Did you ever wonder who...

[Willie T]

……. this Irenaeus person really was? Here are some audio videos of his famous writing, "Against Heresies." (It's only around 25½ hours.)

 

[CoreIssue]

Contrary to what Catholics claim he predated Catholicism. But he played a key role in establishing the foundation of Catholicism.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

……. this Irenaeus person really was? Here are some audio videos of his famous writing, "Against Heresies." (It's only around 25½ hours.)

25 and a half HOURS??? That is more than a day.

 

[CoreIssue]

25 and a half HOURS??? That is more than a day.

It requires a lot of dedication.

I've done it a few times on different legal matters as mayor and arbitrator. I don't remember how many times I had to do to hazing out. Often having to quit and come back later start again.

 

[Willie T]

25 and a half HOURS??? That is more than a day.

I just finished more than two months formatting the book I mentioned on another thread. Many college courses are 170 hours, or so, to graduate (minimum is 120 hours for only one little lightweight degree), and that is simply fanny-time in a classroom. Labs, papers, observation, etc can easily make that total more than 500 or 600 hours.

 

[FHII]

I'm still trying to get through Augustine.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Contrary to what Catholics claim he predated Catholicism. But he played a key role in establishing the foundation of Catholicism.

More of your typical manure . . .

First of all - Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp of Smyrna who was a student of Ignatius of Antioch, who was a student of the Apostle John. ALL of them were Catholics.

IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH about the "Catholic Church" is his Letter to the Smyrnaeans on his way to be martyred in Rome around 107 AD:
Ignatius of Antioch
Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as, wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the CATHOLIC CHURCH (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).


POLYCARP was martyred several years later - and the following document about his death attests to the CATHOLIC CHURCH:
Excerpt from The Martyrdom of Polycarp:
When finally he concluded his prayer, after remembering all who had at any time come his way – small folk and great folk, distinguished and undistinguished, and the whole CATHOLIC CHURCH throughout the world – the time for departure came. So they placed him on an ass, and brought him into the city on a great Sabbath.


In his famous treatise "Against Heresies", IRENAEUS lists all of the Popes from his own time all the way back to Peter. His arguments in this treatise are against those who deny the CATHOLIC CHURCH and its Authority:
Irenaeus
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have already said (Against Heresies 1:10 [A.D. 189]).

YOUR pathetic claims that the Catholic Church didn't start until the year 335 AD have absolutely ZERO documentation to substantiate them - yet you continue to regurgitate this nonsense.

Ummmmmmm, WHY is that??

 

[Marymog]

Contrary to what Catholics claim he predated Catholicism. But he played a key role in establishing the foundation of Catholicism.

The Church has been and always will be; just like Jesus said.

Irenaeus writings, and the writings of the Apostolic and ECF's, mirror catholic teaching soooo how does he predate Catholicism???

You really don't know your own Christian history...do you???

You

 

[Marymog]

……. this Irenaeus person really was? Here are some audio videos of his famous writing, "Against Heresies." (It's only around 25½ hours.)

I used to wonder who he was. I then read his writings along with the writings of the Apostolic Father and ECF's. After reading the earliest teachings of The Church (1st thru 3rd century) I came to realize The Church has been "Catholic" for 2,000 years.

"To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."

Historical Mary

 

[CoreIssue]

The Church has been and always will be; just like Jesus said.

Irenaeus writings, and the writings of the Apostolic and ECF's, mirror catholic teaching soooo how does he predate Catholicism???

You really don't know your own Christian history...do you???

You

Where does Christ say the church is always been?

 

[Mike Dwight]

Neckdeep in a Church rejecting John Knox, notice how his "First Blast of the Trumpet" from Revelation is Just Establishing himself and his Presbyterianism with all scholarly founders not linked to Catholicism. Augustine of Hippo included. What will tend to throw people off was, on the other hand, the neglectable theme of not liking the current Catholic women rulers. Without John Knox preaching the true identification , rejected only in the last 50 years, that the overthrow of the Pope will cause the fall of the Real AntiChrist into the Lake of Fire by his gathered around followers, and Believers, then, Presbyterians are defeating and lying on their history.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Where does Christ say the church is always been?

Are you going to address post #7, or are you just going to practice your usual cowardly hit-and-run tactics?

 

[CoreIssue]

Are you going to address post #7, or are you just going to practice your usual cowardly hit-and-run tactics?

Search your own posts to find out where you said it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Search your own posts to find out where you said it.

So, once again, your idiotic anti-historical remarks about the Catholic Church come back to bite you in the behind.

And, once again, you've exposed your ignorance . . .

 

[Mike Dwight]

For the first time ever the Pentarchy is useful history. The Bishops of 5 administrations were designated to work together for regional decisions, the bishop in Rome sometimes considered a foremost peer. We're calling that "Orthodox" or "Original", in English anyway, pretty much a death sentence! hiss! I may be the AntiPope of the Orthodox Armenian Church, you never know... I have People skills...

 

[Willie T]

For the first time ever the Pentarchy is useful history. The Bishops of 5 administrations were designated to work together for regional decisions, the bishop in Rome sometimes considered a foremost peer. We're calling that "Orthodox" or "Original", in English anyway, pretty much a death sentence! hiss! I may be the AntiPope of the Orthodox Armenian Church, you never know... I have People skills...

LOL

 

[Mike Dwight]

Well I do, but this guy is in the way.
▒▒ The Presbyterian Church of Korea ▒▒

My question is, how would He Feel, if "I" had a daughter Church planted in near His mother church. Victory is Mine for Jesus Dr. Choi Ki Hak. US Abroad Churches will push Koreans back into the Japanese sea, onto Dokdo owned and rented by Japan ,there will be SO many abroad Churches for americans, IN korea. The other arm of this plan involves lying. We say Korea really belongs to America, we all learn in native English, and I'm the true Korean that takes over as 103rd moderator. "segregation is the only way two institutions will be equal to government" nice Try Dr. Choi, we will all soon learn from Universal Michigan Catholocism. Keep practicing your letters. Elizabethan slave-countries make Reformed religion look good for England which English people convert to sometimes as well.

 

[Marymog]

Where does Christ say the church is always been?

I love bible study. I feel sad for you that you don't even know what passage's from scripture show that Jesus said the Church, His Church, will always be.

I will gladly answer your question once you answer mine: Irenaeus writings, and the writings of the Apostolic and ECF's, mirror catholic teaching soooo how does he predate Catholicism???

Patient Mary

 

[Marymog]

Are you going to address post #7, or are you just going to practice your usual cowardly hit-and-run tactics?

I am guessing he will stay with hit and run tactics..... @CoreIssue dodged my question in post #10 also

 

[bbyrd009]

I'm still trying to get through Augustine.

through, or over?
lol