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It is a wonderful thing (when understood) to see how by the Cross we pass out of our old relationship and standing in Adam (Jhn 5:24; 1Jo 3:14), with the penalties and consequences of sin which rested upon us as connected with the man who fell. Death has done this. By the death of the Last Adam we are forever separated from the condemnation and judgement inflicted on the first. And it is as wonderful to see how through the risen and exalted Son of Man we pass into our new position of acceptance and completeness before the Father, and enter upon our relationship as children of the Father, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.

The ascension of the Lord Jesus has done this. By His exaltation we know ourselves as made the righteousness of God in Him. Again, how blessed it is to be made conscious that the Holy Spirit has come down from the Father and the Son to dwell in us as the temples of the loving God, and to make true in us that which is true of us in Christ. Only thus can such verities become our most familiar thoughts, our daily bread, and source of supply to us as new creatures in Christ. We are kept in this nearness to the Father by a power equal to that which quickened us and set us in relationship with our glorified Head and Life.

How else can communion and enjoyment with the Father and the Son be maintained in us against all the contradictions of the flesh, the world, and the devil, unless the fact of our new creation can be displayed to faith in Christ at the right hand of the Father, as well as what we are by grace as in Him? An important Scripture for the establishment of the Lord’s people in the truth about us is shown in Ephesians 4:20-24:”But ye have not so learned Christ, if so that ye have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus; that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put of the new man, which according to God is created in righteousness and holiness of truth.”

The Holy Spirit testifies of the Lord Jesus to us, and witnesses that “as He is, so are we in this world” (1Jo 4:17). He therefore judges and keeps the sentence of death upon the “motions” (Rom 7:5) of the flesh, which if followed, would make us appear unlike Christ. Working in the inner man, He produces in us as new creatures the affections which are suited to the Father and the Son for the fellowship into which we are called. Moreover, the Spirit of God is true in divine operation to the work of Christ – “knowing this that our old man is crucified (“is” still Cross-retained—NC) with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin” (Rom 6:6).

The motives also which are supplied to us for practical conduct, necessarily spring from the truth between the Father and ourselves, as to what we are by the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ, namely, “How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Again, “know ye not that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?” It is important to see that the Lord Jesus is the rule of the Spirit’s testimony to us (not the Spirit’s “life” imparted but Christ’s – Col 3:4—through the Spirit—NC) and work in us, both as to life and death; and that Christ must therefore be the Object and rule of our faith and fellowship with the Father.

Equally important is it to get our hearts and consciences assured that the Father Himself owns none other than His beloved Son as the ground of His present and future acts towards us. It is evident that all steadfastness and growth in a believer, as regards himself and his fellowship with the Father, about sin and growth, the flesh and the Spirit, grace and righteousness, heaven and hell, depend upon the Person and work of the Lord Jesus, as the established and unchangeable basis of all fellowship between us as redeemed unto the Father, by the Blood of the Son.

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It is a wonderful thing (when understood) to see how by the Cross we pass out of our old relationship and standing in Adam (Jhn 5:24; 1Jo 3:14), with the penalties and consequences of sin which rested upon us as connected with the man who fell. Death has done this. By the death of the Last Adam we are forever separated from the condemnation and judgement inflicted on the first. And it is as wonderful to see how through the risen and exalted Son of Man we pass into our new position of acceptance and completeness before the Father, and enter upon our relationship as children of the Father, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.

The ascension of the Lord Jesus has done this. By His exaltation we know ourselves as made the righteousness of God in Him. Again, how blessed it is to be made conscious that the Holy Spirit has come down from the Father and the Son to dwell in us as the temples of the loving God, and to make true in us that which is true of us in Christ. Only thus can such verities become our most familiar thoughts, our daily bread, and source of supply to us as new creatures in Christ. We are kept in this nearness to the Father by a power equal to that which quickened us and set us in relationship with our glorified Head and Life.

How else can communion and enjoyment with the Father and the Son be maintained in us against all the contradictions of the flesh, the world, and the devil, unless the fact of our new creation can be displayed to faith in Christ at the right hand of the Father, as well as what we are by grace as in Him? An important Scripture for the establishment of the Lord’s people in the truth about us is shown in Ephesians 4:20-24:”But ye have not so learned Christ, if so that ye have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus; that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put of the new man, which according to God is created in righteousness and holiness of truth.”

The Holy Spirit testifies of the Lord Jesus to us, and witnesses that “as He is, so are we in this world” (1Jo 4:17). He therefore judges and keeps the sentence of death upon the “motions” (Rom 7:5) of the flesh, which if followed, would make us appear unlike Christ. Working in the inner man, He produces in us as new creatures the affections which are suited to the Father and the Son for the fellowship into which we are called. Moreover, the Spirit of God is true in divine operation to the work of Christ – “knowing this that our old man is crucified (“is” still Cross-retained—NC) with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin” (Rom 6:6).

The motives also which are supplied to us for practical conduct, necessarily spring from the truth between the Father and ourselves, as to what we are by the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ, namely, “How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Again, “know ye not that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?” It is important to see that the Lord Jesus is the rule of the Spirit’s testimony to us (not the Spirit’s “life” imparted but Christ’s – Col 3:4—through the Spirit—NC) and work in us, both as to life and death; and that Christ must therefore be the Object and rule of our faith and fellowship with the Father.

Equally important is it to get our hearts and consciences assured that the Father Himself owns none other than His beloved Son as the ground of His present and future acts towards us. It is evident that all steadfastness and growth in a believer, as regards himself and his fellowship with the Father, about sin and growth, the flesh and the Spirit, grace and righteousness, heaven and hell, depend upon the Person and work of the Lord Jesus, as the established and unchangeable basis of all fellowship between us as redeemed unto the Father, by the Blood of the Son.

- J E Batten
John's First Epistle also has a lot of grounding information for fellowship as a general principle.

Acts 2.42 delineates basic local church fellowship activities.
 
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John's First Epistle also has a lot of grounding information for fellowship as a general principle.

Acts 2.42 delineates basic local church fellowship activities.
Hi Far, and thanks for the reply and comment. Though I believe the fellowship of the saints (He 10:25) is necessary for close fellowship with God, the article concerns the saints fellowship with God via of course the Foundation of the Lord Jesus (1Co 3:11).

It's my understanding that how a believer responds to other believers is our response to God. Regardless the level of sincerity in our desired intention for close fellowship with Him, our practical walk with God continues to grow from just desiring to doing - Phl 2:13 (Mat 10:40; Jhn 13:20). I think this principle is the same for Mat 25:40, 45 and 1Jhn 4:20.

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I believe that the most important thing that brings fellowship between real believers is transparency before the Lord and men.

1Jo 1:7
 
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I believe that the most important thing that brings fellowship between real believers is transparency before the Lord and men.

1Jo 1:7
Yes, I strongly agree, because it's always about how we relate to others concerning love for them, which is the determining factor of how we relate to God in showing our love for Him (Jhn 15:12; 1Jhn 4:20).
 

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Fellowship (koinoneia) is strongly something that has to do with knowing each other for who the other person is. If we are not transparent, there can be no such fellowship as that. We must walk in the light as He is in the light.
 

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Fellowship (koinoneia) is strongly something that has to do with knowing each other for who the other person is. If we are not transparent, there can be no such fellowship as that. We must walk in the light as He is in the light.
True, but we can want to still have love for others we don't know (even without fellowship), in being ready to forgive and treat them the same as we are to treat all.
 
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I am of course talking about true fellowship or koinoneia. This is a closeness that we have to certain other believers because we know them really well. And we can't know them to the fullest extent possible if they are hiding from us who they really are. Neither can they know us if we are hiding our true selves from them.

Of course we are to love those even with whom we have no fellowship, are we not to even love our enemies?
 

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I am of course talking about true fellowship or koinoneia. This is a closeness that we have to certain other believers because we know them really well. And we can't know them to the fullest extent possible if they are hiding from us who they really are. Neither can they know us if we are hiding our true selves from them.

Of course we are to love those even with whom we have no fellowship, are we not to even love our enemies?
Thanks and well put! I agree, all are to be loved the same, though there are varying degrees of favor and fellowship that are commensurate with how we know one another, as you've mentioned. It's acceptable to favor (in fellowship but not in love) one differently among those we love as shown by our Lord in Jhn 13:23. The phrase "whom Jesus loved" of course is a gloss with the intention of indicating John was His favorite disciple (concerning fellowship), which I think can be seen in John's attention given more to the issue of love in His writings.
 

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True. We can love without fellowship, but there can be no fellowship without love among those to whom we're to have union.
In John's First Epistle are important, general principles of fellowship; in Paul's Epistles there is specific fellowship within named local churches.
 

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In John's First Epistle are important, general principles of fellowship; in Paul's Epistles there is specific fellowship within named local churches.
Amen, and it's good to point out the importance of love to one another, which is what all believers fellowship in. Many may not realize that our love to one another determines our love for God, regardless how great the desire to love Him. As it is well known among Word-wise believers, apart from neighborly love there can be no true obedience to God because it summarizes all obedience to Him (Jhn 15:12), and the absence of love manifests the absence of God (1Jhn 4:7).

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Amen, and it's good to point out the importance of love to one another, which is what all believers fellowship in. Many may not realize that our love to one another determines our love for God, regardless how great the desire to love Him. As it is well known among Word-wise believers, apart from neighborly love there can be no true obedience to God because it summarizes all obedience to Him (Jhn 15:12), and the absence of love manifests the absence of God (1Jhn 4:7).

Blessings!
Indeed...
 

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Amen, and it's good to point out the importance of love to one another, which is what all believers fellowship in. Many may not realize that our love to one another determines our love for God, regardless how great the desire to love Him. As it is well known among Word-wise believers, apart from neighborly love there can be no true obedience to God because it summarizes all obedience to Him (Jhn 15:12), and the absence of love manifests the absence of God (1Jhn 4:7).

Blessings!
Hi Far - Thanks for the holy greeting, and God be blessed!
 
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