End times time frames by chapter and fit

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Douggg

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Here are all the end times times frames in the bible by chapter in the order they appear in the first diagram. Then by fit in the second diagram.

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I appreciate all the views I have been getting. I hope the first diagram listing all the end times prophecy time frames is helpful for everyone.
 

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Christ said the trib would be shortened but that is not reflected in the diagram. It can't be the same exact length it originally was and still have been shortened.
 

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diagram 1 is a list of all the end times time frames. Should be no disagreement over the list. Amazingly, the time frames are in just three books of the bible.

diagram 2, the fit, others may have a different view and will have to determine the fit for themselves.
 

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Christ said the trib would be shortened but that is not reflected in the diagram. It can't be the same exact length it originally was and still have been shortened.
The 7 year 2520 day time frame is shortened to 2300 days (Dan 8:14)
 

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diagram 1 is a list of all the end times time frames. Should be no disagreement over the list. Amazingly, the time frames are in just three books of the bible.

diagram 2, the fit, others may have a different view and will have to determine the fit for themselves.

AGAIN....the 7 and 62 weeks prophesied are specifically only to the coming of Messiah the Prince. That's the prophesy, which I went into detail on Daniel study elsewhere. Then it continues, after the 62 weeks Messiah is cut off and He confirms the covenant for 1 week. It doesn't say when Messiah comes he is immediately cut off, because that would be ridiculous and confusion. There has to be time between Messiah's coming, and His cutting off. The prophesy is specifically to the coming of Messiah, and the word of God shows this official fulfillment was in 29AD. Then the prophesy continues, after the 69 weeks Messiah is cut off, but not for Himself. So the question is, "when, after," and the answer is, obviously at the cross.

Again, these are not literal weeks or time periods that we add up like years. This final week has lasted 2000 years, the 62 previous only 434, and the 7 before that only 38 years. There are no missing years, there is no gap between 29AD and 33AD because there was never a prophecy of literal years. The 70th week is after the coming of Messiah and after the 69 weeks, as was prophesied. The cutting off of Messiah was not prophesied to be 69 and 1 week. They aren't weeks at all, it is literally 70 sevens or "complete" time periods. I think you are trying to count the 69 weeks as literal years. That's a no, no. They aren't literally 70 weeks of years. There is one key directing us to the Jubilee period, and its not literal years. There is another key to the coming of Messiah, and its not 62 years. And another for the whole New Covenant period, and its not a week (or 7). Yet there is complete symmetry, harmony, and cohesiveness to it all. Three distinct periods, one "COMPLETE" time signified by the number 70!

Now, Douggg...I think that is where a lot of date setters get into trouble, including your charts attempting to add "literal years", when God has never prophesied it that way. Whether 70 weeks of Daniel, 1260 days in the wilderness, 1000 years of Revelation, 2300 days before the sanctuary will be cleansed, or the 3 1/2 days the two witnesses lay in the streets, or 42 months, or 5 months, etc. God doesn't work that way, these are all spiritual lengths of time. There are no gaps in these times, because they were never meant as literal years. They are "KEYS" directing us to certain spiritual truths occurring at certain times. The anointing, the Church age, the New Covenant Millennial period, etc.
 

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There has to be time between Messiah's coming, and His cutting off.
Yes, 4 days.

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, the Passover week that he would be crucified. Hailed as the king of Israel who comes in the name of Lord, John 12:12-15. 4 days later, Jesus was crucified on the eve of the Passover, Friday. as God's passover Lamb. Jesus was in the grave Friday night, Saturday, and rose from the grave on Sunday.
 

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Now, Douggg...I think that is where a lot of date setters get into trouble, including your charts attempting to add "literal years", when God has never prophesied it that way. Whether 70 weeks of Daniel, 1260 days in the wilderness, 1000 years of Revelation, 2300 days before the sanctuary will be cleansed, or the 3 1/2 days the two witnesses lay in the streets, or 42 months, or 5 months, etc. God doesn't work that way, these are all spiritual lengths of time. There are no gaps in these times, because they were never meant as literal years. They are "KEYS" directing us to certain spiritual truths occurring at certain times. The anointing, the Church age, the New Covenant Millennial period, etc

Well, make yourself a diagram 2 like I did and post it.
 

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Yes, 4 days.

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, the Passover week that he would be crucified. Hailed as the king of Israel who comes in the name of Lord, John 12:12-15. 4 days later, Jesus was crucified on the eve of the Passover, Friday. as God's passover Lamb. Jesus was in the grave Friday night, Saturday, and rose from the grave on Sunday.

Nope.

The appearance of the Messiah, the Prince, occurred when He was baptized to begin His ministry in 29 AD, which was also a Jubilee year. He had a ministry that lasted three and a half years until He was cut off at the Cross. This period was still part of the 62 weeks, indicating that there was time left between His baptism until it concluded at the Cross. Simultaneously, at the time of the Crucifixion, He confirmed a new covenant with many (the Elect) for one week. Therefore, the 69th week (comprising 7 plus 62) ended at the Cross, marking the beginning of the final week, the 70th week.

No Gap! :-)
 
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The appearance of the Messiah, the Prince, occurred when He was baptized to begin His ministry
No, Jesus did not appear in Jerusalem when he was baptized. Jesus was baptized in the wilderness, the Jordan river.

The arrival of Jesus as the messiah in Jerusalem is in John 12:12-15.



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No, Jesus did not appear in Jerusalem when he was baptized. Jesus was baptized in the wilderness, the Jordan river.

The arrival of Jesus as the messiah in Jerusalem is in John 12:12-15.
The prophecy doesn't say there would be 69 weeks "unto the Messiah the Prince appearing in Jerusalem". It's referring to when Jesus would first be revealed as the Messiah which was when John the Baptist announced it with His baptism.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; 36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

All of these things that John the Baptist said about Jesus, such as calling Him "the Lamb of God" and "the Son of God" made it clear that He was the Messiah prophesied about in the Old Testament.
 
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The prophecy doesn't say there would be 69 weeks "unto the Messiah the Prince appearing in Jerusalem". It's referring to when Jesus would first be revealed as the Messiah which was when John the Baptist announced it with His baptism.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

It is talking about the messiah's arrival to Jerusalem in that verse. The verse is speaking about activity to take place in Jerusalem.
 

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The 7 year 2520 day time frame is shortened to 2300 days (Dan 8:14)


Except Christ said the time was shortened, which would mean the shortening was new at the time of him teaching that. The typical interp. is that it was a 7 year trib, then in Rev we see the beast having 42 months which is half of the 7 years. I thus believe 7 years was shortened in half with the exact change in time not revealed until Rev.
 

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Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

It is talking about the messiah's arrival to Jerusalem in that verse. The verse is speaking about activity to take place in Jerusalem.
The prophecy doesn't say there would be 69 weeks "unto the Messiah the Prince appearing in Jerusalem". It's referring to when Jesus would first be revealed as the Messiah which was when John the Baptist announced it with His baptism.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; 36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

All of these things that John the Baptist said about Jesus, such as calling Him "the Lamb of God" and "the Son of God" made it clear that He was the Messiah prophesied about in the Old Testament.
 

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The prophecy doesn't say there would be 69 weeks "unto the Messiah the Prince appearing in Jerusalem".
Daniel 9:25 speaks about activities to take place in Jerusalem.

Daniel 9:25 does not speak about the length of the messiah's ministry ( 3 1/2 years from baptism in the wilderness to cutoff in Jerusalem).

The messiah would arrive and be cufoff after 69 weeks, not after 69 1/2 weeks.

Between Jesus arrival as the messiah in Jerusalem and His being cutoff, 4 days passed.
 
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Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

It is talking about the messiah's arrival to Jerusalem in that verse. The verse is speaking about activity to take place in Jerusalem.

The baptism was when Christ officially began His role as high priest. This is the year he was ANOINTED by the Holy Spirit and was "announced" and baptized by John the Baptist. This is when God had the Dove descent upon Him, and of His officially taking on His office. This is the acceptable year when (as it was written), John, having prepared the way, gave way to Christ. John had prepared the way for this, "HIS COMING," not "appearance in Jersualem."

This is why John said that now he had to decrease, while Christ increased. This is why Jesus said, 'the TIME is fulfilled, the Kingdom of God is at hand.' This is the acceptable year, this is the time of His anointing. This is when Jesus went to the Temple, opened up the book of Isaiah, and read:

Luke 4:18-21
  • "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He hath Anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
  • To preach the Acceptable Year of the Lord.
  • and He closed the book, and He gave it again to the minister and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on Him.
  • and He began to say unto them, This day is this scripture Fulfilled in your ears."
Is this the acceptable Year? That's what the scriptures tell us! Not only is it confirmed by Christ Himself that this is the acceptable year, Jesus goes a step further and tells us plainly, "This DAY is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." In other words, that prophecy of the coming of Messiah was talking about this year, this time. And Jesus went out and was ANOINTED by the Holy Spirit. This was the year of the official anointing of the Messiah. John had prepared the way, and Jesus came after (John 1:30), to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And He preaches for 3 and 1/2 years, and was crucified in 33 A.D.

God did not talk about the acceptable year when Christ rode down into Jersualem as you think.