brainwashed that they are no longer capable of taking verses literally. Cognitive Dissonance much?
Anyhow...
Here is when Satan, the Dragon, was Pharaoh...
Ezekiel 29:3
"Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself."
The King of Egypt was one of the Heads of the Dragon. Possibly the first one that formed.
Here is the King of Babylon referred to as a Dragon...
Jeremiah 51:34
"Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out."
King of Babylon is another head and incarnation of Satan. Nebuchadrezzar was turned into a Beast to show that Satan is the Beast when in Human form!
There will be a Seventh Head one day...
Base12 says:
This is a pretty absurd interpretation of what 'Hell' and 'Pit' refers to in the bible.
Your interpretation of scripture is highly controversial. There really are scriptures that are metaphoric, but there are scriptues that are literal. You have to have the Holy Spirit to help you with this interpretation.
Get back to the scriptures and keep it very simple. Jesus is the Son of God. He came to save men on earth from their sins and therefore allowed himself to be sacrificed once and for all to bring men who believed in him back onto the path to eternal life with God and Jesus. Pray to recieve the Holy Spirit and for the grace of Jesus and live the law of Christ (Galations 6:2) and you will be fine.
Continue to investigate your controversial subjects and you will focus your mind away from Jesus and on unimportant issues. May the Lord be with you.
Good idea. This thread needs more Cowbell.
Here is an interesting verse...
Ezekiel 28:14
"Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."
Who or what does Satan "covereth"?
Answer:
Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
What is the Seed of the Serpent? Do I have to say it?
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so...
The Seed of the Serpent is Male Seed. It is the 'Law Giver' between every Man's feet.
That is what Satan was turned into. The Seed of the Woman is the Ovum. It is the Forbidden Fruit that was inherited from Mystery Babylon.
The DNA of Satan and Mystery Babylon is our Earthly Covering...
When the average Christian finally gets off of their High Horse, they will see the horrifying Truth of what Man became when they partook in the Garden of Eden.
The Anointed Cherub that Covereth can be seen on top of the Ark of the Covenant...
The Ark of the Covenant represents the Nucleolus of the Zygote where the two Strands of DNA become One.
The Moment of Conception...
Oh, but how can this be? Cell Biology in the Bible? Advanced knowledge of Genetics?
Some of you must really think God is dumb. You believe God isn't capable of putting that kind of info in the Bible? For shame.
The Ark of the Covenant represents the Nucleolus of the Zygote where the two Strands of DNA become One.
The Moment of Conception...
Oh, but how can this be? Cell Biology in the Bible? Advanced knowledge of Genetics?
Some of you must really think God is dumb. You believe God isn't capable of putting that kind of info in the Bible? For shame.
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