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Giuliano

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You know, considering God's plans for us, well, while we will not be God, Yet He had determined that we should be conformed to the image of Christ, that we share His nature.

Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the sky, and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars of heaven forever.

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Micah 4:5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.
 
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What exactly are you trying to say? That sinners will not be in the Lake of Fire? If so you are MISREPRESENTING what is in Scripture. If not then don't try to obfuscate the truth.

Exactly what I said. And exactly what Scripture said!
The devil, The beast, The false prophet is that which is in torments in the Lake of Fire Forever and Ever.....Not men.

A mans Body and Soul that is thrown in the lake of fire Is not Tormented Forever and ever...it has No LIFE in it.

Glory to God,
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How much better to accept the doctrine of eternal torments as a deterrent concerning sin in your life?

If an unsaved man is in eternal torments...
When exactly is an unsaved man given eternal life to experience eternal torment?

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You can believe that it is not a parable if you wish...at your own peril.

Huh? You are the one who said:

The Rich man and Lazarus is not a parable.


Now you say:

You can believe that it is not a parable if you wish...
at your own peril.

Now that is saying to not believe that is a parable...is to ones own peril...

Since you don't believe it is a parable...
What is your peril going to be?

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Exactly what I said. And exactly what Scripture said!
The devil, The beast, The false prophet is that which is in torments in the Lake of Fire Forever and Ever.....Not men.

A mans Body and Soul that is thrown in the lake of fire Is not Tormented Forever and ever...it has No LIFE in it.

Glory to God,
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What, then, is the second death?
 

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Ecclesiastes 9:3-6 KJV
[3] This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead. [4] For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. [5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. [6] Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
 
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What, then, is the second death?

It is the burning /consuming with Fire of all things Dead and Hell.

And Ending of all life ever again being Subject To Death.


Rev 20:
[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev.21
[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Huh? You are the one who said:



Now you say:



Now that is saying to not believe that is a parable...is to ones own peril...

Since you don't believe it is a parable...
What is your peril going to be?

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Sorry, I meant the opposite (must have had a brain f:Drt).

I meant to say that you believe it is merely a parable to your own peril.
 

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justbyfaith-
Will you answer?
It is very much like when we are dead in trespasses and sins but are alive physically (conscious).

Conscious death has to do with everlasting punishment...eternal conscious torment in the lake of fire.
 
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