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Does Charles Darwin approve of “Answers in Genesis”?

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  1. theophilus

    theophilus Well-Known Member

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    Answers in Genesis is an organization founded and led by Ken Ham that is dedicated to proving that the Bible’s account of creation recorded in Genesis is true and can be supported scientifically. It has aroused a great deal of controversy. It is strongly supported by many Bible believers. It is disliked by unbelievers who accept the popular idea that life evolved over millions of years and even by some Christians who also accept this belief. (For a long time I was in this group. I was a Christian but I also believed that the theory of evolution had been scientifically proven. If I had known of Answers in Genesis I would probably have believed that what it was teaching was false. In the last few years I have come to realized that in fact there is no evidence supporting evolution.)

    Recently a thought occurred to me. What is Charles Darwin’s opinion of Answers in Genesis? Darwin died in 1882, but his soul still exists. How have his views changed since his death?

    In his early life Darwin believed in God and even majored in theology in college. Later he lost his faith and became an agnostic. There are accounts that claim he was converted to Christianity before he died but there seems to be no evidence that any of those accounts are true. But it is possible that he was converted before his death and simply didn’t have a chance to tell anyone about it. If this is the case then he is in heaven now. He realizes that he was wrong in what he wrote and that his writings have misled many people. If so, he approves of Answers in Genesis and its efforts to refute his errors and lead people to a knowledge of the truth.

    It is also possible that Darwin persisted in his unbelief and is now in Hades waiting for the final judgment when he will be condemned to the Lake of Fire. He realizes the error of his teaching and how harmful it is to others. Jesus once reported the words of a man who was in Hades.

    And he said, “Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house—for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.”
    Luke 16:27,28 ESV

    This shows that those in Hades are still concerned about the state of the living and don’t want them to share their suffering. If this is so, then Darwin surely supports Answers in Genesis.

    We won’t know whether or not Darwin is saved until we get to heaven and find out whether he is there, but is seems likely that whether he is saved of lost he approves of the work of creationist organizations such as Answers in Genesis.
     
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    excuse me? he died, but his life still exists?
    dont be so sure imo. There is a better way to read that at least. I mean if Yah Himself came down and told you that there was no chance you were ever going up to heaven after you had died, would you believe Him or no?
    well No one has ever gone up to heaven but He Who came down from it right so that little prob is solved i guess huh.

    no offense but "Answers in Genesis" is written by someone who feels qualified to give answers from the Bible, yes? Definitive statements--like you are doing here--are made, generally speaking? Where do coywolves come from, do you think? Superbugs? Supergenes?

    Darwin would not approve of AiG im sure, wadr
     
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    Darwin believes God’s Word. Probably not all interpretations, nor human opinions.
     
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    Everyone who has died now knows that God's word is true, and is no longer deceived by false interpretations or human opinions.
     
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    theophilus,

    Since Charles Darwin is not alive today, the question, "What is Charles Darwin’s opinion of Answers in Genesis?" cannot be answered. Perhaps a better question would be: 'In the light of what Darwin taught in Origin of the Species (1859) and his other writings, what would be his view of God as Creator? Would he approve of the record from Genesis 1?

    Oz
     
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    I’ll wager he does
     
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    Just a word of caution about this topic. The evolutionists on this forum will probably try to trash AiG and Ken Ham, implying that he and other creationists are liars.... I've seen this happen. So, just so you know that you're opening a can of worms where they are concerned.

    I appreciate all of the Christian creationist ministries. All of my schooling through my college years took place in secular schools; therefore, I was unapologetically taught evolution as fact, not theory. I don't remember any of my teachers or professors questioning this idea or saying that it's unproven. When I mention evolution in this post, I'm talking about what's called macro-evolution, which is the supposed gradual change of one kind of organism into another kind. Some have called this "goo to you" evolution, lol.

    My undergraduate degree is in psychology. (I began pursuing it before I was saved.) In my child development class, my professor taught that a good theory is NOT based on other theories.... In this class we learned that Freud, the Father of Psychology, based his theories on evolution, so one day I asked the professor about how Freud's theories could be sound if they were based on a theory. Then I mentioned that I didn't believe in evolution. He paused before answering, and I thought he was about to blast me, but he just said I was right. The lady sitting in front of me turned around and asked me what I do believe. I told her that I believe the Bible account of the creation and then prepared myself for my first bout of persecution as a baby Christian, but she just smiled and said, "So do I." I'm sure that I heaved a sigh of relief.

    Here's one of the problems I've observed with discussing this issue. The evolutionists have such convincing rhetoric. They tend to use scientific words that most of us aren't familiar with, so they can sound very convincing. And they sincerely believe in the concept, but they are sincerely deceived. I can't think of a concept that has done more damage to our society than evolution. The acceptance of this concept has necessitated the erroneous idea that the earth is millions and millions of years old and that the universe is billions of years old, which represents a completely arbitrary timeline with no scientific proof. And evolution has provided a way to explain the existence of the universe apart from the Creator. Of course, evolution doesn't explain where the primordial goo came from, so it requires just a much faith (of sorts) to believe this idea as it does for Christians to believe in the biblical account of creation. Hmm, evolution doesn't really sound like science to me.

    Some people mix the two belief systems and say that God created the goo, but this is not scriptural and doesn't account for the supernatural events in the Creation. I believe that God was very intentional in His explanation of the Creation account in Genesis to show that, as the writer of Hebrews explained, "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear” (Heb 11:1-3). I interpret this to mean that God made the material world (i.e. matter) out of things that are not material, which is what we see in the Genesis account.

    So...brace yourself in this thread. You may be in for a rough ride. Some will say that we creationists are against science, but I would say that those who preach evolution are the ones who are against TRUE science, also called PURE science, since God Himself created the laws of science.
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    I wouldn’t expect anything less from the deceived
     
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    Pleased to meet you ‘according to its kind’ :)
     
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    Dr Georgia Purdom is a good teacher on genetics...and Dr John Mackay is a good teacher full stop.
     
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    I've encountered this on other "Christian" forums so I am not worried about it.
     
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    So have I. :(
     
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    The Garden of Eden was created on an 8th day, not the 8th day.

    No one seems aware of the Sabbath being a Lord's Day. For God it was a day. For the sons of God created on day 6, it was 1000 years. Genesis 2:4-6 explains, but not with much detail. Probably won't change much these days, but if the church had taught the whole law, including the Torah from Moses till now, perhaps humanity would have not been so deceived. Who knows?
     
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    Nope
     
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    AIG is notorious for inventing ideas for other people. While they have come around to conceding much of Darwin's findings such as:

    Speciation (but they say that's not "real evolution")
    Common Descent (but only enough to account for obvious cases, and they insist that's not "real evolution")
    Natural Selection (but they say that's not "real evolution")
    Favorable Mutations (but they say that's not enough for "real evolution")

    The basic points of Darwin's theory are:

    1. More are born than can live
    2. Every individual is slightly different than every other in the population
    3. Some of these differences affect the likelihood of living long enough to reproduce
    4. The useful differences tend to accumulate over time, and the harmful ones tend to disappear, and this accounts for new species.

    All have been repeatedly verified by observation.
     
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    Factual evidence of AiG inventing ideas please :)
     
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    Jonathan Sarfati, another frequent contributor to your creationist perspective website, is no better. In his article “Exploding Stars Point to a Young Universe: Where Are All The Supernova Remnants?” first published in Creation Ex Nihilo 19:46-48 and later online at Astronomy, Sarfati tries to claim that the absence of Type III supernovas suggests that the universe is young, perhaps a few thousand years old, not billions of years as evolutionary scientists claim. He offers the following quote from Clark and Caswell in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, 1976, 174:267:

    "As the evolutionist astronomers Clark and Caswell say, ‘Why have the large number of expected remnants not been detected?’ and these authors refer to ‘The mystery of the missing remnants’."

    Sarfati conveniently forgot to finish the last sentence, which actually appears on page 301. In its entirety, it reads

    "…and the mystery of the missing remnants is also solved."
    Answers in Genesis BUSTED!: The Deception of True.Origin

    That dishonesty has since been removed, but I looked when I first heard of it, and yes, they did it. They are notorious for that kind of thing. The term "quote-mining" was coined to describe the behavior.


     
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    LOL!!! Answers in Genesis would NEVER concede to Darwin's fallacious ideas. Remember, Darwin was the guy who thought that cells were simple, not complex.... His ideas were based on this wrong assumption.

    You just misrepresented AiG's views after accusing them of "inventing ideas for other people," whatever that means. Hmm
     
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    Thanks for the info :)
     
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