EASY BELIEVISM?

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H. Richard

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It seems, to me, that most are placing their faith in what they do to earn salvation. What seems to be missing is God's work. Those that teach a child of God MUST have works to show their faith have hung the statement of James that “faith without works is dead” around the necks of those “IN CHRIST” who believe in Jesus‘ work on the cross.

To these we are just required to keep the law of good works and those works are defined by them with selected verses. Which is better, to be kind to others or to try and get them to see the salvation that Jesus paid for on the cross? Baring fruit for God isn’t a person glorifying in their own works; but glorifying the work on the cross. We are to witness to faith in Jesus’ work and not our own.

Tell me, which is better, to be kind to others or to help lead them to eternal life? It seems to me that every time a person tries to reach out to God in faith the religious works crowd hangs the requirement of works around their neck.

I am completely aware that a child of God will be lead by the Holy Spirit to do what God wishes for them to do. But that is not what the works crowd wants. They want to determine the works others are to do. Doesn’t matter if those person’s are doing what God wants them to do.

Even though I have shown that James was certainly not writing to those under grace and that he got some things wrong the religious works crowd still cling to their traditions. They will not see that placing their faith in works will not save them and as Paul writes they are under a curse. Why???? Because they trample under foot the “:completed” work of Jesus on the cross.

Heb 10:28-29
28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
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To me, it seems that, most can tell you about their faith in keeping commandment and picking up their cross of their works but they will not tell about their faith in what Jesus did on the cross. Many of the ones that testify that they have faith in Jesus’ work on the cross are even accused, by the works crowd, of not being saved by given them derogatory labels so they can accuse them of not having a true faith.

But to us who know that faith in what Jesus did on the cross is the only way to please God will never say we earn a place with God BECAUSE of our works. Now the works crowd will say that they are doing that too. If they are doing that too then way do they give statements like easy believism?

According to Paul, when a person adds works to grace they are under a curse. I, personally do not claim any works.. Does that mean I do not do any?? Off course not! It means I place no confidence in my works. If I have any it is in Godto know, not me.

But that is okay, I let others talk about how they keep Jesus’ commandment. But when, and if, they look into their hearts they would know they are not. I think God’s judgment on them for giving a boast in their own works while neglecting to boast in Jesus’ work will not bring a good out come.

But hey, that is just a person’s remarks that have been told that what I believe in is easy believism. So faith in Jesus’ work on the cross is just easy believism. So get out there and do your works.
 

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when it comes to works and how that works, Paul says it best here


1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


our God is a consuming fire

and right after that Paul goes into:


1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

not by coincidence

thing is there Richard men are always trying to justify themselves and their own judgement of what is good for themselves. but that fire Paul speaks of and Jesus says we must go through and John the Baptist said we would be baptized with (including Spirit) shall come to pass. men will receive what they desire and treasure, that doesn't mean its the treasures in Heaven.


if anyone is wondering about what that treasure could be, consider, Jesus said He was to sit at the Right Hand of Power. just consider the power to live forever in the Presence of God, not to mention anything else that matters.
 
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To me, it seems that, most can tell you about their faith in keeping commandment and picking up their cross of their works but they will not tell about their faith in what Jesus did on the cross.

What did Jesus accomplish at the Cross? Tell them, they don't know and that's why they are the ones with the "easy believism", living as the world lives.
 
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H. Richard

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Although a child of God will not see the judgement of the un-righteous at the Lake of fire I can't even imagine what those that claimed their works saved them a place in heaven when Jesus says to them.

Matt 7:21-23 ___ I Never Knew You (Luke 6:46; 13:26,27)

21 "Not everyone who says to Me,'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
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And just what is the will of the Father? It is stated that He, the Father, wants us to glorify the work of His Son.
 

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yes, Who tells you that you will DO greater things, even. So, it is also stated that you will be judged by your works. Sorry, bro :/
 

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yes, Who tells you that you will DO greater things, even. So, it is also stated that you will be judged by your works. Sorry, bro :/


it is written 'even our good works are filthy - twinc
 

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it is written 'even our good works are filthy - twinc
so then you just have to reconcile that with "you will appear before the judgement seat of Christ to give an accounting of your works," however seems best to you then. But yes, i agree, there is nothing new that i might dream up to forward the kingdom of heaven on earth, my intentional do-good efforts are mostly self-serving crap, yes, but that does not mean that i am not supposed to any works, or that works are somehow bad, it likely just means that i mostly only want to do works that i think up, and prolly don't really want to deny myself and pick up my cross and follow, what faith requires iow

because it is also written that "a good deed covers many sins," so we have to accept both in context imo
 

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And man's base desire is reward and punishment, it's how the world lives. Do good, get good, Karma is a b****, etc.


no not karma just the results of what one seeks. seek the things of the world and be very successful at it is fine but the result in God's view is what?