Do you believe this statement: "Jesus is YHWH", Yes or No?

[Matthias]

(Poll) A simple Yes or No answer:
Do you believe and agree with the following statement: "Jesus is YHWH."
Yes or No?

Feel free to post and explain why or why not in the thread.

You should consider starting a simple poll asking “Is there more than one YHWH?”

 

[dak]

You can't explain, you do not have faith in Jesus. You have faith in something or someone else. All Scripture is spiritually discerned and so if you have not been baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit, you do not have discernment, just like blind men who go into a room and try to figure out what an elephant is. One grabs hold of his leg and says, "I got it, it's a tree". Another takes hold of his trunk and says, "No, it's a large snake, an anaconda", and another says, " You know what, it would take me a whole chapter to explain it ... but I know what this is".

All this without a shred of evidence, O prophet? Repent, and ask forgiveness for totally ignoring the commandments of the Master which you have wantonly violated and which are clearly written in his Testimony in the Gospel accounts.

You act and speak as if you have known me for years and yet we've never met, and not even on this board until your several posts here in this thread, showing that you consider yourself the Judge of others whom you've never even met, in the place of the Master, right here upon the earth. Sorry to have to inform you but the RCC and their Pope already have you beat as far as claiming to be the "vicar of Christ" upon the earth.

If you do not repent and start truly believing that the Meshiah is the light of the world, which can only be verified by you actually doing what he says, then you too will die in your sins.

 

[dak]

You should consider starting a simple poll asking “Is there more than one YHWH?”

I have already discovered by this poll that there are many haters claiming to be Christians on this board, full of vitriol and judgement, and most of them are not even actually Trinitarians: so I have no doubt there would also be plenty of "two YHWH", "three YHWH", and maybe even "four YHWH" believers calling themselves Trinitarians and acting like you are doomed or unsaved if you do not agree with their (non-Trinitarian) blasphemy.

I included a four count because of what someone said earlier in the thread, that it depends on "how you define YHWH", which meant that if you define Him simply as "God" then the person would agree with the poll question, that "Jesus is YHWH" if He is just God and not Father. But I think what that one did not realize is that, according to the Trinity Shield, you do indeed have a fourth God in the midst of the other three, and that's precisely what that poster was saying, whether knowing it or not: essentially, "Call the one in the middle YHWH, and then all three are that forth one in the middle", and this is what passes for Trinitarianism thinking and teaching these days? The Trinity bus has gone off the road and over a cliff, the drivers are asleep at the wheel, and everyone on board is partying like it's 1999.

What else can you expect when even Oneness-modalism is now showing up in Bible translations, as seen in some of the verses in the verse list posted earlier by ProDeo, and those were generally paraphrases from what I could tell, meaning that they are the types of Bibles that are more likely to be handed out to new believers. What will happen when those new believers grow up in faith and end up in a place like this being confronted with reality from people who actually do know the scripture?

They will either become vicious just like the examples their own display here on a daily basis, or they will find and believe the truth by way of the scripture, and never return to the lying ones who deceived them from the womb: having discovered that they were not suckling on the milk of the Word, no, but rather suckling rotten milk from some diseased cow.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

All this without a shred of evidence, O prophet? Repent, and ask forgiveness for totally ignoring the commandments of the Master which you have wantonly violated and which are clearly written in his Testimony in the Gospel accounts.

You act and speak as if you have known me for years and yet we've never met, and not even on this board until your several posts here in this thread, showing that you consider yourself the Judge of others whom you've never even met, in the place of the Master, right here upon the earth. Sorry to have to inform you but the RCC and their Pope already have you beat as far as claiming to be the "vicar of Christ" upon the earth.

If you do not repent and start truly believing that the Meshiah is the light of the world, which can only be verified by you actually doing what he says, then you too will die in your sins.

Tell me, what "other faith" do you claim to have? If you could please share that. When people put that in their profile, it usually means they are NOT CHRISTIAN.
A Jew? Even the non-trinitarian would put Christian in their profile. Is this thread a clandestine effort to derail Christian fundamental beliefs? That would be futile and a waste of time.
Why don't you answer your own question? You don't have to take a poll, I'll inform you - 97% believe Jesus is GOD (out of 2.7 billion) . The rest are wrong. All other religions are on the wrong path too. Wide is the path of destruction, few find the narrow gate. And if you are a Jew, read Romans 11 ... there's still hope for you, you will be receiving that divine appointment soon.
I am not a prophet or judge, this is just a spiritual fundamental truth! You want to play with it, take a poll, try to pick apart posts. Ooo let's throw some Hebrew, I'll give them a taste if my knowledge and pick apart the Greek translations... I am not impressed. And btw, I have repented, received Jesus as my Lord and Savior and He baptized me with the Holy Spirit, Who dwells within me. Who needs repentance here? How about the one who is questioning if Jesus is God or not?

 

[Matthias]

More trinitarian commentary (for trinitarian and non-trinitarian consideration).

”We are not to suppose that the apostles identified Christ with Jehovah; there were passages which made this impossible, for instance, Ps. CX.1, …”

(Charles Bigg, International Critical Commentary on 1 Peter, p. 99)

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Jehovah = Yahweh.

Dr. Bigg (Church of England) directs our attention to the critically important Psalm 110:1 -> the most frequently quoted or alluded to passage from the Hebrew Bible / Old Testament in the New Testament; highly influential on the thinking of the Messiah, the apostles, and primitive Christianity.

That‘s all anyone needs to settle it.

 

[Kayla McCanny]

ThERE IS NO J IN HEBREW SO IT IS YAWEH AND YESHUA. IN GREEK IT IS CHRISTOS, HENCE CHRIST.

 

[Kayla McCanny]

Tell me, what "other faith" do you claim to have? If you could please share that. When people put that in their profile, it usually means they are NOT CHRISTIAN.
A Jew? Even the non-trinitarian would put Christian in their profile. Is this thread a clandestine effort to derail Christian fundamental beliefs? That would be futile and a waste of time.
Why don't you answer your own question? You don't have to take a poll, I'll inform you - 97% believe Jesus is GOD (out of 2.7 billion) . The rest are wrong. All other religions are on the wrong path too. Wide is the path of destruction, few find the narrow gate. And if you are a Jew, read Romans 11 ... there's still hope for you, you will be receiving that divine appointment soon.
I am not a prophet or judge, this is just a spiritual fundamental truth! You want to play with it, take a poll, try to pick apart posts. Ooo let's throw some Hebrew, I'll give them a taste if my knowledge and pick apart the Greek translations... I am not impressed. And btw, I have repented, received Jesus as my Lord and Savior and He baptized me with the Holy Spirit, Who dwells within me. Who needs repentance here? How about the one who is questioning if Jesus is God or not ah 53;4'-6 "PUNISHED BY GOD..PIERCED AND 10 THE

LORDS PLANS TO JUSTIFY. MANY THEY SHOULD LOOK UPON HIM TO WHOM THE ONE THEY HAVE PIERCED. FUTURE REFERENCES. PSALMS 22:16 PIERCED MY HANDS AND FEET. HOW DOES GOD HAVE HANDS AND FEET?

 

[David in NJ]

(Poll) A simple Yes or No answer:
Do you believe and agree with the following statement: "Jesus is YHWH."
Yes or No?

Feel free to post and explain why or why not in the thread.

Based on the Evidence of Genesis, OT Prophets, JESUS words in His Gospel, the Apostles and Revelation = YES = 100% YHWH

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus, the Messiah, is the Son of Yahweh.

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Scripture please

 

[David in NJ]

LORDS PLANS TO JUSTIFY. MANY THEY SHOULD LOOK UPON HIM TO WHOM THE ONE THEY HAVE PIERCED. FUTURE REFERENCES. PSALMS 22:16 PIERCED MY HANDS AND FEET. HOW DOES GOD HAVE HANDS AND FEET?

YES, when HE came to earth = Sent from the FATHER

 

[David in NJ]

Greetings shepherdsword,

Most translations and commentators accept the present tense “I am that I am”, but notice in the margin of the RV (or ASV) and RSV, an alternative is given “I will be that I will be” or “I will be what I will be”, showing that some modern scholars suggest this alternative reading. Although not popular it appears that this future tense is the correct translation.

Not only modern scholars, Tyndale also translated this in the future tense, and I also like the interesting spelling of his time and the specific spelling “I wilbe”:

Exodus 3:12-14 (Tyndale): 12 And he sayde: I wilbe with the. And this shalbe a token vnto the that I haue sent the: after that thou hast broughte the people out of Egipte, ye shall serue God vppon this mountayne. 13 Than sayde Moses vnto God: when I come vnto the childern of Israell and saye vnto them, the God of youre fathers hath sent me vnto you, ad they saye vnto me, what ys his name, what answere shall I geuethem? 14 Then sayde God vnto Moses: I wilbe what I wilbe: ad he sayde, this shalt thou saye vnto the children of Israel: I wilbe dyd send me to you.

Kind regards
Trevor

What do you think is the difference bewteen:

IAM that IAM (IAM for short) and I will Be what I will Be

 

[David in NJ]

This response only causes me now to think that for some reason you have found yourself a way to stay on the fence. The question is why? Why would you have such a need to do so when the scripture plainly defines the reality for us? I suspect that it is because you know what real Trinitarians believe. YHWH is the Father, and true Trinitarians know that, and there is no reason or excuse to reduce the Tetragrammaton Name of the Father to "God" when the scripture has already made the truth clear and known.

Isaiah 63:16-19 TS2009 (w/Footnotes)
16 For You are our Father, though Aḇraham does not know us, and Yisra’ĕl does not recognise us. You, O יהוה, are our Father, our Redeemer – Your Name is from of old.
17 O יהוה, why do You make us stray from Your ways, and harden our heart from Your fear? Turn back, for the sake of Your servants, the tribes of Your inheritance.
18 For a little while Your set-apart people possessed it – our adversaries have trodden down Your set-apart place.a Footnote: aPsa 74:1-23, Psa 79:1-13, Jer 51:51, Lam 1:10, Dan 8:13, Dan 11:31, Mat 24:15.
19 We have become like those over whom You never ruled – Your Name is not called on them!

"Real Tinitarians"

The only Authentic and REAL Trinitarian is ELOHIM of Genesis ch1 = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"

 

[Kayla McCanny]

John 10: 30-33 isaih 553:4-12 Zechariah 12:4 psalms 22, John 9:38 the disciples also claims who he is 1john 2:2 revelations 5:21 2 Corinthians 5:21 Luke 9:16 Hebrews 1:8 megidomoaic 230 ad. Revelations 1:8 and 22:5 isaiah 53:4-5 punished by God ...pierced it was his own plan to justify many.....they should look upon the one whom they have pierced John 19:37 Zechariah 12:10 John 19:37 Zechariah pointing to a future time. How can one pierce an invisible God. Psalms 22:16..." pierced my hands and feet"..Jesus John 14 :16-17

 

[marks]

(Poll) A simple Yes or No answer:
Do you believe and agree with the following statement: "Jesus is YHWH."
Yes or No?

Feel free to post and explain why or why not in the thread.

Yes Jesus and YHWH are the same.

Romans 14:10-12 KJV
10) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12) So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Isaiah 45:21-23 KJV
21) Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22) Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23) I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

YHWH has sworn that to Him every knee shall bow, which Paul shows will be at the judgment seat of Christ, and to Him shall we bow.

So yes, Jesus is YHWH.

Much love!

 

[JLB]

Jesus Christ is LORD; YHWH


Amen!

 

[David in NJ]

John 10: 30-33 isaih 553:4-12 Zechariah 12:4 psalms 22, John 9:38 the disciples also claims who he is 1john 2:2 revelations 5:21 2 Corinthians 5:21 Luke 9:16 Hebrews 1:8 megidomoaic 230 ad. Revelations 1:8 and 22:5 isaiah 53:4-5 punished by God ...pierced it was his own plan to justify many.....they should look upon the one whom they have pierced John 19:37 Zechariah 12:10 John 19:37 Zechariah pointing to a future time. How can one pierce an invisible God. Psalms 22:16..." pierced my hands and feet"..Jesus John 14 :16-17

ELOHIM(God) of Genesis chapter 1 = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"

What do you believe is the difference between "IAM that IAM (IAM for short)" and "I will Be what I will Be"

 

[TrevorHL]

Greetings again David in NJ,

What do you think is the difference bewteen:
IAM that IAM (IAM for short) and I will Be what I will Be

I AM is the present tense and speaks of existence, I will be includes both existence and the future tense and speaks of activity, and in the context of Exodus 3 and Exodus 6:1-8 God's Name speaks of the promise by God to Abraham and here to Moses that He would be with Moses to deliver the children of Israel out of Egypt and being them into the Promised Land. I will be or He will be, that is Yahweh, also speaks of the greater salvation and deliverance through Jesus.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[David in NJ]

Greetings again David in NJ,

I AM is the present tense and speaks of existence, I will be includes both existence and the future tense and speaks of activity, and in the context of Exodus 3 and Exodus 6:1-8 God's Name speaks of the promise by God to Abraham and here to Moses that He would be with Moses to deliver the children of Israel out of Egypt and being them into the Promised Land. I will be or He will be, that is Yahweh, also speaks of the greater salvation and deliverance through Jesus.

Kind regards
Trevor

Thank you Trevor for your synopsis - much appreciated

Can you take it a step further

What would be the difference in relation to the claim of JESUS = before Abraham IAM

 

[JLB]

LORDS PLANS TO JUSTIFY. MANY THEY SHOULD LOOK UPON HIM TO WHOM THE ONE THEY HAVE PIERCED. FUTURE REFERENCES. PSALMS 22:16 PIERCED MY HANDS AND FEET. HOW DOES GOD HAVE HANDS AND FEET?

God became flesh.

He was made a little lower than the angels.


We are made in His image.


And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. Revelation 5:1

 

[TrevorHL]

Greetings again David in NJ,

Can you take it a step further
What would be the difference in relation to the claim of JESUS = before Abraham IAM

I suggest that the I AM translation in the KJV and most modern translations is because of the supposed connection of Jesus' claim in John 8:58. There are a few translations that give I Will Be including Tyndale "I wilbe" and the RV and RSV margins. The Hebrew scholar AB Davidson also gives I will be and the Englishman's Concordance places Ehyeh of Exodus 3:14 under the future tense section.

I consider that the correct translation of John 8:58 should be "I am he", the same as in the immediate context John 8:24,28 and is part of the theme in John's Gospel of whether or not Jesus is the Christ.

Kind regards
Trevor