Did the serpent lie about Eve would be like God, knowing good and evil

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The serpent said to the woman in Genesis 3:

5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Did the serpent lie?

The serpent's prediction was confirmed some verses later:

22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
Did the serpent actually lie by saying man will become godlike after eating the fruit?

Let's see the context, Genesis 3:

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.
This directly contradicts Genesis 2:

17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
Satan directly and formally contradicts the words of God in Genesis 3:4. So Jesus was correct when he said in John 8:

88 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Now, what about Genesis 3:

5 For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.
I'd interpret this according to the words of Jesus. According to Jesus, a lie was not just the outward words that Satan uttered. It included Satan's intention from the inside of him, from his heart if you will. He intended to get Eve to disobey God's words and rebel. It is his natural practice to lie because he is by character a liar. Liar is who he is, and lying is what he does naturally.

Did Satan tell the truth in Genesis 3:5?

No, he did not tell the whole truth. A better and deeper question is this: Was Satan a liar when he talked to Eve in Genesis 3?

Whatever partial truths Satan says at any time, he intends to deceive. He is a liar from the beginning to the end, through and through.
 

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The serpent said to the woman in Genesis 3:


Did the serpent lie?

The serpent's prediction was confirmed some verses later:


Did the serpent actually lie by saying man will become godlike after eating the fruit?

Let's see the context, Genesis 3:


This directly contradicts Genesis 2:


Satan directly and formally contradicts the words of God in Genesis 3:4. So Jesus was correct when he said in John 8:


Now, what about Genesis 3:


I'd interpret this according to the words of Jesus. According to Jesus, a lie was not just the outward words that Satan uttered. It included Satan's intention from the inside of him, from his heart if you will. He intended to get Eve to disobey God's words and rebel. It is his natural practice to lie because he is by character a liar. Liar is who he is, and lying is what he does naturally.

Did Satan tell the truth in Genesis 3:5?

No, he did not tell the whole truth. A better and deeper question is this: Was Satan a liar when he talked to Eve in Genesis 3?

Whatever partial truths Satan says at any time, he intends to deceive. He is a liar from the beginning to the end, through and through.
What Satan actually said was that by their disobedience (eating the fruit) they would not know good and evil, but decide for themselves what is good or evil. Satan was tempting man to become little gods unto themselves.
 

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The serpent said to the woman in Genesis 3:


Did the serpent lie?

The serpent's prediction was confirmed some verses later:


Did the serpent actually lie by saying man will become godlike after eating the fruit?

Let's see the context, Genesis 3:


This directly contradicts Genesis 2:


Satan directly and formally contradicts the words of God in Genesis 3:4. So Jesus was correct when he said in John 8:


Now, what about Genesis 3:


I'd interpret this according to the words of Jesus. According to Jesus, a lie was not just the outward words that Satan uttered. It included Satan's intention from the inside of him, from his heart if you will. He intended to get Eve to disobey God's words and rebel. It is his natural practice to lie because he is by character a liar. Liar is who he is, and lying is what he does naturally.

Did Satan tell the truth in Genesis 3:5?

No, he did not tell the whole truth. A better and deeper question is this: Was Satan a liar when he talked to Eve in Genesis 3?

Whatever partial truths Satan says at any time, he intends to deceive. He is a liar from the beginning to the end, through and through.
Absolutely true! Half-truths are as bad as full-blown lies, and are sometimes worse in that they deceive. Telling someone that knowing good and evil is a good thing is a lie.

Suggesting that man can know good and evil and at the same time be like God is a lie. It was never our role to be "like God" in that way at all!
 

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Was Satan a liar when he talked to Eve in Genesis 3?
I just have a question about what some may say is an assumption here.

What made you think that the serpent was Satan. Some who read the bible think it was Satan, while others don't as the record doesn't specifically identify the serpent as anything more than something God Created on day 5.

Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made (on the 5th day)
 

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What Satan actually said was that by their disobedience (eating the fruit) they would not know good and evil, but decide for themselves what is good or evil. Satan was tempting man to become little gods unto themselves.
Moses doesn't say that the serpent was Satan or that Satan was the serpent.

But it was recorded a long time later that Moses had information that the serpent was created a physical entity that didn't have to crawl on its stomach. And was created on day 5. And was more (‛ârûm) cunning, crafty, prudent, subtle than anything created on the 5th day.
 

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Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made (on the 5th day)
If the serpent, be it the male or female one, Moses didn't specify, or maybe it was both of them conspiring together, being the most cunning and crafty of God's creatures, but if it was purely one of the 2 serpents God created that engaged in conversation with Eve, then it was God Who may have to take on a bit or a lot of the blame.

God created the serpent to be crafty and cunning.

Why would he do that? Did He not realise what the consequences would be in giving them this ability?

Maybe it was as some believe, that its all about free will. God must've given the serpents free will to choose to be cunning or not be cunning.

What do you think?
 

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Moses doesn't say that the serpent was Satan or that Satan was the serpent.

But it was recorded a long time later that Moses had information that the serpent was created a physical entity that didn't have to crawl on its stomach. And was created on day 5. And was more (‛ârûm) cunning, crafty, prudent, subtle than anything created on the 5th day.

Revelation 12:9

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9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Unless you believe animals were smart and intelligent and could converse with people, the bible identifies who possessed the serpent and deceived Eve.
 

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Revelation 12:9​

King James Version​

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Unless you believe animals were smart and intelligent and could converse with people, the bible identifies who possessed the serpent and deceived Eve.
Not sure.