Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

If Earth is flat why are Mars and the Moon not also flat?

No one knows the shape of the earth except that which GOD has told us = Job 38:1-7, Jeremiah 31:35-37

The surface of the earth is a level plane that has snow capped mountains down to low valleys with depressions made in the earth that hold WATER for streams, rivers, ponds, lakes, seas, oceans.

Now just think of the Great Lakes and the massive amount of water in them and the Oceans hold even more WATER.

GOD's Creation, including the Law of Physics which HE created, nullify the satanists globe/ball earth spinning at 1,000 mph

GOD's Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding = It is impossible for WATER to stick to a ball, let alone the Great Lakes and Oceans.

 

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No one knows the shape of the earth except that which GOD has told us = Job 38:1-7, Jeremiah 31:35-37

The surface of the earth is a level plane that has snow capped mountains down to low valleys with depressions made in the earth that hold WATER for streams, rivers, ponds, lakes, seas, oceans.

Now just think of the Great Lakes and the massive amount of water in them and the Oceans hold even more WATER.

GOD's Creation, including the Law of Physics which HE created, nullify the satanists globe/ball earth spinning at 1,000 mph

GOD's Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding = It is impossible for WATER to stick to a ball, let alone the Great Lakes and Oceans.

Nothing is impossible with God.

Earth is not flat.

22."It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;" Isaiah 40

Proverbs 8
27 When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

 

[Grailhunter]

They bounce? That's a new one to check off in the silly column. Lord!

Have you seen the hot dog shaped earth?

 

[David in NJ]

Nothing is impossible with God.

Earth is not flat.

22."It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;" Isaiah 40

Proverbs 8
27 When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

Circle is NOT a sphere and NEVER was and we are not on a globe/ball spinning at 1,000mph thru space.

Your choice to believe Satan's mind control over the world and yourself or to believe God at His word.

Read Matthew 4:1-11 and 1 John 5:19 and John 8:44

You are lacking in the Understanding of TRUTH = Thy word is TRUTH"

 

[Grailhunter]

Circle is NOT a sphere and NEVER was and we are not on a globe/ball spinning at 1,000mph thru space.

Your choice to believe Satan's mind control over the world and yourself or to believe God at His word.

Read Matthew 4:1-11 and 1 John 5:19 and John 8:44

You are lacking in the Understanding of TRUTH = Thy word is TRUTH"

The earth revolves and orbits the sun at a little over 67,000 miles per hour or 18.63 miles per second.

The hot dog shaped earth first attracted interstellar life because it looked like lunch.

 

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Circle is NOT a sphere and NEVER was and we are not on a globe/ball spinning at 1,000mph thru space.

Your choice to believe Satan's mind control over the world and yourself or to believe God at His word.

Read Matthew 4:1-11 and 1 John 5:19 and John 8:44

You are lacking in the Understanding of TRUTH = Thy word is TRUTH"

Idioms.
There is no passage in the Bible that tells us the Earth is flat.
Idioms do not prove Earth is flat.

Circle is synonymous with circle.

 

[David in NJ]

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Idioms.
There is no passage in the Bible that tells us the Earth is flat.
Idioms do not prove Earth is flat.

Circle is synonymous with circle.

WATER proves the surface of the earth is a level plane

@Grailhunter , GOD Says the sun, moon and stars move in set courses that HE established = the earth does not move.

You guys who claim to be smart received your knowledge from the world = it is a corrupted knowledge based on lies.

Isaiah 60:2 "For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and thick darkness the peoples"

The only LIGHT comes from Above = the Word of Elohim

 

[David in NJ]

Specifically what "sciences" are you referring to?

WATER = the science that never lies and is trustworthy and Comes from the Creator

 

[David in NJ]

I come from sciences, I studied it, so I was there. Thanks so much though. I believed what you believe, and I know the science around it. But now I believe scripture and will not go back to these worldy lies. Thank you and God bless you

“On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen [shomerim]; All day and all night they will never keep silent.
You who remind the LORD, take no rest for yourselves.” (Isaiah 62:6)

 

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WATER proves the surface of the earth is a level plane

@Grailhunter , GOD Says the sun, moon and stars move in set courses that HE established = the earth does not move.

You guys who claim to be smart received your knowledge from the world = it is a corrupted knowledge based on lies.

Isaiah 60:2 "For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and thick darkness the peoples"

The only LIGHT comes from Above = the Word of Elohim

It's called celestial mechanics.
The lunar eclipses proves Earth is not flat.
God did that.

 

[Adventageous]

WATER = the science that never lies and is trustworthy and Comes from the Creator

"WATER" is not "the science". It is not "a science". "WATER" is a noun (1. - Water - Etymology, Origin & Meaning ; 2. - Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Water ) to describe a certain created fluidic thing. Things like 'Hydrodynamics' (3. - Hydrodynamics | Research Starters | EBSCO Research ; aka 'Fluid Mechanics'. 4. - Fluid mechanics - Hydrodynamics, Flow, Pressure | Britannica ), "Hydrologics' (5. - Hydrologic sciences | Definition, Processes, Applications, & Facts | Britannica ) would be 'sciences'.

If I may ask a question, just so I understand your definition of "level":

Q: What do you mean by "level" in regards "water" in your responses? Can you provide a specific definition please?​

Secondary, in regards "level":

Q: In experimentation, in an electro-magnetic suspension experiment, with a spherical object (tennis ball, bowling ball (with holes), golf ball (with divits), &c.) suspended magnetically so that it is 'free floating' (though not technically accurate), spinning in an extremely slow rotation (same rotational velocity as 1 complete rotation in 24 hrs) in one scenario, and non-spinning (static / stationary) in another, and a small amount of water is placed upon the surface of it, in each instance, what would the "level" of the "water" do, look like? In afterwards, in further experimentation, taking the same object/s, but simply holding them at arms length without electro-magnetic suspension, and doing the same thing, asking the same inquiry.​

From what I understand "level" to be, seems to be differing than the definition you are thinking of, when using the word. So I am just curious as to the specific definition, so I can understand what you mean by the word "level" when you use it.

 

[Adventageous]

The earth revolves and orbits the sun at a little over 67,000 miles per hour or 18.63 miles per second.
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Some maths for those that like maths.

The variable (at perihelion, or at aphelion) velocity of the world (Earth) as it travels in an elliptical path (see Johannes Kepler, Sir Isaac Newton, et al.) around the sun (Heliocentrism) in the 2nd Heaven (Gen. 1:14-19 KJB). The velocity of the world's (Earth) counter clockwise mean (average) orbital velocity is 29.787 km/s (107,233.2 km/h; 66,631.6213 mph (est. as the numbers will slightly vary depending on Avgs., for instance the Wikipedia number is “29.783 km/s”)). This is calculated from the following equations and information:

• Earth completes one full (elliptical) orbit (360 degrees), in a single (one) year.
  • One full Earth year is approximately (Avg.), 365.25 days (31,557,600 seconds).
  • One full day is 24 hrs (Avg., or somewhere around 23.933 hrs/dy)
  • One full hour is 60 minutes.
  • One full minute is 60 seconds.
  • Sec/Yr. (Avg.) = 60(sec.) x 60(min.) x 24(hrs) x 365.25(dys) = 31,557,600 sec/yr
  • The mean (semi-major) distance from the sun to Earth is 149.6 million km.
  • c = 2(Pi)r
  • c = 2 x (3.1415926...) x 149600000km
  • c = 939964522km (940 million km, rounded)
• The orbital speed then calculated:
  • v = d/t
  • v = 940000000km/31557600s
  • v = 29.787 km/s

Utilizing parallax, some angular geometry and some calculations of trigonometry, aided by several transits of the planet Venus in times past (along with more modern methods), the sun is approximately / averaged ((called a “semi-major axis”) alters from summer to winter, as the orbit of earth around the sun, is not a perfect circle, but ovular (elliptical) in shape, with the summer apex being closer to the sun than the winter apex, by about 3% closer or farther) to be 149,597,870,700 meters (as of the 2012 standardization; being 92,955,807 miles, or 149,597,871 kilometers; all being designated as 1 A.U. (Astronomical Unit), or 8.3 light-minutes)) distant from the earth. This is not the only method to obtain this avg. number. (see How is distance between sun and earth calculated? )

There are also several calculations on the rotational equatorial speed of the earth, whether it be for the “solar day” (relation to the sun) or the “sidereal day” (relation to the stars in “inertial space”), which latter is calculated to be at 1,674.4 km/h (or approx. 1,040.424 mph) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_rotation#Angular_speed

Equatorial Radius Value​

• Req = 6,378.137 m (WGS84 ellipsoid)

Rotational Time (chronological) (Trot = Time rotation)​

• Trot = 23 hours 56 minutes 4.1 seconds (sidereal, 23h 56m 4.09053083288s)

Rotational Time (decimal)​

• Trot = 23.934472 hours

Circumference of the Equator Equation​

• Ceq = 2πReq
  • (2 x 3.14159 x 23.934472)

Circumference of the Equator Calculation​

• Ceq = 40,074.98284 km

Velocity of the Equator Equation​

• veq = Ceq ÷ Trot

Velocity of the Equator Calculation​

• veq = 1,674.4 (rounded) kilometres per hour (km/h)= 465 metres per second (m/s)
  • 1,040.424 mph (rounded) (ie. 0.000696361334927 rpm (revolutions per minute))

Thus:

• 1,040.424 / 60 = 17.3404 miles / minute
• 17.3404 x 63360 = 1098687.744 inches / minute
• 40074.98284 km to miles = 24901.43986617.3404 / 24901.44 = 0.000696361334927 rpm]
• Other non-equatorial (northern or southern locational) speeds (tangential speeds) are calculated by/from this ((CoS (Latitude degree)) x (equatorial sidereal speed) = estimated tangential speed value).
  • So, the Latitude and Longitude of Sacramento, CA, USA, is 38.575764, -121.478851 ( Where is Sacramento, CA, USA on Map Lat Long Coordinates ), and so we plug in ( Desmos | Scientific Calculator ) the Latitude into the equation, (CoS (38.575764) x (1,674.4 km/h) = (.7817843023) x (1674.4 km/h) = 1,309.019636 km/h (813.3871 mph; sidereal - Convert kph to mph ).
  • In the southern most tip of Argentina, at Islote Blanco, Beagle Channel, Tierra del Fuego Province, the Latitude & Longitude there is, 55.06139, and 66.54694, and so we plug in the Latitude into the same equation (CoS (55.06139) x (1,674.4 km/h) = (.5726984206) x (1,674.4 km/h) = 958.9262354 km/h (595.8491 mph). Estimated by average calcuations.

 

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It's called celestial mechanics.
The lunar eclipses proves Earth is not flat.
God did that.

Day will turn to night: astronomers officially confirm the date of the longest solar eclipse of the century

 

[Rudometkin]

If Earth is flat why are Mars and the Moon not also flat?

You're asking someone who's not convinced what your question presupposes.

With worldly matters I come from a default position of skepticism, God's Word is my authority. NASA renditions of what they call Mars doesn't convince me. The moon is believed by some to be made of plasma, with stars said to sometimes be seen through it.

I respect the truth of my ignorance enough to consider the possibilities of these issues.

Your question is one that most people would side with. Despite your knowledge of mars being based on trust in what man-made 'space agencies' say. That is what I perceive a major weakness of your question to be.

The earth is not the moon, and it is not Mars. So if it is a different shape than these other objects, it is in accordance with logic. There is no inherent logical contradiction with it.

If Earth is flat, and the moon and Mars isn't, then it would be because God saw it fit to create it that way.

 

[Rudometkin]

People say objects past the horizon are hidden by Earth's curvature, yet what you see from left to right is generally twice the distance from what is hidden beyond the horizon in front of you, and apparently no curvature is reliably demonstrated from left to right.

 

[David Lamb]

People say objects past the horizon are hidden by Earth's curvature, yet what you see from left to right is generally twice the distance from what is hidden beyond the horizon in front of you, and apparently no curvature is reliably demonstrated from left to right.

That doesn't make sense. If you were on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, then whether you looked forwards, backwards, left or right, you see the horizon. I live on land, as I imagine most of us do, but in a seaside town. If I look out to sea from my house, I see as far as the horizon, but if I look in any other direction, I cannot see the horizon, because it is hidden by buildings, trees, hills, etc. It is not correct to say that we can see further when looking left or right than when looking ahead.

 

[Rudometkin]

That doesn't make sense. If you were on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, then whether you looed forwards, backwards, left or right, you see the horizon. I live on land, as I imagine most of us do, but in a seaside town. If I look out to sea from my house, I sea as far as the horizon, but if I look in any other direction, I cannot see the horizon, because it is hidden by buildings, trees, hills, etc. It is not correct to say that we can see further when looking left or right than when looking ahead.

I didn't say left or right. You are quick to reject something you haven't thought carefully enough about. I said left to right.

If you are looking forward, you are not seeing what's behind you. You're seeing half of the distance. Yet depending on your peripheral you see both left and right, what seems to me, to be a much greater distance. Still no evident curvature.

 

[David Lamb]

I didn't say left or right. You are quick to reject something you haven't thought carefully enough about. I said left to right.

If you are looking forward, you are not seeing what's behind you. You're seeing half of the distance. Yet depending on your peripheral you see both left and right, what seems to me, to be a much greater distance. Still no evident curvature.

Sorry if I misunderstood. You said "from left to right." Of course, if you add the distance you can see when looking to your left to the distance you can see when looking to the right, it will (assuming there are no buildings, mountains or other obstructions) be twice the distance that you you only looked in one direction. Apologies again for misunderstanding.

 

[David in NJ]

"WATER" is not "the science". It is not "a science". "WATER" is a noun (1. - Water - Etymology, Origin & Meaning ; 2. - Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Water ) to describe a certain created fluidic thing. Things like 'Hydrodynamics' (3. - Hydrodynamics | Research Starters | EBSCO Research ; aka 'Fluid Mechanics'. 4. - Fluid mechanics - Hydrodynamics, Flow, Pressure | Britannica ), "Hydrologics' (5. - Hydrologic sciences | Definition, Processes, Applications, & Facts | Britannica ) would be 'sciences'.

If I may ask a question, just so I understand your definition of "level":

Q: What do you mean by "level" in regards "water" in your responses? Can you provide a specific definition please?​

Secondary, in regards "level":

Q: In experimentation, in an electro-magnetic suspension experiment, with a spherical object (tennis ball, bowling ball (with holes), golf ball (with divits), &c.) suspended magnetically so that it is 'free floating' (though not technically accurate), spinning in an extremely slow rotation (same rotational velocity as 1 complete rotation in 24 hrs) in one scenario, and non-spinning (static / stationary) in another, and a small amount of water is placed upon the surface of it, in each instance, what would the "level" of the "water" do, look like? In afterwards, in further experimentation, taking the same object/s, but simply holding them at arms length without electro-magnetic suspension, and doing the same thing, asking the same inquiry.​

From what I understand "level" to be, seems to be differing than the definition you are thinking of, when using the word. So I am just curious as to the specific definition, so I can understand what you mean by the word "level" when you use it

The physics of WATER is the science, 24/7, and it is the LAW of the LAND = by the CREATOR

 

[LoveYeshua]

What are your thoughts on the idea the earth isn't a globe, but instead more of a flat plane?

the earth is a globe;

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