Don't Break Under Pressure!
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Like the pressure of feminists demanding to preach in church and homosexuals demanding cerical profession. Gotcha.
WHo is feminist? Women have been preaching and exhorting in many African American Christian traditions since its inception. I don't believe in male nor female preachers for it is the Holy Ghost that speaks through whomever He chooses! As long as they preach Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God and live holy Im fine!SilenceInMotion said:
I guess this is the part where you completely undermine Paul's teaching that women shouldn't preach in church.UHCAIan said:
Perhaps the renderings of certain Pauline passages would have been better understood as "wives" ("gunaikas") as opposed to "women" (same word "gunaikas") because the wife becomes "one flesh" with her man and are both therefore to act as one, (and the man is the head of the gunaikas). This is really the only way that the phrase "neither male nor female" can be legitimately stated to be true in the kingdom of heaven and why certain ones that appear to have female gender names appear to be called "apostles" (i.e. "Junia"). The "wife" of the man is to remain silent also because in the spirit realm the "wife" is the spirit given to the man from above, (compared to the living soul which was taken from the 'adamah-soil of the earth). Such things are portrayed in Deuteronomy 13 and other similar passages which speak of the inner "wife of the bosom" whereas also Malachi 2 reveals that "the wife of our youth" (whether one is male of female gender in the flesh) is the spirit of Covenant:
Malachi 2:13-16 KJV
13. And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14. Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15. And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
16. For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
Therefore spirit is portrayed as transient and must be kept "in submission" to the man:
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 KJV
6. If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7. Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8. Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9. But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
It is not about "putting to death" real physical family members but rather the unclean spirits of your own "house" ~
Micah 7:5-6 KJV
5. Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6. For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.
Yeshua quotes Micah 7:5-6 almost verbatim: the man is the earth-soil-land and the man is the house ~
Matthew 10:34-36 KJV
34. Think not that I am come to send peace on [upon the] earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Malachi 2:13-16 KJV
13. And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14. Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15. And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
16. For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
Therefore spirit is portrayed as transient and must be kept "in submission" to the man:
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 KJV
6. If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7. Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8. Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9. But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
It is not about "putting to death" real physical family members but rather the unclean spirits of your own "house" ~
Micah 7:5-6 KJV
5. Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6. For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.
Yeshua quotes Micah 7:5-6 almost verbatim: the man is the earth-soil-land and the man is the house ~
Matthew 10:34-36 KJV
34. Think not that I am come to send peace on [upon the] earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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