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Pelaides

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This Vale Of Tears said:
The police did not charge Zimmerman because under Florida law, (as well as every other state) there can be no arrest without probable cause that a crime was committed. The police were correct in their decision and even the jury came to the same conclusion. No evidence of a crime.
Well government officials indicted zimmerman and brought him to trial,The majority of people(black and white}here in the northeast feel that travon martin was denied justice,despite what that wacky pastor may think.
 

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Pelaides said:
Well government officials indicted zimmerman and brought him to trial,The majority of people(black and white}here in the northeast feel that travon martin was denied justice,despite what that wacky pastor may think.
Zimmerman was indicted after the U.S. attorney general and the race hustlers got involved and applied pressure. Charges were not brought according to Florida law because according to the law, there was no evidence. This was a case of the federal government targeting a private citizen for special hostility because of a race-based agenda and dragooning a local jurisdiction to proceed with an indictment that the circumstances of the case did not warrant.
 

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This Vale Of Tears said:
Zimmerman was indicted after the U.S. attorney general and the race hustlers got involved and applied pressure. Charges were not brought according to Florida law because according to the law, there was no evidence. This was a case of the federal government targeting a private citizen for special hostility because of a race-based agenda and dragooning a local jurisdiction to proceed with an indictment that the circumstances of the case did not warrant.
No evidence?a 17 year old murdered for walking down the street. God bless america
 

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I THINK us PEOPLE ARE ALL RACIST !!

either we perfer TO BE what we are or we perfer TO BE what the other guys is..
EITHER WAY ITS RACISM. :D
 

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I came from a country, South Africa, where all the people wanted was a job, so they could feed there families, worked hard yet where treated like crap. now I live in a country where all the aboriginal say they want, is to be treated as equals yet get free handouts and dont want to work , than cry " racists" when it suits them, the police force here cant be bothered arresting them becase it is too much trouble. Should send them all to africa for a little while,might change how they think. Nah I like the pastors statement, i have seeing far to many who call themselves :"christians" yet are not willing to forgive,they are only christian by title not by fruit.

In all His Love
 

HeRoseFromTheDead

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Pelaides said:
No evidence?a 17 year old murdered for walking down the street. God bless america
More like killed because he was straddling and pummeling MMA style an armed man... Not very smart
 

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Pelaides said:
No evidence?a 17 year old murdered for walking down the street. God bless america
The fact that he was 17 came out after the event. Can you really tell somebody who's 17 from somebody who's 15, 19 or 21? And does the right to self defense somehow fall by the wayside when the threat comes from a minor? There's only one point that I'll heartily agree with you on.

God bless America.
 

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
More like killed because he was straddling and pummeling MMA style an armed man... Not very smart
It seems to me that mr.zimmeran was the one devoid of intelligence,He picked a fight with somebody physically superior to himself and had to use deadly force to escape being injured.His own lawyer was laughing at him,How a 220 pound man was screaming like a woman while he was being beaten by a skinny teenager. :lol:
 

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horsecamp said:
no . because a person can think Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter and still be just as Christian as some one who thinks he was not guilty.

perhaps a better sermon would be Jesus did not come to save FICTIOUS sinners.

this way he would be preaching to his whole congregation those that thought either way.. including himself
to judge anyone is wrong unless you happen to be the ones needed to sit in judgement of that person. unless you know and can read a person's heart it is best to just stay out of it.

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Pelaides said:
It seems to me that mr.zimmeran was the one devoid of intelligence,He picked a fight with somebody physically superior to himself and had to use deadly force to escape being injured.His own lawyer was laughing at him,How a 220 pound man was screaming like a woman while he was being beaten by a skinny teenager. :lol:
You're imagining things. There is no evidence that he picked a fight. You're seeing what you want to see.
 

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I for one, am tired of accidentally stumbling on the net of people still talking/protesting about this.
The signs being carried say, "No Justice, No Peace." To me that merely means, If you don't let us commit a crime, we will commit more crime."
Plain and simple.
Also, I am tired of stumbling on protestors and ignorant celebrities, wearing skittles and hoodies as a show of "support." Don't they get it that they are blindly and/or without research supporting an ingredient to make a "let's get high" potion ? And the hoodies, worn by gang members, whether the gang be asian, arian, black, or hispanic, are worn covering the head, even in very hot weather, to disguise themselves from not only law enforcement, but by rival gangs.

Innocent young victim ?

Oh the propoganda..... !!




Pelaides said:
It seems to me that mr.zimmeran was the one devoid of intelligence,He picked a fight with somebody physically superior to himself and had to use deadly force to escape being injured.His own lawyer was laughing at him,How a 220 pound man was screaming like a woman while he was being beaten by a skinny teenager. :lol:
You just contradicted yourself.
 

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
You're imagining things. There is no evidence that he picked a fight. You're seeing what you want to see.
Lets see. Zimmerman was the one in pursuit of Martin even after the 911 person told him to back off.
Zimmerman was definitely the aggressor. He did the wrong thing and I hope he pays for it someday!
 

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kaotic profit said:
Lets see. Zimmerman was the one in pursuit of Martin even after the 911 person told him to back off.
Zimmerman was definitely the aggressor. He did the wrong thing and I hope he pays for it someday!
There's no evidence that Z continued following T after the dispatcher told Z he didn't need to follow T. Z just said OK.

I have seen the apartment complex layout. Z basically walked from his parked truck in front of an apartment bldg to the back of the building so that he could apparently see down the open space between two rows of buildings. He was assaulted there as he was waiting for the police.
 

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
There's no evidence that Z continued following T after the dispatcher told Z he didn't need to follow T. Z just said OK.

I have seen the apartment complex layout. Z basically walked from his parked truck in front of an apartment bldg to the back of the building so that he could apparently see down the open space between two rows of buildings. He was assaulted there as he was waiting for the police.
Sorry...You'll never convince me that Travon Martin was the one in pursuit of Zimmerman.
I need to get out of these political debates. Politics does no Christian any good!
 

This Vale Of Tears

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kaotic profit said:
Lets see. Zimmerman was the one in pursuit of Martin even after the 911 person told him to back off.
Zimmerman was definitely the aggressor. He did the wrong thing and I hope he pays for it someday!
He's already paying for it with death threats and rage from your kind of people. But let me ask you honestly, pertaining to the OP, is your opinion in any way affected by the fact that Martin was black and Zimmerman white and hispanic?
 

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He's already paying for it with death threats and rage from your kind of people. But let me ask you honestly, pertaining to the OP, is your opinion in any way affected by the fact that Martin was black and Zimmerman white and hispanic?
Not at all. My opinion is that if Martin went to 711 to but an iced tea and some skittles, and was where he was supposed to be, i.e. walking to his fathers girlfriends house, and Zimmerman was in pursuit of him even after he was told to leave him alone by the 911 operator, and since Martin was black and wearing a hoodie, and he committed no crime.
YEAH! I think Zimmerman was profiling Martin.
 

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laid renard said:
I for one, am tired of accidentally stumbling on the net of people still talking/protesting about this.
The signs being carried say, "No Justice, No Peace." To me that merely means, If you don't let us commit a crime, we will commit more crime."
Plain and simple.
Also, I am tired of stumbling on protestors and ignorant celebrities, wearing skittles and hoodies as a show of "support." Don't they get it that they are blindly and/or without research supporting an ingredient to make a "let's get high" potion ? And the hoodies, worn by gang members, whether the gang be asian, arian, black, or hispanic, are worn covering the head, even in very hot weather, to disguise themselves from not only law enforcement, but by rival gangs.

Innocent young victim ?

Oh the propoganda..... !!





You just contradicted yourself.
How can you get high from eating skittles,and drinking watermelon juice?You might get diabetes,but you wont get stoned.

When i said trayvon was superior physically,I was refering to his height.speed.and reflexes,Zimmerman was no match for him in a fairfight.
 

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Not at all. My opinion is that if Martin went to 711 to but an iced tea and some skittles, and was where he was supposed to be, i.e. walking to his fathers girlfriends house, and Zimmerman was in pursuit of him even after he was told to leave him alone by the 911 operator, and since Martin was black and wearing a hoodie, and he committed no crime.
YEAH! I think Zimmerman was profiling Martin.
Even if all you said were true, it's common legal theory that when you "defend yourself" to the point of putting somebody else's life in jeopardy, it's no longer self defense. If you take a swing at me and I hit you and knock you to the ground, I've defended myself. If I keep at you, kicking and stomping you when you're no longer a threat to me, then I've broken the law. If I cause you to believe that your life is in jeopardy, you are justified in using deadly force to defend yourself. It's clear that you see everything through racial eyes, which is precisely what this pastor was alluding to. You didn't even pay attention to the trial or you would understand what the jury understood, that regardless of what events lead up to the final combat, Trevon Martin was savagely beating George Zimmerman to the point he thought his life was in danger. One juror in an exit interview said she had "no doubt" that Zimmerman feared for his life. You can string justification after justification, but there is nothing that justified Trevon Martin's actions once he knew he wasn't in any danger.

But racists like you will never see things as they are.