Flat Earth Theory

[Button]

Of course God could create a ball that moves around the sun. But He did not, He never said in His Word that He did. The enemy wants us to worship the sun. The occult worships the sun. Which is satan worship. But the sun is not the center of creation, the earth is.

Then night is an illusion.

 

[Psalm-147:3]

Then night is an illusion.

God created a lesser light for the night, the moon

 

[Rudometkin]

Insisting NASA and historic astronomers and all astrophysics and any invested in mapping the solar system and universe are all part of a conspiracy theory to hide a flat Earth reality is indefensible.

I haven't seen anyone say "Any invested in mapping the solar system are all part of a conspiracy theory to hide a flat earth reality". It seems more like what you're posing here is a strawman argument. In fact, I've seen flat earthers invest themselves in mapping the solar system themselves.

It's smoke and mirrors with no proof to be had to support it.

What constitutes proof?

So now you have observed it all and found that none of it has proof to support it? Did you include all hypothetical arguments, or just every argument that has ever been made? Whatever you are doing for a living, you are probably underpaid. In fact, you probably belong in the Guinness book of world records for your astonishing comprehensive, straight up exhaustive work on all arguments flat earth. In fact, there are philosophical problems with what you have managed to accomplish here. Philosophers are bound to spend their life work on explaining how you were able to accomplish this. What are you doing wasting your time talking to me? You should be hosting every TED talk with your abilities.

Well, you've already asserted dominance on the subject and claimed total superiority over the flat earth debate. I suppose the best I can do is keep on reasoning, due to my humble earthly limitations.

The presence of the sun,the cycle of night and day,alone refutes FE theory.

Does a flashlight light up the entire world? No? Why? Because it's too small? What if the sun is smaller than you think?

God can do anything? Flat Earthets insist he can't make a globe circle the Sun.

Which flat earthlets said this? Where? You are the one implying He can't make a day/night cycle with the sun and flat earth.

 

[Button]

I haven't seen anyone say "Any invested in mapping the solar system are all part of a conspiracy theory to hide a flat earth reality". It seems more like what you're posing here is a strawman argument. In fact, I've seen flat earthers invest themselves in mapping the solar system themselves.

If you read this thread you'll see what I was referring to.

What constitutes proof?

Flat Earthers have to show proof. They cannot. So,they claim proof of a globe Earth is a hoax.

So now you have observed it all and found that none of it has proof to support it? Did you include all hypothetical arguments, or just every argument that has ever been made? Whatever you are doing for a living, you are probably underpaid. In fact, you probably belong in the Guinness book of world records for your astonishing comprehensive, straight up exhaustive work on all arguments flat earth. In fact, there are philosophical problems with what you have managed to accomplish here. Philosophers are bound to spend their life work on explaining how you were able to accomplish this. What are you doing wasting your time talking to me? You should be hosting every TED talk with your abilities.

Well, you've already asserted dominance on the subject and claimed total superiority over the flat earth debate. I suppose the best I can do is keep on reasoning, due to my humble earthly limitations.


Does a flashlight light up the entire world? No? Why? Because it's too small? What if the sun is smaller than you think?

You just gave proof of the flat Earth disconnect.

Which flat earthlets said this? Where?

Read the thread.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Read the thread.

No one has said that God couldn't create a spinning ball/globe earth. What we are saying is that the Word of God gives us very plain descriptions of how He created the earth, and it is not a spinning ball hurling through "space."

 

[Rudometkin]

Nobel Prize winning scientist Richard Feynman on the scientific method: even he had the honesty to admit science is guesswork.

 

[Button]

Nobel Prize winning scientist Richard Feynman on the scientific method: even he had the honesty to admit science is guesswork.

It's called theory. Not guess work.

Flat Earth is guesswork.
Besides,if Earth was flat,so what?

I decided to ask AI.

Proof the Earth isn't flat comes from centuries of observations like ships disappearing hull-first over the horizon, different stars visible in different hemispheres, lunar eclipses showing a curved shadow, time zones, and direct satellite imagery, all demonstrating its spherical shape, a concept understood since ancient Greece.

Here are key proofs:

Ships & Horizons:
When ships sail away, they disappear bottom-first over the curve of the Earth, rather than shrinking into the distance as they would on a flat plane.

Lunar Eclipses: During a lunar eclipse, the Earth's shadow on the Moon is always circular, proving the Earth itself is spherical.

Varying Star Visibility: Travelers going south see new stars appear above the southern horizon, while northern stars sink, impossible on a flat Earth.

Time Zones: The sun shines on different parts of the Earth at different times, creating day and night simultaneously in different locations, which only works on a rotating sphere.

Gravity: Gravity pulls everything towards the center of mass, naturally forming large bodies like Earth into spheres.
Satellite & Space Photos: Countless images and live feeds from space clearly show Earth as a sphere.

Circumnavigation: People have sailed and flown around the world in one continuous direction (east or west) and returned to their starting point.

Eratosthenes' Experiment (3rd Century BC): Ancient Greeks measured the Earth's circumference by comparing shadow lengths in different cities at the same time, proving curvature.

 

[Rudometkin]

It's called theory. Not guess work.

Because people have egos.

The honest ones will admit theory is guesswork.

I didn't graduate past the 5th grade and I know that. How about you?

 

[Button]

Because people have egos.

The honest ones will admit theory is guesswork.

I didn't graduate past the 5th grade and I know that. How about you?

When you resort to that kind of language,you're proving you are no longer confident in your position.

The Earth isn't flat. Gravity is reality.

You don't believe that.
OK

 

[Rudometkin]

When you resort to that kind of language,you're proving you are no longer confident in your position.

The Earth isn't flat. Gravity is reality.

You don't believe that.
OK

From what I can see, you are trying to assert me into submission by telling me that my confidence is non-existent and what I don't believe in.

Doesn't work on me, bud. Why are you resorting to pretending you have that kind of knowledge?

 

[Button]

From what I can see, you are trying to assert me into submission by telling me that my confidence is non-existent and what I don't believe in.

Doesn't work on me, bud. Why are you resorting to pretending you have that kind of knowledge?

No. I'm asserting the Flat Earth theory is Ludacris and not in scripture. Nor is it defensible by Science.

What Flat Earth proponents assert in order to sustain their idea is that Science is a fabrication. Not to be believed.

Which then enabled the Flat Earther to claim their idea is correct,because Science is false.

If the Earth were flat,so what. If it could be proven,OK. But it isn't. And it can't be.

Earth is not flat. It's obvious

Flat Earth proponents are either joking or quite frankly,delusional.


Let them live foolishly thinking what isn't true.

 

[Jesussaves150]

You can circle the globe anytime you want on Airplanes it happens everyday by millions of people.

 

[MonoBiblical]

There are people in the science world who have come to Christ after reading the Biblical accounts of the creation and a fixed earth with foundations, and a firmament, luminaries inside the firmament, and waters above (and below) the firmament.

Yes, but the Hebrew has the luminaries are stars going at the rock firmament, i.e. into it, and the Hebrew doesn't support a flat planet or even the concept of a flat planet.

 

[Psalm-147:3]

Because people have egos.

The honest ones will admit theory is guesswork.

I didn't graduate past the 5th grade and I know that. How about you?

I can confirm that. When I was a scientist, I was prideful and thought I know it all. And yes, science is a religion, it is guesswork. There is a saying, only trust the stats you manipulated yourself. So in science, often you already have an idea of the outcome and you can manipulate data to get that. So even though they claim it is neutral, it is not. And most big science is occult influenced and falling into witchcraft and the devil is in the midst of it. There is true science, and the true science confirms God's Word. Everything that goes against God's Word, we should reject. Because these lies cannot uphold against the Truth.

 

[Psalm-147:3]

No. I'm asserting the Flat Earth theory is Ludacris and not in scripture. Nor is it defensible by Science.

What Flat Earth proponents assert in order to sustain their idea is that Science is a fabrication. Not to be believed.

Which then enabled the Flat Earther to claim their idea is correct,because Science is false.

If the Earth were flat,so what. If it could be proven,OK. But it isn't. And it can't be.

Earth is not flat. It's obvious

Flat Earth proponents are either joking or quite frankly,delusional.


Let them live foolishly thinking what isn't true.

There are atheists. When they come to the Truth and turn to Christ, they KNOW there is a God. They cannot go back to atheism. I was a globe earther. I was like most people here, mocking people believing in flat earth. Until God's Word. I cannot go back to the globe lie.

 

[Rudometkin]

Richard Feynman (Nobel Prize winning Scientist): "We never are right - we can only be sure we're wrong."

Contex: on the matter of science.

 

[Adventageous]

Yeah that may be, but Polaris not being visible from everywhere is also possible on a flat earth, to be honest. That's why I like to focus on arguments which prove only one point of view.

Where would Polaris not be visible from on any modeled flat earth. Please produce that model in image here with how Polaris cannot be seen in that model. Also in that same model please demonstrate the difference in angle of Orion constellation.

 

[Adventageous]

Heliosorcery (2022) | Exposing the Occult Origins of Heliocentrism​

Please read - https://conservancy.umn.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/938986f9-19c1-4cde-94ff-6771a45360f7/content

 

[Adventageous]

The Bible isn't a science book.

It is actually "the science book", about which all other sciences come, the science of Redemption / Salvation. It is even written in a scientific methodology/framework.

 

[Adventageous]

Praise God!

Also, the book of Jasher, which is mentioned in the KJV Bible, documents the same account. :)

Having actually read that thing (pseudepigrapha, apocrypha) it is not the actual 'book of Jasher', but is a source which claims to be, and written by unknown authors in piecemeal and has several errors in it.

The 'book of 'jasher'' (Jos. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18 KJB), in Hebrew, "כתובה על־ספר הישׁר", "kh'tûväh al-šëfer haJäshär" (Jos. 10:13), "כתובה על־ספר הישׁר׃", "kh'tûväh al-šëfer haJäshär" (2 Sam. 1:18), simply means the 'book of the upright / righteous', some which think is one of the OT books (or referring to such, as Deu. 1:30, &c.), or a book written of God, remembering the deeds / actions / faith of the upright as Joshua (Mal. 3:6*). "Jasher" is from H3477, meaning, "From H3474; straight (literally or figuratively): - convenient, equity, Jasher, just, meet (-est), + pleased well right (-eous), straight, (most) upright (-ly, -ness)." - Strong's Concordance.

Jos 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.​

Mal_3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.​

Notice the connection that the LORD had heard Joshua's prayer, and the LORD hearkened to those who spake often to one another of the LORD's character in righteousness, and in connection with a "book" "written before [the LORD]".

John Gill, who notes most commonly accepted Jewish Rabbis, states on Jos. 10:13, some interesting thoughts as well.

"is not this written in the book of Jasher? about which the Jews are divided; some say it is the book of Genesis, others the book of Deuteronomy, others the book of Judges (h); the Targum interprets it of the book of the law, and so Jarchi and Kimchi; and Ben Melech interprets it of the book of the law of Moses, where they suppose this miracle was predicted. The former thinks, in the words of Jacob to Joseph, "his seed shall fill the nations", Gen_48:19; which he supposes was fulfilled in Joshua of the tribe of Ephraim, when the whole world was filled with the fame of him on account of this miracle; and the latter in the words, "before all thy people I will do miracles", Exo_34:10; one was in making the face of Moses to shine, the other the standing still of the sun for Joshua, as he interprets it. Bolducius, a commentator on the book of Job (i), fancies that that book is designed, and that this miracle is foretold in it, particularly in Job_9:7; "which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not"; it is most likely that this book of Jasher, in which this miracle was recorded, was a public register, or annals, in which memorable events were written, as they happened in different ages by different persons; and Masius thinks Josephus (k) means this by the archives laid up in the temple, to which he appeals for the truth of this miracle:"​

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Whatever the actual 'book of Jasher' is, mentioned in those two texts, it is most certainly & assuredly not that which presently purports to be such in name only, carrying certain errors. It is said of it, that, "The earliest known edition was printed in Venice in 1625, but it is believed to be a medieval work rather than the original text mentioned in scripture."