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^^THIS^^ And bring in the following verses together and they say,
Jeremiah 51:19 The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee.
Jerem 51:20 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
Jerem 51:21 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;
Which would be destroying the nations by them
(but shhhh, dont mention it, but because why?)![]()
@Jay Ross, come back here when you get a chance, would you say that you understand that flood of men in Jer 51:14 that is shown as far as the nations are concerned (which would ruin any nation) which we are now seeing could also be connected to "the portion of Jacob" in verse 19 even when the LORD says, " Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;? Because you can break a person or a nation without a hand (so to speak) and the flooding of the nations with immigrants (that actually hate their host nations) being funded by "the battle axe" would just make so much sense to me.
What are your thoughts on this? I regretfully did not see your post much earlier
Just a small correction required above: -
Jeremiah 51:14 : -14 The Lord of hosts has sworn by Himself:“Surely I will fill you with men, as with locusts,And they shall lift up a shout against you.”
You really need to begin reading Jeremiah 50 from verse about verse 33: -
Jer 50:39 should be understood in this manner: -
Jeremiah 50:35-40: - 35 "A sword is against the Chaldeans," says the Lord,"Against the inhabitants of Babylon,And against her princes and her wise men. 36 A sword is against the soothsayers, and they will be fools.A sword is against her mighty men, and they will be dismayed. 37 A sword is against their horses,Against their chariots,And against all the mixed peoples who are in her midst;And they will become like women.A sword is against her treasures, and they will be robbed. 38 A drought is against her waters, and they will be dried up.For it is the place of carved images,And they are insane with their idols. 39 "Therefore the wild desert beasts shall dwell there with the jackals,And the ostriches shall dwell in it.Nor shall it be inhabited no more for a long period of time which is beyond our comprehension,It shall not be dwelt in for two ages.40 As God overthrew Sodom and GomorrahAnd their neighbours," says the Lord,"So, no one shall reside there,Nor son of man dwell in it.
My understanding is that around 120 BC the land of Babylon was stripped of her utility buildings and people, and they were disbursed throughout the empire of the Seleucid Empire around 60 years before the Roman Empire became a dominate power in the middle east.
Now if you continue reading from Jer 50:41 onwards you will read the story of the 2003 invasion of the Land of Babylon/Iraq led by the President of the USA with the support of many kings who, according to Jeremaih entered the land of Babylon to Heal the land rather than to destroy the land of Babylon.
Jeremaih 51:9-10: - 9 We would have healed Babylon,But she is not healed.Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country;For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies. 10 The Lord has revealed our righteousness.Come and let us declare in Zion the work of the Lord our God.
This then leads into Jeremiah 14 and the verses when Global raining in its season is disrupted.
Those nations by the edge of the sea are now experiencing God's wrath against them.
But acting God like is the only way they can see that they can fix their "problems" because they have lost sight of their relationship with God and cannot humble themselves and repent of their sins so that God can then act to heal their lands.
With the nations hear this cry of Jeremiah?
Here is another search, I ask,
Are the Jewish people socialist or marxist in any way seeing there are Jewish and or Hebrew orgs assisting immigrants into other countries for social welfare
Why did you need to bring Jewish people into the discussion?
No, your not, you cant find the crime so you are now in search of one in my headBut maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Let me ask a couple of questions.

Do you support Israel?

Did you approve of Israel's recent actions in Gaza?
Because the question is asked, "Like who does that to their own Nation ! clearly have been shafting their own Nations people in fact !"
And so WHO is helping with this? Because as Ben Shapiro might say, "Facts don't care bout your feelings"
Notice, I quoted a Jew, that should bring me some sort of approval (?)
No, your not, you cant find the crime so you are now in search of one in my head
Your question will be just as ignorant as
the Dems, "Do you support Ukraine"? question
Or the "Do you not believe Black Lives Matter"? question
Then go away clutching your pearls (and rejoicing in your virtue) because someone does not answer per your own scrip.
Waits for the BIG question, that shall determine all things for me
I was so waiting for you to ask, which is why I pressed, I couldn't have seen that one coming?
Let me ask you first, what do YOU mean by "support"?
IF you mean pray for our enemies as Jesus taught us and bless those who hate you, and despitefully use you. Yes I do
BUT IF by support YOU mean I should multiply my kisses to what is antichrist and/or worship at the feet of the same and never bring them into a conversation in which they could share some of the brunt of the blame foisted onto the others (who blame the tools only, for example democrats or republicans for instance). The majority of them just tools, its well known they have AIPAC handlers and the FARA Act does not apply to them (as it does to others) to disclose what is well known, I posted on this.
Help me understand how YOU personally determine those which say they ARE Jews are but are NOT
Since our King says,
Rev 2:9... I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Who are these?
And did I call them names?
Ofcourse not, because you would have searched and found something and copy pasted it here for me to use against me had I said
Phil 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Thats coming from Paul was a Jew right? So would you conclude that Paul who actually voiced that that he hated them because he just called them dogs?
He seems to have "expressed" a little of that "distaste" you lay at my feet.
Ofcourse he did not hate them he also said,
Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh
And like the democrats "support the Ukraine war" (wear a little foreign nations pin on your collar) here comes the other question
I personally do not follow the war in Gaza (by that I mean, I dont watch cable news, or have twitter/X facebook/instagram) and sit day in and day out with my ear to the ground being fed a constant diet of the propaganda of these wars, whether it be Ukraine, or Gaza. Oviously, I am not completely oblivious to the wars, its near impossible to be. I just don't follow all the news on the day to day on any of them. I will listen to a synopsis in between times as the fog of war passes.
And I do tune into Candace Owens for example, and I understand she is against this war, but her stand is not mine, she is more emotionally invested and affected, and she is taking the heat for that also. Because you must be "for war" and "for Israel" in all things if you want to survive being an influencer without "being troubled" which is why I believe she is being pummeled as she is. But at the same time (in times past) when that would typically sink you (main stream media, for instance) the internet is not yet as locked down and we are seeing there are more and more people taking note of things concerning Israel (this was also pointed out in Charlie Kirk's letter (if you havent read it yet, look it up) He could not hold the PR line for them on all the fronts he was being called to. And he himself expressed a love for the people of Israel and its right to have a nation, but he put a difference between its government and the actual people. In another video he called out a possible governmantal stand down order by "the government of" against "the people of". But people don't often make those distinctions right away, ALL of Israel IS Israel to them without question. Anyone who questions any one who might question such a thing is called (ironically) AntiSEMITE, so while most are looking out for those who might not agree with antichrists so they can "demonize" them as being some sort of psuedo AntiCHRIST figure,
Its an ingenius move actually, and it works.
Which should bring us back to Jesus words who is pointing out to the churches, that there are these Jews which say they ARE JEWS but ARE NOT. But you supposedly cannot take up what Jesus points out to us there, or quote Paul without being smeared as Jew hater
Which is actually convenient, would love to see who wrote the scrip on that one.
Regardless of which war, I dont agree with wars in general, but Jesus said these things must be, so I accept the fact there are wars. As far as support, I live in the U.S and our tax money is taken to support whatever war our representatives are told to support, regardless of whether you (or I) agree with a war or not. So any question concerning someone personally agreeing with a war or supporting a war is sort of a lame question.
As far as Israels's recent activity in Gaza, I am absolutely clueless, I was going to watch some Jewish guy (Norman Finklestein) in a documentary on it to catch up, which Candace Owens had put out on Friday, but I couldn't even keep my eyes opened to watch it. Its almost 3 ours long and I think I made to around the 15 minute mark and turned it off. I believe he (also being a Jew) is against the war, stating in the trailer for this documentary that there is a billionaire donor class that wants it, and so even the Jews are divided, even against their own government.
The sides issue is really a non issue, because you side with the Jewish people against the war you are labeled anti semitic but if you agree with the Jewish people for the war, you are cool (not anti semetic).
Jesus had informed us that there are those who said they were Jews and are not, before he was assisinated, Charlie Kirk appeared to have chosen the people in Israel, as far as the general population (over the government of Israel). His letter to Netanyahu was basically telling him to get a new PR team here, because he can't handle it on his own anymore.
Probably a little more than you wanted to know, and less than I wanted to share.
Anymore "gotcha" questions for me?
Edit:typo
I never heard of C Kirk before that he was Killed by lovers of all Anti-Christ !Because the question is asked, "Like who does that to their own Nation ! clearly have been shafting their own Nations people in fact !"
And so WHO is helping with this? Because as Ben Shapiro might say, "Facts don't care bout your feelings"
Notice, I quoted a Jew, that should bring me some sort of approval (?)
No, your not, you cant find the crime so you are now in search of one in my head
Your question will be just as ignorant as
the Dems, "Do you support Ukraine"? question
Or the "Do you not believe Black Lives Matter"? question
Then go away clutching your pearls (and rejoicing in your virtue) because someone does not answer per your own scrip.
Waits for the BIG question, that shall determine all things for me
I was so waiting for you to ask, which is why I pressed, I couldn't have seen that one coming?
Let me ask you first, what do YOU mean by "support"?
IF you mean pray for our enemies as Jesus taught us and bless those who hate you, and despitefully use you. Yes I do
BUT IF by support YOU mean I should multiply my kisses to what is antichrist and/or worship at the feet of the same and never bring them into a conversation in which they could share some of the brunt of the blame foisted onto the others (who blame the tools only, for example democrats or republicans for instance). The majority of them just tools, its well known they have AIPAC handlers and the FARA Act does not apply to them (as it does to others) to disclose what is well known, I posted on this.
Help me understand how YOU personally determine those which say they ARE Jews are but are NOT
Since our King says,
Rev 2:9... I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Who are these?
And did I call them names?
Ofcourse not, because you would have searched and found something and copy pasted it here for me to use against me had I said
Phil 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Thats coming from Paul was a Jew right? So would you conclude that Paul who actually voiced that that he hated them because he just called them dogs?
He seems to have "expressed" a little of that "distaste" you lay at my feet.
Ofcourse he did not hate them he also said,
Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh
And like the democrats "support the Ukraine war" (wear a little foreign nations pin on your collar) here comes the other question
I personally do not follow the war in Gaza (by that I mean, I dont watch cable news, or have twitter/X facebook/instagram) and sit day in and day out with my ear to the ground being fed a constant diet of the propaganda of these wars, whether it be Ukraine, or Gaza. Oviously, I am not completely oblivious to the wars, its near impossible to be. I just don't follow all the news on the day to day on any of them. I will listen to a synopsis in between times as the fog of war passes.
And I do tune into Candace Owens for example, and I understand she is against this war, but her stand is not mine, she is more emotionally invested and affected, and she is taking the heat for that also. Because you must be "for war" and "for Israel" in all things if you want to survive being an influencer without "being troubled" which is why I believe she is being pummeled as she is. But at the same time (in times past) when that would typically sink you (main stream media, for instance) the internet is not yet as locked down and we are seeing there are more and more people taking note of things concerning Israel (this was also pointed out in Charlie Kirk's letter (if you havent read it yet, look it up) He could not hold the PR line for them on all the fronts he was being called to. And he himself expressed a love for the people of Israel and its right to have a nation, but he put a difference between its government and the actual people. In another video he called out a possible governmantal stand down order by "the government of" against "the people of". But people don't often make those distinctions right away, ALL of Israel IS Israel to them without question. Anyone who questions any one who might question such a thing is called (ironically) AntiSEMITE, so while most are looking out for those who might not agree with antichrists so they can "demonize" them as being some sort of psuedo AntiCHRIST figure,
Its an ingenius move actually, and it works.
Which should bring us back to Jesus words who is pointing out to the churches, that there are these Jews which say they ARE JEWS but ARE NOT. But you supposedly cannot take up what Jesus points out to us there, or quote Paul without being smeared as Jew hater
Which is actually convenient, would love to see who wrote the scrip on that one.
Regardless of which war, I dont agree with wars in general, but Jesus said these things must be, so I accept the fact there are wars. As far as support, I live in the U.S and our tax money is taken to support whatever war our representatives are told to support, regardless of whether you (or I) agree with a war or not. So any question concerning someone personally agreeing with a war or supporting a war is sort of a lame question.
As far as Israels's recent activity in Gaza, I am absolutely clueless, I was going to watch some Jewish guy (Norman Finklestein) in a documentary on it to catch up, which Candace Owens had put out on Friday, but I couldn't even keep my eyes opened to watch it. Its almost 3 ours long and I think I made to around the 15 minute mark and turned it off. I believe he (also being a Jew) is against the war, stating in the trailer for this documentary that there is a billionaire donor class that wants it, and so even the Jews are divided, even against their own government.
The sides issue is really a non issue, because you side with the Jewish people against the war you are labeled anti semitic but if you agree with the Jewish people for the war, you are cool (not anti semetic).
Jesus had informed us that there are those who said they were Jews and are not, before he was assisinated, Charlie Kirk appeared to have chosen the people in Israel, as far as the general population (over the government of Israel). His letter to Netanyahu was basically telling him to get a new PR team here, because he can't handle it on his own anymore.
Probably a little more than you wanted to know, and less than I wanted to share.
Anymore "gotcha" questions for me?
Edit:typo
I never heard of C Kirk before that he was Killed by lovers of all Anti-Christ !
I support Israels PM Ben all the way ! he is great and a fantastic Leader !
The MSM make out that PM Ben is the bad guy, just as they do with Trump, it's all total BS Propaganda for fools to swallow ! because that's how Socialist always play the Game !
So anything that is not Socialist or Communist is all branded as being seen as The far Right ! when it's not far right at all, it's just norman Right Wing values in fact !
The Socialist Tactics are all on par with that of Hitlers Nazi and any Communist dictatorship Propaganda Game Play in fact !
Hamas brought on the Terror and still is ! but they are clearly backed up by the Socialist West and MSM Whore ! as if Israel's PM was all to blame ? how retarded ! it was clearly the Socialist in Israel, that let this Mob of Terrorist in to attack Israel in fact !
I could not care less what Kirk thinks about the State of Israel. why well he can not openly debate anyone on it now.I hadn't heard much at all of this Charilie Kirk until his death, I didn't even know he had a channel, or knew who he really was, or that he believed in and preached Jesus Christ. Totally new to me, but this story concerning him peeked my curiosity.
Me and you are not in agreement on the PM /gov part of Israel, and after hearing about Charlie Kirks predicament with the governmental end and its billionaire donor class and its tentacles of interests in the U.S even in the conservative arm of things I believe he got a real eyefull and began to rethink and question some things. Which might not have been too clear to him in the beginning (which might take more than just a little research, if up close personal experience is lacking ). I think its a little difficult to see this vast network of levers being pulled at various levels to bring about what is necessary by the will of God.
And I might not desire the destruction of the country I live in or approve of certain things I consider evil, but I have come to accept that this is how it has to be and no longer buy the whole shut up you must be antisemite tactics that are often used. There is nothing wrong with exposing something regardless of what nation you belong to, Peter even said, God is not a respector of persons.
Not into the whole worship the natural Israel thing. i did end up watching the rest of the documentary with that Jewish guy (that starts slow) I learned some thing I never knew today.
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Candace Owens x Norman Finkelstein
I sit down with Norman to discuss Israel, the holocaust, and his upcoming book, GAZA’S GRAVEDIGGERS An Inquiry into Corruption in High Places. Buy his book, GAZA’S GRAVEDIGGERS An Inquiry into Corruptrumble.com
I have a hard time with being slow walked through things, I will fall asleep, and he sort of has that effect, but I took breaks 20 minutes and came back to it, thought the interview was boring but the information in it worth the watch if anyone is interested
It is true that the muslim of islam is a threat .Musk is referring to the long-established Christian based culture, law and order, perishing in the UK.
That will be gone forever., they will cease to be a people.
Honestly, it is too late, I think, for a successful turnabout.
What will they do? Expel all the Islamic immigrants?
Some European countries, like Poland and Hungary have held their country, culture, way of life, together.
The UK has no free speech anymore.
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LONDON — More than 100,000 people descended on Britain’s capital on Saturday for one of the country’s largest far-right rallies in decades.
The “Unite the Kingdom” rally was organized by Tommy Robinson, a convicted fraudster with a violent criminal record, and attended by billionaire Elon Musk via video link. Amid a sea of flag-waving and soccer-style chanting from large crowds that exceeded expectations, violent clashes with police led to dozens of arrests.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday that Britain would “never surrender” to far-right protesters and condemned attacks against police officers as well as the racist intimidation of minorities.
The English flag “represents our diverse country,” he said.
But the march came amid a surge of nationalism in the U.K., with a far-right party topping the polls, and the murder of American conservative activist Charlie Kirk — an assassination Robinson used to mobilize support in the run-up to the event.
Robinson — whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon — has long inspired rallies of mostly white, mostly male followers campaigning against Islam and immigration.
He billed Saturday's event as Britain’s “largest free speech festival.”
In a video link to the rally, billionaire Musk called for a change of government in Britain and railed against the "woke mind virus" and "uncontrolled immigration."
“My appeal is to British common sense, which is to look carefully around you and say: ‘If this continues, what world will you be living in?’" said Musk, who has previously spoken out in support of Robinson and other far-right causes across the world. “Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die, that’s the truth, I think.”
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Tens of thousands join far-right rally in London where Charlie Kirk was mourned
“Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die," Elon Musk told the large crowds at Saturday's “Unite the Kingdom” rally.www.nbcnews.com
I could not care less what Kirk thinks about the State of Israel. why well he can not openly debate anyone on it now.
@amigo de christoIt is true that the muslim of islam is a threat .
But they can kill only the body .
The biggest and most powerful enemy has come cloaked in wool
and it has and will merge all false religoins and the sold out nominal christain to be as one .
While it is true that muslim extremists have killed
While it is true that even the RCC in times past has killed
as well as did the protestant realm .
I TELL US ALL t his all inclusive love god and its men and women WHO have well ruled over the nations
will produce far more blood than the rest of them all did combined .
THE REAL THREAT , the MOST dangerous threat has come claoked under guise it is love
and it has the solution for world peace n safety .
NOW DO SOME research . FOR in times past often man has come in the name of peace
and has promised a utopia , I NEVER SEEN that without shedding of blood .
THIS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT , ONLY much more blood it will spill . GET F AR away from
and do not in any way be a co helper to this ecuminecal interfaith . Anti christs of many tribes now do its bidding .
And while its true this new digitally led system and its men can and will in time kill many
THEY can only kill the body
BUT UNTO ALL who merged with them , YOUR SOUL WILL BE DESTROYED , FOR STRONG IS THE LORD
GOD ALL MIGHTY and THE LAMB who shall pour HIS wrath upon this anti christ generation . who loved and had made a lie .

@amigo de christoIt is true that the muslim of islam is a threat .
But they can kill only the body .
The biggest and most powerful enemy has come cloaked in wool
and it has and will merge all false religoins and the sold out nominal christain to be as one .
While it is true that muslim extremists have killed
While it is true that even the RCC in times past has killed
as well as did the protestant realm .
I TELL US ALL t his all inclusive love god and its men and women WHO have well ruled over the nations
will produce far more blood than the rest of them all did combined .
THE REAL THREAT , the MOST dangerous threat has come claoked under guise it is love
and it has the solution for world peace n safety .
NOW DO SOME research . FOR in times past often man has come in the name of peace
and has promised a utopia , I NEVER SEEN that without shedding of blood .
THIS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT , ONLY much more blood it will spill . GET F AR away from
and do not in any way be a co helper to this ecuminecal interfaith . Anti christs of many tribes now do its bidding .
And while its true this new digitally led system and its men can and will in time kill many
THEY can only kill the body
BUT UNTO ALL who merged with them , YOUR SOUL WILL BE DESTROYED , FOR STRONG IS THE LORD
GOD ALL MIGHTY and THE LAMB who shall pour HIS wrath upon this anti christ generation . who loved and had made a lie .

Well, really not so funny, actually.
Macron is the one that's flooded France with Islamists and who supports Hamas and despises Israel.Macron is trying.
Well, really not so funny, actually.
This has been coming for a long time and we, especially Christians, have allowed it by not responding to it forecfully.