Domestic Discipline - Is It Biblical?

[Angelina]

Christian Domestic Discipline Promotes Spanking Wives To Maintain Biblical Marriage
The Huffington Post | By Meredith Bennett-Smith Posted: 06/21/2013 4:17 pm EDT | Updated: 06/21/2013 4:25 pm EDT
“No fool in his right mind would buy this as a legitimate way to have a relationship,” Jim Alsdurf, a forensic psychologist who is an expert on Christian domestic abuse, told the Daily Beast. “A relationship that infantilizes a woman is one that clearly draws a more pathological group of people
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/christian-domestic-discipline-spanking-jesus-marriage_n_3479646.html

Hmmm...questionable indeed! <_< Sounds like something out of Ye Olde World England where woman were viewed as property and disciplined in a similar way.

 

[Niki]

Deja vu. Another forum I am a member of, brought up this article quite some time ago and you simply would not believe some of the responses. It was not from the newspaper
article but somewhere else on the web as this has been around since Baalam's donkey spoke up and said quit beating me.

It's a good discussion since thousands of women are still treated this way and worse and some men in THIS country think it's a good idea. Men who call
themselves Christians actually....they also agree with having more then one wife. Is there a pattern there?

Wonder if anyone will speak up...........

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

Another feminist article, to tickle the ivories!


And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully... . 1Ti 5:13-15 (Spiritual principle holds good here)

 

[Angelina]

Doesn't seem like a feminist article...more like another religious group trying to create their ideal world ;) based on erroneous doctrinal beliefs

 

[Rex]

Just another freak show flying a christian banner. Probably selling tapes and books like everyone else.

Is it biblical?
Why haven't you read all the examples, like Abrahan giving Sarah a woopin, no wait a minute that my have been on south park, I can't remember now.

 

[Angelina]

I can't recall that scripture but I do recall her calling him Lord! ^_^

 

[Rex]

I don't recall that being part of the question.
The question was "Domestic Discipline - Is It Biblical?" Not was Abraham the head of the house hold.

 

[Angelina]

I don't recall that being part of the question.
The question was "Domestic Discipline - Is It Biblical?" Not was Abraham the head of the house hold.

Obviously not in the mood for some light banter... ^_^ okay. I'm all for being serious... :huh:
I can see this turning into another Govt intervention due to people [mainly religious believers] going overboard...

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Pat Robertson: Disobedient Wives ‘Must Be Spanked’

 

[Angelina]

A few questions that come to mind when reading this article... ;)

1. Who is Pat Robertson and is he like the voice of Christianity in the US?
2....did he just add to Paul's meaning of submission? :huh:
3. Why is he telling her that she needs to be spanked when she contacted him about her unfaithful, cheating husband?

"The apostle Paul tells us in Corinthians the importance of submission. And when you lose that submission in a marriage, there's only one solution: a sound spanking on the bottom.

 

[Rex]

Pat Robertson: Disobedient Wives ‘Must Be Spanked’

Pat's letting his freaky side out of the bag LOL
Maybe Pats "700 club" television show is code for the 700 wife's club .Good thing it was a call instead of in person, Pat may have ended up with a fat lip, he was certainly asking for one.

I believe this type of belief in behavior is wide spread and winked at threw out many main stream churches.
Just as racism is alive and well it's simply not talked about but the nob and the wink affirm nothing has changed, it's simply not political correct to speak about such things but it's OK to go on and believe them.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

A few questions that come to mind when reading this article... ;)

1. Who is Pat Robertson and is he like the voice of Christianity in the US?
2....did he just add to Paul's meaning of submission? :huh:
3. Why is he telling her that she needs to be spanked when she contacted him about her unfaithful, cheating husband?

"The apostle Paul tells us in Corinthians the importance of submission. And when you lose that submission in a marriage, there's only one solution: a sound spanking on the bottom.

Pat R. used to be one of the leading voices of the evangelical movement in the US, if not the voice. He tried to get the Presidential nomination in 1988.

I have to admit that when I posted that link, my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek. It's a parody website, but in this case it came surprising close to reality. I guess... the OP link seems like parody to me.

 

[John S]

For many hundreds of years, men used the Bible as "proof" that they were the dominant partner in the marriage. Spanking their wife was EXPECTED when the wife got "uppity". Of course, not every man needed the Bible to prove his dominance. They just liked to beat up on women - and their children.
NOW this seems cruel and barbaric but that is because times have changed.

Most people will disagree with me but the people of the future MIGHT feel the same way about the abuse given to homosexuals by Christians for many hundreds of years.

 

[aspen]

Horrifying. Just goes to prove that doctrine alone (without the Holy Spirit) is dangerous.

Angelina, Pat Robertson is a crusty, senile, media whore who likes to believe he is the voice of Christianity. Most Christians ignore him, but the media continues to return to their own vomit and exploit the elderly, by quoting him. He ran for President in the late eighties when he was relevant.

I see him for what he is; a harmless embarrassment, sort of like the old, broken down zombielike man that is left over from all of the young versions of ozzy osbourne's evilness and drug use or the fat Elvis.

 

[Niki]

Another feminist article, to tickle the ivories!


And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully... . 1Ti 5:13-15 (Spiritual principle holds good here)

No sir. This is not a feminist article by any means. As I posted at the beginning. And women being spanked by their Christian husbands is funny perhaps?

It is just one more sad statement regarding what men making God over into their own image produce.

There are many things going on that bear discussion

Who is Pat Robertson and is he like the voice of Christianity in the US?

An old dinosaur that needs to retire. He has made various worthy of retirement statements, but I guess as long as people fund him, he will continue to broadcast his own
version of 'good ole boys do the Bible' Christianity.

Google him...the internet is peppered with his wit.

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

Yes this is a feminist article. It isn't difficult to discern political hackery. When one or just a few isolated examples of something is exaggerated to appear to be a prevailing trend, you know you're dealing with a hack. This is and often used strategy to cast one's political or ideological opponents as something they're not. This is not dissimilar to a CNN reporter going through a Tea Party rally in a desperate mission to find just one racist by which to type-cast the entire movement. It's shameless and Christians, who are called to Truth, should instinctively reject it.

 

[aspen]

Yes this is a feminist article. It isn't difficult to discern political hackery. When one or just a few isolated examples of something is exaggerated to appear to be a prevailing trend, you know you're dealing with a hack. This is and often used strategy to cast one's political or ideological opponents as something they're not. This is not dissimilar to a CNN reporter going through a Tea Party rally in a desperate mission to find just one racist by which to type-cast the entire movement. It's shameless and Christians, who are called to Truth, should instinctively reject it.

So you believe that this article must have been written by a Feminist because it makes all men and all Christians look abusive? I didn't see that message at all. IT merely pointed out that some whack-jobs out there, think that they need to beat their wives in order to follow the Bible. I think it just points out the fact that 'crazy' is found in every group.

 

[Niki]

So you believe that this article must have been written by a Feminist because it makes all men and all Christians look abusive? I didn't see that message at all. IT merely pointed out that some whack-jobs out there, think that they need to beat their wives in order to follow the Bible. I think it just points out the fact that 'crazy' is found in every group.

agreed. there are definitely some whack jobs out there who would like to define Christianity by their own special brand of "The Boys Club" where the sign still reads
no women allowed or a loud.

There is nothing whatsoever to do with the tea party...this is an old article that has been passed along.

Pat Robertson at his best:

Many christian leaders were upset when Pat Robertson told a viewer who was struggling to forgive her cheating husband – to get over it – because men can't help but cheat and it was probably her fault anyway.
"He cheated on you, well he's a man, okay, so what you do is begin to focus on why you married him in the first place." Robertson added, "... recognize males have a tendency to wander a little bit, and what you want to do is make the home so wonderful he doesn't want to wander."

The article is simply anti-biblical as Christ tells husbands to love their wives in a sacrificial manner as He loved the church and to honor them..spanking another adult shows
that the man has no more regard for his wife than an errant child or even the family dog



And, it's ok for a man to commit adultery because he's a man? That is so far past outrageous that you have to wonder if Mr. Robertson gives himself the same carte blanche

It's shameless and Christians, who are called to Truth, should instinctively reject it.

Actually, I shamelessly disregard being told this is a feminist matter only.

Hitting is a form of violence...spanking a child is actually biblical...as long as it is within reason...beatings are not in reason and neither is hitting
your wife. I believe a wife should call the police if her husband hits her.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

It was a parody folks.

 

[Niki]

It's not a parody. The movement exists.

These bits of information are among the tips and tricks detailed in the Beginning Domestic Discipline's "Beginner's Packet," a 54-page document that lays out the basic principles and practices of CDD.
Domestic discipline is the practice between two consenting life partners in which the head of the household (HoH) takes he necessary measures to achieve a healthy relationship dynamic; the necessary measure to create a healthy home environmental and the necessary measures to protect all members of the family from dangerous or detrimental outcomes by punishing the contributing, and thus unwanted, behaviors for the greater good of the family.

CDD is a lifestyle in which spanking and other punishments (loss of privileges, time outs, etc.) are used to maintain an orderly, Christian household, according to christiandomesticdiscipline.com. The man is dominant, and the wife is submissive, as detailed in the Bible, the site explains.

The Bible does not describe marriage as an arrangement of domination and submission.