Genesis 3

[Doug]

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Satan was taking away from the word of God by omitting that God said not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Eve added to the word of God; God said in Genesis 2:17 that they could not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he did not say it could not be touched.

Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Every other tree in the garden was likewise good for food and pleasant to the eyes, according to Genesis 2:9. Genesis 2:9 also says there was the tree of life, which they could have chosen to eat from, but desired the prohibited tree of knowledge of good and evil instead.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This is the first of the gospel of God; the salvation which God chose to be through the Lord Jesus Christ (Hebrews 2:14-15 Romans 1:1).

Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Adam and Eve covered themselves in Genesis 3:7, but it was God who clothed them, just as we are clothed with his righteousness (Isaiah 61:10 Romans 3:22 2 Corinthians 5:21).

Death entered here, as an animal was slain to cover Adam and Eve.

 

[Dcopymope]

;).....Yep

So?????

 

[Joseph77]

Death entered here, as an animal was slain to cover Adam and Eve.

Death entered the world before that - as soon as Adam and Chavah sinned.

 

[Doug]

Death entered the world before that - as soon as Adam and Chavah sinned.

Right
I was thinking along the lines as blood being shed. The animal sacrifice and shedding of blood foretold the blood of Christ.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

So?????

If you don't understand something simply, you can't explain it, so, sheepishly ask, So?.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Right
I was thinking along the lines as blood being shed. The animal sacrifice and shedding of blood foretold the blood of Christ.

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT?!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Eve added to the word of God; God said in Genesis 2:17 that they could not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he did not say it could not be touched.

Eve perfectly understood God, when He said they must not eat, that they must not so much as touch the tree. She painted herself into a corner, placed herself between a rock and a hard place -- judged herself correctly that she had no excuse for doing what she did -- THE MOMENT SHE STARTED TO ARGUE WITH THE DEVIL. And that's the problem with Christians OF TODAY. They think and talk too much when it's a matter of respect and obey what God says AND MEANS by saying. We have become so clever. So educated, so scientific. Just listen to Christian apologists and evangelists and see what I mean.

 

[DPMartin]

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Satan was taking away from the word of God by omitting that God said not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Eve added to the word of God; God said in Genesis 2:17 that they could not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he did not say it could not be touched.

Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Every other tree in the garden was likewise good for food and pleasant to the eyes, according to Genesis 2:9. Genesis 2:9 also says there was the tree of life, which they could have chosen to eat from, but desired the prohibited tree of knowledge of good and evil instead.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This is the first of the gospel of God; the salvation which God chose to be through the Lord Jesus Christ (Hebrews 2:14-15 Romans 1:1).

Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Adam and Eve covered themselves in Genesis 3:7, but it was God who clothed them, just as we are clothed with his righteousness (Isaiah 61:10 Romans 3:22 2 Corinthians 5:21).

Death entered here, as an animal was slain to cover Adam and Eve.

most of what you've stated here is standard understanding but don't be so sure death enters via the animal that was killed for a covering seeing many living things lived and died before man even came into being via their Maker.

death becomes significant in the case of man when Cain kills Abel. Abel is the first man to experience death which has meaning do to it was by the hand of his older brother who had authority over him. over the issue that his offering of a lamb was acceptable to God. which of course also points to Jesus who is the first to be resurrected and is the acceptable offering also known as the Lamb. hence God honors Abel's offering and makes all men you are aware of the Almighty aware of the first man to experience death and his blood crying out to God and God heard it.

 

[Enoch111]

Satan was taking away from the word of God by omitting that God said not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Actually there is a little more to it than that. We see both Satan and Eve perverting what God had clearly stated (and of which they were both aware).

WHAT GOD HAD SAID AS A COMMANDMENT
And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

WHAT THE SERPENT SAID AS A DECEIVER
1. He cast doubt on the words of God: Yea, hath God said...
2. He reversed what God had said: Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
3. He blatantly denied what God had said: And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
4. He deceived the woman with a lie:...then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

WHAT THE WOMAN SAID AS A WILLING PARTICIPANT
1. She minimized the generosity of God: We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden INSTEAD OF "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat"
2. She changed the words of God completely: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden... INSTEAD OF "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil..."
3. She added to what God had said: ...Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it... INSTEAD OF "thou shalt not eat of it" with no reference to touching
4. She denied the certainty of judgment: ...lest ye die INSTEAD OF "thou shalt surely die".

All of these things are happening today when God's Word is perverted by false teachers and corrupted in the modern translations.

 

[Base12]

...an animal was slain to cover Adam and Eve.

That is an assumption I don't agree with. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God killed animals and used those skins to clothe Adam and Eve.

In fact, I believe Adam and Eve were 'naked' because they had no physical body as of yet. At least not the kind we have now.

This is how Adam and Eve were clothed...

Job 10:11
"Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews"

The Forbidden Fruit was a choice to be born into, and clothed with, corruptible flesh. Before that, Adam and Eve were Soul and Spirit only.

 

[Paul Christensen]

That is an assumption I don't agree with. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God killed animals and used those skins to clothe Adam and Eve.

In fact, I believe Adam and Eve were 'naked' because they had no physical body as of yet. At least not the kind we have now.

This is how Adam and Eve were clothed...

Job 10:11
"Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews"

The Forbidden Fruit was a choice to be born into, and clothed with, corruptible flesh. Before that, Adam and Eve were Soul and Spirit only.

It seems that you are not accepting Genesis 1-3 as literal - that God formed Adam as a human being with a physical body from the dust of the ground, and formed Eve's physical body from Adam's rib. It is also obvious that Adam and Eve were clothed with animal skins.

If Genesis 1-3 is not accepted literally, there is no gospel, no Jesus on the cross, and therefore no salvation. If you don't believe it literally, then you cannot believe the rest of the Bible either. Therefore, anyone who does not believe the literal text of the Bible will die in their sins, having a false religion and a false hope.

 

[Base12]

It seems that you are not accepting Genesis 1-3 as literal...

Your version of literal and the Bible's version of literal are two different things.

The Bible is its own Dictionary and Thesaurus. I let the Bible teach me what words mean, not Modern Man's understanding and certainly not yours.

'Dust of the Ground' is defined by Scripture. 'Rib' is also defined by Scripture.

They don't mean what folks assume them to mean. It's obvious you haven't done your homework in this area.

As far as taking the Bible literally, I doubt anyone here takes it as literal as I do.

Remember Children coming from Hell?

Matthew 23:15
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves"

If YOU accepted what Jesus said as being 100% literal, you would understand what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Anyhow, I've had this argument with you before and it's clear you've learned nothing.

Oh well, for those that would like to understand what 'Naked' meant with regards to Adam and Eve, these verses will help you...

2 Corinthians 5:2-3
"For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven"

"If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked"

Note that we're not talking about Levis and a T-shirt here.

;)

 

[Paul Christensen]

Your version of literal and the Bible's version of literal are two different things.

The Bible is its own Dictionary and Thesaurus. I let the Bible teach me what words mean, not Modern Man's understanding and certainly not yours.

'Dust of the Ground' is defined by Scripture. 'Rib' is also defined by Scripture.

They don't mean what folks assume them to mean. It's obvious you haven't done your homework in this area.

As far as taking the Bible literally, I doubt anyone here takes it as literal as I do.

Remember Children coming from Hell?

Matthew 23:15
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves"

If YOU accepted what Jesus said as being 100% literal, you would understand what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Anyhow, I've had this argument with you before and it's clear you've learned nothing.

Oh well, for those that would like to understand what 'Naked' meant with regards to Adam and Eve, these verses will help you...

2 Corinthians 5:2-3
"For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven"

"If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked"

Note that we're not talking about Levis and a T-shirt here.

;)

Mmmm... A new one on me! I just read the text and believe what it says.
Where it says that God formed Adam from the dust of the ground and breathed life into him, that's exactly what happened. Where it says that God put Adam to sleep (they didn't discover anaesthesia until the late 19th Century! So it proves that God knew all about it long before man discovered it), took out a rib and made a woman out of it. This is important because unless that actually happened, marriage would be meaningless, because the principle of marriage is that woman was not created separately, but came out of man. If the couple were naked and did not realise they were until they ate the forbidden fruit and then sewed leaves to cover their private parts, they must have started to look at each other with lust, and knew being naked was wrong. Then God clothed them with animal skins, mainly to stop them from suffering from exposure, because the earth became cursed and was no longer the warm comfortable environment for them to live in.

I think that when some read the Bible they adopt such a heavenly attitude that they turn their logical brains off and read into the Bible stuff that is just isn't there.

So I don't think that saying that Adam and Eve were naked because they did not have physical bodies is reading into the text something that is not there at all and suggests some "spiritual" meaning that defies mere ten year old comprehension 101. And the idea of God clothing them with human skin to give them bodies, is just pure science fantasy, and just doesn't make sense.