Ok.....................
We where here in spirit....... then in Gen 1 man was given a flesh body.
in the first earth age there was judgement. Judgement is just that, it can be judged as good or judged as bad.
So, those judged good in the first earth age, were given a second chance so to speak and put in flesh bodies.
(No matter how we dress it up JerryJohnson, that by all definition is reincarnation.)
In John 3:3 when Nicodemus asked about Miracles, and that no man can do that exepecpt God be with them. So, Jesus said in response to the Miracle question, one must be born again to enter the Kindom of God.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
This is not about reincarnation as I think of it. There one dies and comes back as someone...or something...else. Men are "
appointed once to die" so there is no coming back and back and back until perfection is reached. We are the same soul we were in the previous age, that we are now, and will be in the following age.
Same soul. The only difference in the ages is that we are presently in flesh. In the first age we were in spirit just as we will be when we die our
appointed one time. As Christians we know we will be in spirit bodies when this age ends. Is it so odd to understand we were in spirit before this age?
So, in reply to your quote of being "
born again," it is actually "
born from above," not born again. We are not born again but have always been. We must come to earth in this age, be "
born from above," to be proven.
Deuteronomy 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
That is the purpose of this age...that is why we are all going through this battle for souls.
Now, the Kingdom of God (in my understanding) starts with the Sower sows the Word. The word produces faith, and God will comfirm His word with signs following. (You can not operate under the Power of the Anointing and faith without being born again. My understanding)
This was the Lord's response to the Miracle question.
You say that born again means What? coming back into a flesh body?
Am I clear on this concept or did I misunderstand somewhere.
Jesus Is Lord.
I believe you are misunderstanding....
John 3:5-6,8 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
A man must be born into flesh, "
of water," which is what happens during our physical birth. The bag of waters surround us until it is time. Then, a man must be born "
of the Spirit." Both are necessary to be in His kingdom. The fallen angels were not born of woman, "
of water," but circumvented the physical process and came straight to earth and wreaked havoc. So, first we must go through this flesh life to be proven and to be of His kingdom we must be filled with His Spirit.