Do you admit that the gospel cannot change the world?

[soberxp]

You must be pro CCP and allowed to be here to advocate for communism

Are you judge me with your poor understanding and imagine?
Or your mind instilling all of your politician who wants you to believe in.

As for CCP, they have God to judge them in the last judgment, but not you or your politician.

Or the people of China to judge them.......even if that's not right in the Bible. No one truly has the right to judge.

 

[Triumph1300]

Yeah but in the US you don't get sent to prison or a re-education camp or murdered if you speak out against the government.

Ha, some have been murdered in the US, don't kid yourself.
And send to prison as well.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

As for CCP, they have God to judge them in the last judgment, but not you or your politician.

None to worry the politicians over here will be judged too.

But most of the one's over here are not persecuting Christians like those running the CCP are.

No one truly has the right to judge.

You should study what Jesus said: Jesus tells us to judge righteously

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

The only way to judge righteously is to compare what people do and say to what God's Word teaches.

He also warns that we will be judged with the judgement that we judge with (reap what we sow - Gal 6:7,8)

Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

So, if someone is believing or doing something that is obviously in opposition to what God's Word teaches... it's not "judging" them to point out what they believe or do is in opposition to what God's Word teaches

By the same token, we should apply God's Word to ourselves and we should actually judge ourselves

1 Corinthians 11:31
For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

The purpose of this is to submit ourselves to the Lord so that He does not have to judge us as spoken of in 1 Corinthians 11:32.... the Lord would much rather have us come to Him in submission and ask / believe for His leading / teaching so we can keep ourselves on the path that leads to life and not get off on the path that leads to death (separation from God)

1 Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[Triumph1300]

Jesus tells us to judge righteously

So, How do you judge ISIS throwing people in American jails and murdering people on the streets of Minnesota?
And there is more.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So, How do you judge ICE throwing people in American jails and murdering people on the streets of Minnesota?

If you knew the Word of God you would know Christians are called to obey the laws of man unless they directly oppose the Gospel

Those that interfered with law enforcement putting officers in danger that were shot and died were sadly the cause of their own demise. They should have stayed off to the side with their signs protesting, but they did not. Too bad for them.

Those such as yourself who rebel and resist the ordinance of God will receive to themselves damnation (see Romans 13:1-4)

The government has every right to round up all the law breakers who entered our country illegally and deport them. It's the law of the land so if you don't like it write your congress man.

1 Peter 2:13,14
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as
supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers,
and for the praise of them that do well.

Romans 13:1-4
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that
be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall
receive to themselves damnation.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?
do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he
beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him
that doeth evil.

 

[soberxp]

If you knew the Word of God you would know Christians are called to obey the laws of man unless they directly oppose the Gospel

Those that interfered with law enforcement putting officers in danger that were shot and died were sadly the cause of their own demise. They should have stayed off to the side with their signs protesting, but they did not. Too bad for them.

Those such as yourself who rebel and resist the ordinance of God will receive to themselves damnation (see Romans 13:1-4)

The government has every right to round up all the law breakers who entered our country illegally and deport them. It's the law of the land so if you don't like it write your congress man.

1 Peter 2:13,14
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as
supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers,
and for the praise of them that do well.

Romans 13:1-4
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that
be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall
receive to themselves damnation.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?
do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he
beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him
that doeth evil.

How about CCP?According to your basis.

1 Peter 2:13,14
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as
supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers,
and for the praise of them that do well.

Romans 13:1-4

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that

be are ordained of God.

Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall

receive to themselves damnation.

 

[Triumph1300]

For there is no power but of God: the powers that
be are ordained of God.

So you think that would include evil powers.
God does not ordain evil powers.
Shooting people at random in the streets is not ordained by God.
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If every Government power is ordained by God, would you justify
shooting many people on the Iranian streets?


Check out this:

 

[soberxp]

So you think that would include evil powers.
God does not ordain evil powers.
Shooting people at random in the streets is not ordained by God.
---------------------------------------------------------------
If every Government power is ordained by God, would you justify
shooting many people on the Iranian streets?


Check out this:

He is double standard.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

According to your basis.

If a government interferes with one's relationship with the Lord then following that government means one must turn away from the Lord. Do that at your own peril.

So you think that would include evil powers.
God does not ordain evil powers.
Shooting people at random in the streets is not ordained by God.

Of course in the view of the godless liberals there should be no law enforcement. Threatening law enforcement officers and putting them in harms way is against the law and is satan's will as he seeks to destroy society and bring forth chaos.

Liberals are on the wrong side of eternity as they will discover when they die someday and go south.

Enforcing emigration law does not forbid anyone from walking with the Lord therefore emigration law enforcement does not violate the will of the Lord not that liberals care what God's will is seeing they enthusiastically support murdering innocent babies in the womb (abortion) and sexual perversion (gay agenda) both of which are an abomination unto the Lord according to what He has said in His Word.

Law enforcement does not bare the sword in vain (Romans 13:1-4) so liberals need to remember this next time your "protest" involves threatening law enforcement officers and putting them in harms way. If you get shot then you caused your own demise.

He is double standard.

That's what those who embrace lawlessness claim as they are void of understanding.

If every Government power is ordained by God, would you justify
shooting many people on the Iranian streets?

Not in the case of the Iranian government because they are an islamic theocracy and as such are servants of satan who have the mandate to steal, kill, and to destroy just like their father the devil.

Of course being Canadian you are obviously a socialist is is just a step shy of being a godless communist so we understand why you are void of understanding in what God's will is.

Just until Jesus returns to earth and starts His 1000 Year Reign where He will rule with a hand of iron.

That means those acting in rebellion will be dealt with harshly. Of course those embracing lawlessness will be in hell and won't be here for the 1000 Year Reign of Christ.

 

[lforrest]

It can't really be denied that Christianity shaped the world. Where it didn't shape the world by conversion, it shaped the world by changing the spiritual dynamics. Requiring the creation of new stumbling blocks placed by devils to keep people from so easily coming to Christ to be saved.