Forget NASA and all the science falsely so called that have come out of the satanic system ...and look at the Word of God and take it exactly as HE stated it.
Flat Earth Theory
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Haven't you ever seen the moon in the daytime? How do you explain that the 2 luminaries aren't on opposite sides of a globe earth when you see them at the same time?
I've often wondered that while growing up. "If I see both the sun and the moon, what's China seeing right now?"
But you will go into the rabbit hole of the absurd theory where the moon crescent is supposed to be by the Earth's shadow?
Where has there been poor reasoning? Show it. And show what proper reasoning would have looked like in comparison.
It's more likely you've been met with solid reasoning, and you got embarrassed because I called you out for condescendingly teaching me a common misconception about the moon crescent being the earth's shadow (where NASA backed me up and contradicted you), and now you're trying to save face by appealing to some mysterious 'poor reasoning' that you refuse to engage in.
This made my morning. I appreciate humor sometimes even in places it is not intended. Your attempt at changing the focus of the topic is hilarious.
To me, the big issue here isn't about you showing me how to look around and turn my head to find the sun as if I can't already do that. You taught the shadow of the moon is evidence of Earth's shape. You're avoiding that NASA contradicted what you said, and you were quite condescending, which makes you look a lot worse about being wrong. You weren't just mistaken, you insinuated NASA doesn't have elementary knowledge about the earth.
You're shifting the topic, you're avoiding addressing your false claim (according to NASA), and you're relying on insults instead of reasoning (calling my or other's reasoning a slur).
I imagine everyone here would like to see you address this rebuttal, or defend your claim.
It never made sense to me, and I don't understand why it's suddenly a thing again. Perhaps because we live in a time where legitimate mistrust of our institutions has led to hyper-skepticism where everything is questioned, I don't know. But, you would have to believe there is some grand conspiracy to convince people that the world is round, and they've managed to suppress that truth for hundreds if not thousands of years. It would mean they've somehow kept thousands of people quiet about it, from scientists to astronauts and even William Shatner, who went up into space recently. And for what? Putting that much effort to suppress something that big with no payoff seems pointless. Whether the earth is round or flat seems inconsequential and doesn't change our life in any way.
NASA was funded about 25 billion dollars last year. $25,000,000,000.00
This government funding is justified if they're out exploring looking for spaceballs and whatever else they're telling us is out there.
Money is a potential incentive for an elaborate hoax.
Not everyone would need to know. People working on "spaceship parts" may be as clueless as you and I. NASA is thought to be a highly departmentalized organization.
Then, what of the supposed whistleblowers? Do you count them as nothing? Why?
There is also an argument for spiritual incentive, that Satan 'runs' the globe earth lie to deceive millions into thinking we're on a floating rock in space, which may on the surface give basis to an atheistic position for many. If people knew we were on a solid foundation with a dome, many would surely believe we were therefore created.
For 25 billion dollars a year, people will put in effort.
Many, many people already believe the 1969 moon landing was a hoax. This doesn't look good on NASA. How much do you trust them?
Is the default position, "I trust the popular opinion"? Or perhaps, "I can't tell the shape of the earth from how small I am standing on it, so I'd have to take someone's word for it either way"?
It wouldn't make a difference to you knowing you were paying your government to lie to you about where you live?
Perhaps that attitude is what allows that scenario to happen to begin with.
NASA isn't the only space organization in the world; at least 70 other nations have one. 26 nations alone have visited the International Space Station. Then there's private space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, among others, that have sent people, some regular citizens, into space. So, basically, it would have to be a worldwide cover-up, which would be a monumental logistical nightmare to try and pull off. Again, and for what? What is it suppose to accomplish? What would they gain by doing so? None of these questions have been satisfactorily answered.
Well, the government wastes plenty of our tax money as is. But rather the earth was round or flat, the sun still rises in the east, we still go to work every day, and life goes on as usual. I can't think of a single life changing thing that would come from knowing I lived on a flat surface rather than a round surface. Now, if knowing would save me money, then I suppose that would make a difference.
It's unfortunate you ignored some great questions.
but you don't need to be satisfied in order for it to be true.
So it's more than just a $25B industry, got it. More money to be made.
So they have you believe.
So they have you believe.
Which is possible.
Perhaps money and power by deception.
but you don't need to be satisfied in order for it to be true.You don't need to be satisfied in order for it to be true.
I imagine they like when people give that response.
So you could think of a life changing thing after all. OK great.
Look, we've already got @HealthyShape thinking the shadows on the moon are from the earth. NASA disagrees with him.
People believe easily. So easily, it didn't even take NASA to convince him on that astrological issue.
One statement from authority holds a lot of power to people who believe easily.
Our nation is already at a point if you question a commonly held belief, you often aren't met with reason. You're met with ridicule for raising a question. People are sheeple.
Fortunately a correct understanding of the shape of the earth is not a Salvation issue :)
No, but it is a credibility issue. The flat earth theory is an absurd myth that can discredit a Christian testimony when sharing the gospel with someone who actually understands reality.
I'm not a flat-earther, common basic observations on earth itself confirms a sphere.
What are these "common basic observations"?
Are you perhaps referring to the one @HealthyShape refers to, being the Earth's shadow cast on the moon, revealing the Earth's spherical shape?
When equal length poles are placed perpendicularly but randomly on a spherical surface and placed in the sunlight, do all those poles cast the same length shadow as each each other ?
I wouldn't know, I haven't performed a test on it. Have you? Or have you perhaps read someone's supposed test results?
Might the answer depend on the size and location of the sun and poles?
Easy experiment :)
Get a basket ball.
3 or 4 same length matchsticks
Stand them at right angles on the balls surface on any part of the basket ball with plasticine/blu-tac etc.
Place them well apart from each other.
Take the ball out into the sun so it shines on all the 3 or 4 matchsticks.
Are the shadows all the same length ?
I can't try it this exact moment (no sun here - it's on the other side of the globe/disk
), but I imagine the shadows easily wouldn't be the same length of each other.Are you by chance setting up to propose this following experiment?
- Hypothesis: If earth is a globe (If X), then poles will produce different lengths of shadows (Then Y).
- Experiment: The poles produce different lengths of shadows (Y).
- Conclusion: Therefore, the earth is a globe (Therefore, X).
