Finite Sin, but Everlasting Hell

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Some basic claifications

In relation to Hell, torture is not the same thing as torment.

1) Torture versus torment:

Torture is The sadistic infliction of pain for mere enjoyment or sport.

Torment is the result of choice(s) made whereby the outcome becomes torment to the individual.

Now, let's cover some reasons for the reasons for an everlasting Hell.

2) The duration of any sin is not a factor, and is therefore insignificant when asking why Hell is everlasting for finite sins.

Example: If I embezzle $1 each day from the cash register of my employers store, I end up with about $365 at the end of the year I stole. That is only a misdemeanor in most states. If I murder someone, which can take a second or two, I can be sent to prison for life or placed on death row for execution.

3) The magnitude of the authority is a tremendous factor in the level of punishment one receives.

If I fenagle last year's tax return by a couple thousand dollars to my favor and my son sees it, he will have less respect for me. If the IRS notices the error, they will fine me and charge penalties if they don't decide to make an example out of me for the act with prison time.

4) The depths of the sins we commit determine the level of punishment received.

If I slug my neighbor for calling me names, that's assault and likely will result in our never being able to become friends.

Were I to have rejected believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ on the third day and then I die in my sins, all without having done any harm to my neighbor or anyone else, I would end up in Hell.

This shows to us the error in understanding sin in relation to God, His level of authority and the level of offense sin is to a perfect and holy God. Experiences in this world and looking upon sin as having anything to do with proportionality between sins against each other and against God, that viewpoint is simply wrong. For context, see point number three above.

Does this help in seeing why Hell is everlasting?

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Wanna hear a real simple solution .
Rather than trying to figure out what all the lake of fire entials , hell entials .
I have THE ANSWER to this all .
I mean its a real simple one too .
THOSE WHOSE FAITH BE IN CHRIST , WONT NEVER SEE such a place .
See how easy that is . I shudder for all ,however who did reject Him . gonna be worse for them than ever it was for sodom .
According TO JESUS . and JESUS i beleive . So i have the answer
i have the ONLY solution . BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . real simple is ya ask me .
Oh and one more thing , lets make sure ITS JESUS we follow and love
rather than another jesus , cause them other jesus created of men , who sure seems to overlook sins
and even accepts sins and now even UNBLEIEF , YEAH its NOT JESUS , its the devil in wool decieving them all .
 
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Wanna hear a real simple solution .
Rather than trying to figure out what all the lake of fire entials , hell entials .
I have THE ANSWER to this all .
I mean its a real simple one too .
THOSE WHOSE FAITH BE IN CHRIST , WONT NEVER SEE such a place .
See how easy that is . I shudder for all ,however who did reject Him . gonna be worse for them than ever it was for sodom .
According TO JESUS . and JESUS i beleive . So i have the answer
i have the ONLY solution . BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . real simple is ya ask me .
Oh and one more thing , lets make sure ITS JESUS we follow and love
rather than another jesus , cause them other jesus created of men , who sure seems to overlook sins
and even accepts sins and now even UNBLEIEF , YEAH its NOT JESUS , its the devil in wool decieving them all .

This thread is based upon the question about Hell and the justice for it being everlasting. There are several out there who don't understand the justice behind people being allowed to suffer the torment of their own choices. They ask why finite sins are not paid for through finite torment. This addresses those questions through the points made as comparisons.

Hell is also somewhat an answer to the question of harm. It's the result of the freedom we have been given to make choices in this life. This thread exists to point out why sins committed here in this life, although not everlasting in the effects here and now, do have shockwave effects both in Heaven and in Hell. Just as there are degrees of torment in Hell, there are degrees of reward in Heaven for the saved by way of the good works done here and the sins that chip away at those rewards.

1 Corinthians 3:15 — If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

And:

2 Timothy 2:13 — If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Paul, in 2 Timithy, obviously speaking to believers, showed to us the abiding Christ has toward all who are saved from Hell. That it violates the sensibilities of some who claim to be saved, that a believer can fall away into disbelief and is still saved, although perhaps without reward, that level of jealousy causes me to question THEIR salvation. Pretending as though there is some elusive, undefinable line, stepping over which will allegedly nullify one's salvation, no. Paul called directly upon the faithfulness of Christ on this, and when anyone questions Christ's very faithfulness, on ANY basis apart from unbelief from beginning to end of a life, they do indeed place themselves into a glaring light of question about their own faith...and/or lack thereof.

So while I agree with you, I just wanted to point out the much broader scope of my OP.

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Wanna hear a real simple solution .
Rather than trying to figure out what all the lake of fire entials , hell entials .
I have THE ANSWER to this all .
I mean its a real simple one too .
THOSE WHOSE FAITH BE IN CHRIST , WONT NEVER SEE such a place .
See how easy that is . I shudder for all ,however who did reject Him . gonna be worse for them than ever it was for sodom .
According TO JESUS . and JESUS i beleive . So i have the answer
i have the ONLY solution . BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . real simple is ya ask me .
Oh and one more thing , lets make sure ITS JESUS we follow and love
rather than another jesus , cause them other jesus created of men , who sure seems to overlook sins
and even accepts sins and now even UNBLEIEF , YEAH its NOT JESUS , its the devil in wool decieving them all .
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