Dinosaurs

[WWJD1337]

I recently spoke to somebody who does not believe that dinosaurs ever existed. They said that Lucifer himself put the bones under the earth to fool good wholesome folk like myself. Is this a common belief? I had never heard of it before the other day at our sunday box social. Is it a sin that I believe that dinosaurs were real?

 

[Lunar]

I don't think that is a common belief, no. I think that the two most common beliefs are to think that dinosaurs existed but date them only several thousand years old (the young-earth creationist view), or to believe that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, many years before humans. The young-earth creationist can point to some passages in scripture that they would argue is referring to dinosaurs living alongside humans, but I've never heard anyone say that dinosaurs themselves were a lie.

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

Dinosaur in Latin Terrible Lizard. Millions of years old. No sin cause they existed. Unlike other debates this one has a scientific foundation "fossil bones" Satan had nothing to do with the dinosaur existence. Ridiculous accusation if you ask me. I guess the next thing will be the moon is made out of green cheese or something.

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

I don't agree with abortion. You ask about dinosaurs...

 

[horsecamp]

(Two;36144)
Dinosaur in Latin Terrible Lizard. Millions of years old. No sin cause they existed. Unlike other debates this one has a scientific foundation "fossil bones" Satan had nothing to do with the dinosaur existence. Ridiculous accusation if you ask me. I guess the next thing will be the moon is made out of green cheese or something.
are you evoloutionist or did you mistakingly use their lingomillions of years old ?

 

[horsecamp]

(WWJD1337;36127)
I recently spoke to somebody who does not believe that dinosaurs ever existed. They said that Lucifer himself put the bones under the earth to fool good wholesome folk like myself. Is this a common belief? I had never heard of it before the other day at our sunday box social. Is it a sin that I believe that dinosaurs were real?
Dinosauris in the biblehttp://www.lutheranscience.org/2000-DinosaursInBible1.html

 

[Grape]

Isn't the Behemoth usually seen as an elephant or a hippopotamus? And the Leviathan as a crocodile?The descriptions fit very well to both animals.Even if the Behemoth and the Leviathan is dinosaurs, isn't it strange that they compressed all the dinosaurs into two categories? (a sealiving predator and a landliving "vegosaurus"?) Where are my T-Rex!?!

 

[Wakka]

Here is your answer.
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[Jerusalem Junkie]

(horsecamp;36224)
Dinosauris in the biblehttp://www.lutheranscience.org/2000-DinosaursInBible1.html
Thats right I said millions. Bones are evidence. Thats the most ridiculous and outrageous most goofy thing I have read in my life. Do you find fault with everything? Or you just got nothing better to do?

 

[Wakka]

(Two;37661)
Thats right I said millions. Bones are evidence.
You don't have to believe in an old earth. There is science that supports a young earth.But since the age of the earth isn't essential to salvation, it doesn't really matter.FYI, I'm a young earth believer.

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

Young earth, old earth they existed period. Man I don't believe I am hearing this stuff.
essential to salvation, it doesn't really matter.
I agree there your right about that.

 

[Grape]

(Wakka;37664)
You don't have to believe in an old earth. There is science that supports a young earth.But since the age of the earth isn't essential to salvation, it doesn't really matter.FYI, I'm a young earth believer.
There are no credible science that supports the Young Earth Theory.If you have come up with some, please show me.

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

(Grape;38112)
There are no credible science that supports the Young Earth Theory.If you have come up with some, please show me.
Agreed..............

 

[Wayne Murray]

There are 3 heaven and earth ages, same heaven and earth but different ages.(II Pet.3:5-7) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >THE WORLD THAT THEN WAS(Gen.1:1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.To that earth age the world that then was, belongs all fossils and remains. Scientific estimates or guesses; universe or heavens 20 billion years old, earth 4.6 billion years old, moon 200 to 300 million years younger than earth, dinosaur extinction 65 million years ago, Ice Age 2.5 million years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >BEING OVERFLOWED WITH WATER PERISHED(Gen.1:2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. The first word “was” (hayah) in Hebrew, was not distinguished by the Revisers, that is the verb “to be” from “to become”. The same Hebrew word “hayah” is translated “became” in Gen.2:7. WITHOUT FORM H8414 tohu (to'-hoo) From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: - confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.VOID H922 bohu (bo'-hoo) From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: - emptiness, void.(GEN.1:2) AND THE EARTH BECAME DESOLATE AND EMPTYEarth was not created that way but became desolate and empty due to Satan’s rebellion. A global overflowing of water, but not Noah’s deluge. Darkness was upon the (face) of the deep, in other words the whole earth.Into this we can read; dinosaur extinction, destruction of Atlantis, breakup of Gondwana Land, and the Ice Age. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH WHICH ARE NOW(Gen.1:2) And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.(Gen.1:3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. About 63 A.D. Peter writes, the heavens and the earth which are now. The heaven and earth age we are in now, today.BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORERESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENTAND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MENPERDITION G684 apoleia (ap-o'-li-a) From a presumed derivative of G622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal): - damnable (-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste.Some will perish eternally and not see the third heaven and earth age.

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

Dinosaurs were the dominant vertebrate animals of the terrestrial ecosystems for over 160 million years, from the late Triassic period (about 230 million years ago to the end of the Cretaceous period (65 million years ago).
WikipediaThis would indicate that they existed long before that some 160 million years until the Late Triassic period 230 million years later, I would assume that the 65 million years you are referring to is the Cretaceous which ended around that time frame. Its evident from research that the dinosaurs were a force to be reckoned with long before they were wiped out. And as far as the New Earth Old Earth junk who came up with that? Only one earth right? Last time I checked it was. There is hard scientific evidence for the dinosaurs existence no matter how hard evolutionist or who ever try to divert their existence to so called.....................

 

[Elf]

(WWJD1337;36127)
I recently spoke to somebody who does not believe that dinosaurs ever existed. They said that Lucifer himself put the bones under the earth to fool good wholesome folk like myself. Is this a common belief? I had never heard of it before the other day at our sunday box social. Is it a sin that I believe that dinosaurs were real?
No it is not a sin. And evolution had its moments, here is proof:

 

[Christina]

I happen to belief the bible supports a earth that is millions of years old it doesnt support evoulution it was created but just as 2 Peter says the earth was before, There are earth ages, same earth but 3 differnt different ages.(II Pet.3:5-7) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (some will tell you this is Noahs flood it is not No one is ignorant of the flood and it had nothing to do with heavens )(6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. Just as Wayne has explained above Same earth three ages the first age is clearer in Hebrew. it saysthe eath became void and without form this earth age starts in Genesis 1:3 and goes until Rev. when God says he will melt the elements (rudiments) and make a New heaven and new earth that will begin the third earth age this belief is called the gap theroy if anyone wants to look it upDinosurs are from the first earth age thats why they are millions of years old Denver did a study on this if you want to check out the Hebrew[url="http://www.christianityboard.com/earth-ages-bible-study-t79.html]http://www.christianityboard.com/earth-age...-study-t79.html[/url]

 

[Elf]

(kriss;43783)
I happen to belief the bible supports a earth that is millions of years old it doesnt support evoulution it was created but just as 2 Peter says the earth was before, There are earth ages, same heaven and earth but different ages.(II Pet.3:5-7) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. Just as Wayne has explained above Same earth three ages the first age is clearer in Hebrew. it saysthe eath became void and without form this earth age starts in Genesis 1:3 and goes until Rev. when God says he will melt the elements (rudiments) and make a New heaven and new earth that will begin the third earth age this belief is called the gap theroy if anyone wants to look it upDinosurs are from the first earth age thats why they are millions of years old
I believe there were Dinosurs also, Hey, there is proof. Gap theory? I am not sure I believe this, this is another area where I am walking the fence. I have a good understanding on what the gap theory is (My pastor believes along this line) Myself, I lean a little more towards a literal "6" day creation, but am not totally convinced. With both theory's I have questions.

 

[Christina]

Well I'll be the first one to say that science is often wrong but when it starts to get into the age of the earth you have to be pretty foolish to believe that all science astronomy, archaeology, geology ect. is all wrong at some point we have to look to ourselves when you have to say everyone but us is wrong when there is evidence to prove otherwiseThis was my thought I began to research and understand this more and the Hebrew helped but 2 Peter when rightly understood tells us this mystery I do not normally recommend the Wyclff Bible but it does a good Job of translating these verses 5 But it is hid from them willing this thing, that heavens were before, and the earth of water was standing by water, by God's word [that heavens were first, and the earth of water and by water being, or standing, together by God's word]; This is a good translation this was hid and the heavens prove this was not Noah's flood as some claim 6 by which [things] that same world cleansed, then by water perished. 7 But the heavens that now be, and the earth, be kept by the same word, and be reserved to fire into the day of doom and perdition of wicked men. [Forsooth the heavens that now be, and the earth, by the same word put again, be kept to fire into the day of doom and perdition of unpious men.] This world age has always been destined to be destroyed by fire I also believe that the creation week was 7000 years long not 7 days as Gods days are 1000 years to man and he started the week with no heavens without a moon and sun there could not be a 24 hour day Its also interesting that the oldest human bones (modern man) are 8000 years old making this scenerio line up exactly with science.So my conclusion is Gods Word and science line up perfectly no eveution Just Gods creation 8 But, ye most dear, this one thing be not hid to you [be not unknown], that one day with God is as a thousand years, and a thousand years be as one day [and a thousand years as one day].this verse sounds confusing but it says the same thing frontwards and backwards one day with God is as 1000 years to manits the same as saying 1 day=24 hours or 24 hours=1 day they are the same

 

[Christina]

It is very clear God intends to destroy this age and where there is presedent or type there is reason to conclude it happened before there is nothing new under the sun 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Notice he burns the rudiment(elements) and makes a new heaven and earth He destroyed it before and will do it againI do not get why Christains have such a hard time believing this it changes nothing except makes God more awesome