Distinctions Of God's TWO Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!

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Precious friends:

The first 19 'distinctions' of prophecy vs Mystery are here:

probably more… But, considering all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only One gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached The Exact Same thing"?:

Update:

Prophecy / Covenants / Law { earthly! }, the "kingdom gospel":

(20) Jesus and the twelve "healed everyone"

"When the even was come, they brought unto Him many that​

were possessed with devils: and He cast out the spirits with​

His Word, and healed all that were sick"​

(Matthew 4:24, 8:16, 15:30-31; Mark 2:3-4, 6:54-56 AV)​

+

"Then He called His twelve disciples together, and gave them​

power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And​

He sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick...​

And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the​

[ kingdom ] gospel, and healing every where." (Luke 9:1-6 AV)​

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"There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto​

Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with​

unclean spirits: and they were healed every one." (Acts 5:16 AV)​

Why?:

a) The nation of Israel is called, By God:​

​

"And ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and an​

holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak​

unto the children of Israel." (Exodus 19:6 AV)​

b) The first "Requirement * to be a priest unto God":​

​

"No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the​

priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD​

made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh​

to offer the bread of his God." (Leviticus 21:21 AV)​

c) Thus all were healed in order to "meet God's first Requirement * ​

of no blemish for the priesthood."​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery / GRACE { Heavenly! }! Christ, to Paul, One apostle to the Gentiles:

(20) Today, Under The "Gospel Of Grace, According To God's Perfect Will,"

Not all are healed. Why Not?: No priesthood 'calling', but 'this' Is found​

in Romans - Philemon:​

"And He {Christ} Said Unto me, My Grace Is Sufficient For​

thee: For My Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most​

gladly therefore will I rather glory {cp} in my infirmities [ #link# ] ,​

that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!"​

(2 Corinthians 12:9 cp 2 Corinthians 11:23-30 AV)​

Same {as before} Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The Same,” correct?

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* Note: the Other Two Requirements for Israel's priesthood were
"water [ washing by John and the twelve ) baptism, and anointing
of oil [ Christ's Baptism with The Holy Spirit { at Pentecost } ]",
Neither of which are For us Today, As God, Under Grace, Now Has Only:

ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism! ​

Amen.

 

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Precious friends:

The first 19 'distinctions' of prophecy vs Mystery are here, and # 20 is here

Update:

21) The Second prophesied Coming of The Son of man To earthly Israel

has a 'gathering' [ but not a 'rapture' ("catching up") ]:​

Christ "Sets Up His Throne Of His Glory" (Matthew 25:31), and with:​

​

Another trumpet ( After "the 7th angel trumpet” in heaven ), on​

the earth, angels Are 'Sent', By The KING, To: “gather the elect”...​

(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27 AV)​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

21) The Mystery Coming Of The Head Of The Heavenly Body Of Christ Has

A Gathering, "Catching Up Into the air" (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 AV):​

CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take us To Heaven...​

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;​

Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18 AV)​

Further study: God's Great GRACE Departure! ( aka 'rapture' )

Amen.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Precious friends:

The first 19 'distinctions' of prophecy vs Mystery are here, # 20 is here, # 21 is here

Update:

22) In God's prophetic [ earthly ] Covenants/Law program we find, for saints of Israel,

God "Calls" them: twelve tribes, and,​

children of Israel, tribes of Jacob, lost sheep of the house of Israel; sheep​

going astray, having no shepherd; sheep who hear His Voice; branches​

[ of Jesus, The Vine ], friends, salt of the earth, light of the world, witnesses,​

handmaidens, servants of God; His servants the prophets, a people prepared​

for The Lord;​

​

newborn babes, little children, children of God, lively stones, a chosen​

generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation; people of God; a peculiar​

people unto God, above all the nations that are upon the earth;​

elect Of God, kings, priests, overcomers. (OT, Mat - John, Heb - Rev)​

​

"Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God​

made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall​

all the kindreds of the earth be blessed." (Acts 3:25 AV) - disciples? *​

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[ similar to below ]:

chosen, babes, dearly beloved, a peculiar people, elect, heirs, servants,​

brethren, children/sons of God.​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

22) In God's Other [ Heavenly ] Mystery program, for saints of the Body Of Christ,

we find a few of the above:​

[ similarities ]:

chosen, babes, dearly beloved, a peculiar people, elect, heirs, servants,​

brethren, children/sons of God.​

However, In Romans Through Philemon, as individuals,
we are "Called" By God: One Body, and:

babes In Christ, children of Light, dear children, children of the day,​

joint-heirs, soldiers/wrestlers, beloved brethren, dearly beloved,​

brethren beloved, beloved Of God, brethren beloved of The Lord,​

faithful brethren, partakers of [ Paul's God-Given ] Grace,​

the elect Of God:​

​

members Of Christ;​

members of His One Body, of His Flesh, and of His Bones;​

members one of another, members, Who God Has:​

​

"...raised us up together, and made us sit together in​

heavenly places in Christ Jesus" (Ephesians 2:6 AV),​

​

sons and daughters Of The Lord God Almighty, standers, walkers,​

runners, servants of righteousness, servants to God, servants of​

Jesus Christ, vessels of mercy/honor, workers, co-laborers with God,​

[ future ] judges of angels, temple Of The Living God, and [ Approved ]​

'students' of "The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided." (Romans - Philemon)​

- disciples? *​

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One more for "members of The One Body Of Christ":

"Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech​

you by us: we pray you in Christ's Stead, be ye reconciled to God."​

(2 Corinthians 5:20 AV)​

Precious friends:

Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified In God's Differences and
Distinctions, further Scriptural Evidence of God's Two Different Programs for
Different [ earthly twelve tribes ] people and [ Heavenly One Body ] persons.

Amen.

* Note: disciples is found up until Acts 21, but not Once in

God's "Revelation Of The Mystery" (Romans - Philemon).​

 

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Precious friends:

Basic Distinctions #'s 1-19 are here, Update #20 is here, #21 is here, #22 is here.

Update:

23) "Entering the kingdom"?:

prophecy / covenants / law for earthly Israel = "faith + works" to enter:

"show works meet for repentance" (Matthew 3:8), because,​

+

"to the twelve tribes of Israel", "faith Without works is dead"​

(James 1:1, 2:17,26)​

+

"keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Matthew 19:17)​

+

"one thing thou lackest...sell All / take up cross / follow Jesus"​

(Mark 10:17-23)​

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"he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved"​

(Matthew 24:13; Mark 13:13 AV)​

Confirmed By:

Judgment of goats and sheep:

"When the Son of man shall come in His Glory, and all the holy​

angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His Glory:​

And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate​

them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:​

And He shall set the sheep on His Right Hand, but the goats on The Left.​

Then shall the King say unto them on His Right Hand, Come, ye blessed​

of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation​

of the world:​

For I was an hungred, and ye gave Me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave​

Me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took Me in: Naked, and ye clothed​

Me: I was sick, and ye visited Me: I was in prison, and ye came unto Me.​

Then shall the righteous answer Him, saying, Lord, when saw we Thee​

an hungred, and fed Thee? or thirsty, and gave Thee drink? When saw​

we Thee a stranger, and took Thee in? or naked, and clothed Thee?​

Or when saw we Thee sick, or in prison, and came unto Thee?​

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,​

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren,​

ye have done it unto Me." (Matthew 25:31-40 AV)​

Prophecy / Covenants / Law, for earthly Israel

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

23) Mystery and Grace for The Heavenly Body Of Christ = "Grace Through

faith" to "be Translated Into The Kingdom":​

"Even when we were dead in sins, Hath Quickened us together with Christ,​

( By Grace ye Are Saved; )...For By Grace Are ye Saved Through Faith..."​

(Ephesians 2:5, 8 AV)​

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"Giving thanks unto The Father, Which Hath Made us meet to be partakers​

of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who Hath Delivered us from the​

power of darkness, and​

Hath Translated us into The Kingdom Of His Dear SON: In Whom​

​

we Have Redemption Through His Blood, even The Forgiveness Of sins"​

(Colossians 1:12-14 AV)​

Further Confirmed By The Judgment Seat Of Christ:

​

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall​

receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers​

together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.​

According to The Grace of God Which Is Given Unto me, as a wise​

masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth​

Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.​

For other foundation can no man lay than That is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.​

Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones,​

wood, hay, stubble;​

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The [ Judgment ] Day shall​

declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every​

man's work of what sort it is.​

If any man's work abide which he hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a​

reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he​

himself Shall Be Saved *; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

* By 'Grace Through faith', Having Already Been 'Translated Into The Kingdom!'

Amen.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. Thanks {in advance} for your
Prayerful/Careful Consideration, and, Please Be Edified In:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the
children of light's love of HIM, And love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in
our understanding of: Things That Differ!

{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under covenants and law, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel_2:44; Matthew_6:10 AV)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
( Current = “But Now!” Romans_3:21, 7:6, 16:26; Ephesians_2:13 et al AV):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(1_Corinthians_12:12, 27; Ephesians_4:12-16 AV)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah_23:5; Matthew_6:10 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(Ephesians_1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians_3:1-3 AV)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah_23:5; Isaiah_9:6-7 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(Ephesians_1:19-23; Colossians_1:18 AV)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke_1:68-70; Acts_3:21 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(Romans_16:25; Ephesians_1:4-11, 3:5-9 AV)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah_60:10-12, 61:6 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(Romans_10:12, 11:32; Ephesians_2:16-17 AV)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis_22:17-18; Zechariah_8:13 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(Acts_13:44-46, Romans_11:28-32 AV)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah_60:1-3; Zechariah_8:22-23 AV)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(Acts_28:27-28; Romans_11:11, 12, 15 AV)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah_2:4; Ezekiel_37:21-22 AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(Romans_10:12-13; 2_Corinthians_5:14-17 AV)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah_2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in
The Heavenlies” (Ephesians_1:3; Colossians_3:1-3 AV)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(Isaiah_59:20; Zechariah_14:4 AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From
the earth! (Ephesians_1:20-23; Colossians_3:1-3 AV)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is
Not contemplated (Matthew_28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke_7:29-30;
Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38; James_2:17 AV)
RDf

► The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at
The Very Heart Of The Mystery!
(Romans_3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians_2:8-9 AV) ◄

Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program
Committed particularly to the Twelve
(Matthew_10:5-7; Acts_1:6-8, 3:19-26 AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program
Committed particularly to One: Paul!
(Ephesians_3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians_1:24-27 AV)

Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of
God’s servants (Luke_1:70; 2 Peter_1:21 AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians_1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians_3:2-3 AV)

Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(Daniel_12:8-10; 1 Peter_1:10-12 AV)
RDf

The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians_1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians_1:9-10, 2:1-3 AV)
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Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and The Mystery!
(Credit to C.R. Stam: "Things That Differ," Chapter 2)
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Precious friend(s), Please, Be Very RICHLY Blessed!
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I have further compiled:

More Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs!:
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Prophecy/Law:
(15) The Two "Main" (of 12) baptisms =

A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke_7:29-30;
Acts_10:37; Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38;
Acts_22:16; Ezekiel_36:25 AV)
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B) "With" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST,
for power, signs And wonders! (Isaiah_44:3;
Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18; Luke_24:49;
Acts_2:17-18, 38; Acts_8:15-17; Acts_11:16 AV)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only One Baptism = "By" The One Spirit = God's Operation
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians_4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27; Romans_6:3-4;
1_Corinthians_12:13 AV)
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Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others First, Then God Will Forgive!
(Matthew_6:14-15, 18:35; Mark_11:25-26; Luke_6:37 AV)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others Because CHRIST Has Already Forgiven us!
(Ephesians_4:32; Colossians_3:13 AV)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) a) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew_6:9; Luke_11:2 AV)

b) "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing,​

ye shall receive." (Matthew_21:22; John_16:24 AV)​

RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(Philippians_4:6 AV) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not what to pray as we ought,"
But: "The Spirit Intercedeth For us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(Romans_8:26 AV)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
(18) "Sell everything/follow Jesus" = Commanded in Matthew_19:21,
Mark_10:21, and Luke_12:33, 18:22! The Twelve and Jewish
believers obeyed, In Acts_2:44-45 and 4:32 AV
RDf

Mystery/GRACE (Heavenly!):
(18)
"...Work with your hands, to provide for your own/give to those in need..."
(Acts_20:35; Romans_12:11; 1_Corinthians_4:12; Ephesians-4:28;
2_Corinthians_12:14; 1_Thessalonians_4:11-12; 2_Thessalonians_3:7-12;
1 Timothy 5:8 AV)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
19) watchmen, { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN, And signs" (Matthew_24 AV)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:

(19) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
Looking, Patiently waiting, and watching For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
( Romans_8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1_Corinthians_1:7; Ephesians_6:12-18;
Philippians_3:20; Colossians_3:2, 4:1-3; 1_Thessalonians_1:10, 5:5-11;
2_Thessalonians_3:5; Titus_2:13 AV )
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Update #20 is here, #21 is here, #22 is here.

probably more… But, considering all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only one gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached The Exact Same thing"?:

Conclusion:

“Things that are Different are just Not The Same” correct?
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LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
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Precious friend(s), Please, Be Very RICHLY Encouraged/Edified in your "own study"!

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Thanks for sharing all of that, there's a lot there to consider. It will take quite a while to read through all of that material but I will as time allows.

 

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Precious friends,

Basic Distinctions #'s 1-19 are here, Update #20 is here, #21 is here, #22 is here,
and #23 is here.

Update:

24) sabbath-keeping?

In God's Context Of prophecy / covenants / law for earthly Israel:​

(Genesis - John - Acts 8 - Hebrews - Revelation AV)​

Yes, sabbath-keeping was required for Israel; a 'sign' between them and God:

"Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily My sabbaths ye shall keep:​

for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know​

that I AM The LORD that doth sanctify you." (Exodus 31:13 AV)​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

24) In God's Other Context Of:

Mystery and Grace For The Heavenly Body Of Christ:​

(Acts 9 - Romans -Philemon AV)​

​

No, sabbath-keeping is not required for The Body Of Christ:

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let​

every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it​

unto The Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to The Lord he doth not regard it."​

(Romans 14:5)​

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"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of​

the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the​

body is of Christ." (Colossians 2:16-17 AV)​

Amen.