Fact or Fiction?

[Enoch111]

If it was as bad as they say then the anti-vax people could produce tons of real scientific proof

Why don't you read the actual study done by Pfizer and see how bogus everything is? The "real scientific proof" is the ABSENCE OF PROOF that this is a real vaccine.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

 

[historyb]

The conclusion pretty much disagrees with your premise:

A two-dose regimen of BNT162b2 conferred 95% protection against Covid-19 in persons 16 years of age or older. Safety over a median of 2 months was similar to that of other viral vaccines. (Funded by BioNTech and Pfizer; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04368728. opens in new tab.)

https://www.nejm.org/do/10.1056/NEJMdo005933/full/

 

[April_Rose]

It can still be carried after the vaccine, it can still sit on your nose, mouth, face, arms, legs, if you go near or come into contact with someone with covid, or come into contact with covid that's on a surface. So it can still be spread.

Informative.

 

[Truman]

One can walk down the street and get hit in the head with a meteor...

 

[April_Rose]

One can walk down the street and get hit in the head with a meteor...

Very true, but what does that have to do with anything?

 

[lforrest]

One can walk down the street and get hit in the head with a meteor...

How big a lie do you have to tell to be struck by a meteror instead of lightning?

 

[DuckieLady]

Very true, the flu has never gone away totally so we get shots for it. The anti-vaccine people maybe will never understand this they are set in their ways. I say maybe because there is a chance that some anti-vaccine people will change their mind when they throw off conspiracy theories

I haven't had a flu shot in like 14 years.
I don't get the flu shot.
One nurse asked me why.
I said, "Every time I get the flu shot I get the flu." She said, "I'm the same way, so I don't get it either. Some people are like that. I don't know why."

I've had both bird flu and swine flu. Those are the last two times that I've had the flu.
Maybe my immune system doesn't want to be interfered with.
I'm not getting this one either. They can sit right down.
Touch me with that needle and I will break someone's arm.

"Get your stinkin' paws off me, you dirty ape."

 

[April_Rose]

I haven't had a flu shot in like 14 years.
I don't get the flu shot.
One nurse asked me why.
I said, "Every time I get the flu shot I get the flu." She said, "I'm the same way, so I don't get it either. Some people are like that. I don't know why."

I've had both bird flu and swine flu. Those are the last two times that I've had the flu.
Maybe my immune system doesn't want to be interfered with.
I'm not getting this one either. They can sit right down.
Touch me with that needle and I will break someone's arm.

Well at the same time I don't think you would try to get anybody not to take it either. At least, I hope so.

 

[DuckieLady]

Well at the same time I don't think you would try to get anybody not to take it either. At least, I hope so.

I believe everyone has a choice and I don't care what anyone else does. :) But I'm exempt.

 

[DuckieLady]

How big a lie do you have to tell to be struck by a meteror instead of lightning?

"The fish was this big" stories but told twice

 

[lforrest]

Ah more conspiracy theories ;)

Maybe, but a scary one.
Bill Gates Vaccine Ingredient Says it All : An Enzyme Called LUCIFERASE is What Makes Bill Gates Implantable Vaccine Work - VACCINE ID - Stillness in the Storm

 

[quietthinker]

Fiction believed as truth/fact has been the domain of countless millions throughout bygone cultures. Are you so sure that you are exempt?

My wife at the time and I travelled the world for a couple of years in our younger years....on a shoestring. Many of the countries we visited were in poverty and unclean. My wife decided to get whatever shots were recommended. I choose to take concentrated vitamin C powder which I took daily (yep, it took up precious space in the backpack) The long and short of it was, she got the illnesses she was 'immunised' against and I didn't. Draw your own conclusions!

 

[DuckieLady]

Fiction believed as truth/fact has been the domain of countless millions throughout bygone cultures. Are you so sure that you are exempt?

My wife at the time and I travelled the world for a couple of years in our younger years....on a shoestring. Many of the countries we visited were in poverty and unclean. My wife decided to get whatever shots were recommended. I choose to take concentrated vitamin C powder which I took daily (yep, it took up precious space in the backpack) The long and short of it was, she got the illnesses she was 'immunised' against and I didn't. Draw your own conclusions!

Yes, for religious reasons. Not using that as a cop out but really for religious reasons.

We rarely see doctors either unless it can't be cured at home or it's an emergency. Most things are cured at home with natural methods.

Edit: I might have misunderstood who you were speaking to when you mentioned being exempt... LOL Sorry, if so.

 

[quietthinker]

Yes, for religious reasons. Not using that as a cop out but really for religious reasons.

We rarely see doctors either unless it can't be cured at home or it's an emergency. Most things are cured at home with natural methods.

Edit: I might have misunderstood who you were speaking to when you mentioned being exempt... LOL Sorry, if so.

My choice was not for religious reasons. It was because of my understanding of what gives the body the best chance of resisting an illness and that understanding excluded having a substance injected into my circulatory system.

 

[Mosheli]

Exactly, they offer no proof just more theories. I asked for proof and got accused of attacking the person because they have no proof and have to lie, very sad. If it was as bad as they say then the anti-vax people could produce tons of real scientific proof

Its the people who are pushing the things like vaccination etc that have to provide the proof not the objectors.
Most common people do not have the scientific ways and means to be able to conduct scientific experiments, and what evidences they may have are always dismissed for some claimed reason.
So people are forced to trust the "experts", and/or we have to judge for ourselves from their track record and the evidences and out instinct/intuition. Unless some alternative scientist dares to speak out.
The elite don't provide complete proofs of all brain and body effects. And I'm not taking anything unless I know the ingredients and sideeffects.
I don't have much info on this vaccination, but in the case of fluoridation I have plenty of evidences (and there are some professionals/Drs/dentists/studies with evidence of harm but they are ignored). (Earlier today I was on the phone with a lawyer about taking legal action/litigation about fluoridation and she basically said that yes it is true that they are evading the root causes of tooth decay (and thus have no right to be forcing fluoridation) and yes there are new studies evidences of harms an yes it is totally unfair forcing but the court and government nevertheless consider it lawful.)
Its not fair they are wanting to force us. I don't bow to anyone as if they are gods and have the right to force us just because they claim to be experts/science. If vaccination works then the only people at risk are us who decline. I'd rather die of covid than be a fluoridated etc slave for rest of "life" anyway. They won't stop forcing fluoridation so I'm not accepting that vaccination.

 

[Truman]

How big a lie do you have to tell to be struck by a meteror instead of lightning?

A whopper, a whale? A gigantic fish tale?

 

[Taken]

My choice was not for religious reasons. It was because of my understanding of what gives the body the best chance of resisting an illness and that understanding excluded having a substance injected into my circulatory system.

Bingo!

 

[Taken]

Fact or Fiction?
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Shooter- The Movie.

 

[Cristo Rei]

That wearing a mask should still be required even after getting the vaccine? How can we still be carriers of it if we've gotten vaccinated for it? @JohnDB, @historyb?

The anti-vaxers predicted this yet all they can do is pour more labels and slogans onto us for being right



They hate the fact that all our predictions have come true



Anti-vaxers correct predictions = 56
Brainwashed correct predictions = 0

So who do u listen to??? The people that are right.
Or the people that are wrong and continue run around in a state of panic, lies and fear...
Choose wisely

 

[Enoch111]

The anti-vaxers predicted this yet all they can do is pour more labels and slogans onto us for being right

When there is no valid defense, then demonizing those who are on the right track is the only option.

Even though Trump was hardly a dictator, he was labeled Hitler and Mussolini to incite hatred against him. And it worked.