Genesis chapter 1 & 2 as well as to chapter 6, a second Look

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Genesis chapter 6
Part #3.
"The Nephilim, Who was they?"

Foundation Scripture: Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Study Scripture: 2 Samuel 23:8 "These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time."

To understand who they, The Nephilim/Giants were, one need to understand their origins, and where their place was, A. before the flood, and B. after the flood in the scriptures. The scriptures that reveals it all for us before and after the flood is Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown”.
The key phrase in the verse is, “the same, (giants), became mighty men”. there is our first step in identifying who these Giants/Nephilim are. these giants/Nephilim became know as "MIGHTY MEN". knowing that, let's zero in on "MIGHTY MEN". the definition, Mighty Men: H1368 גִּבּוֹר gibbowr (ghib-bore') adj, here mean, גִּבֹּר gibbor (ghib-bore') [shortened]
1. powerful. 2. (by implication) a warrior, tyrant. [intensive from the same as H1397]
KJV: champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.

The KJV can translate the Nephilim, the Giants also as a man, but notice “MIGHTY MAN”, or valiant man.
Understand, our term Giant/Nephilim identifies what we’re looking for in this topic setting in two types of mighty men A. “Mighty Men” in valor. B. Mighty Men in Stature. So our first clue tells us to look for “ mighty men” in the bible, either of A. in valor. B. in Stature/Height.

before the flood, we say that the sons of God who had these giants, these Nephilim, these “mighty men” was ordinary men and women, AND NOT ANGELS, (Children of, descendants of Adam and Even when in the Garden). We will prove this by revealing who these giants, these Nephilim, these “mighty men” are after the flood and then we can understand who they are before the flood, and see that they had ordinary human fathers and mothers.
We will look at the two types of Nephilim, according to the bible. the Giants, men in stature and the Mighty Men in valor, whom all had Ordinary parents. Nothing supernatural here.

MIGHTY MEN
Type I. “Mighty Men”, Ordinary men of valor, “A Warrior”.
Type II. “Mighty Men”, Ordinary men in stature, “A Giant”

Type 1. “Mighty Men”. Ordinary men of valor, “A Warrior”.
Follow the bible. as stated above the Nephilim/giants are the Mighty men. a "Mighty Man" known as a Nephilim dose not always mean in "height" only, but we’re going to look at that also. it can mean a STRONG MAN, a VALIANT MAN, or a WARRIOR in battle. again look at the definition above again to be sure. My source for this definition is from, Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.

So lets find these “mighty men”/Nephilim, and trace them back to their origins. So don't let Nephilim stick in your head only as GIANTS in stature ONLY. The tradition of men have planted this notion in men heads that Nephilim are only giants, but the bible is clear. as our apostle said, leave those old wives, and fairy tails behind, and re-new your mind in the knowledge of Christ.

king David, and some of his men was identified as MIGHTY MEN who killed a lot of other men. Let’s catalogue David's mighty men. In 2 Samuel 23:8 read through to the end of the chapter. Two things to notice in 2 Samuel 23. in verse 8 we have the term “Mighty Men” which is the same term used in Genesis 6, here it is again, H1368 גִּבּוֹר gibbowr (ghib-bore') adj. גִּבֹּר gibbor (ghib-bore') [shortened]
1. powerful. 2. (by implication) a warrior, tyrant.
KJV: champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.
Root(s): H1397

The exact same word used in Genesis 6 for giants/Nephilim. also notice 2 Samuel 23:18 "And Abishai, the brother of Joab, the son of Zeruiah, was chief among three. And he lifted up his spear against three hundred, and slew them, and had the name among three.

Here, the "NAME" is the Hebrew word, H8034 שֵׁם shem (shame) n-m.
1. an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality.
2. (by implication) honor, authority, character.
[a primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position)]
KJV: + base, (in-)fame(-ous), named(-d), renown, report.
Root(s): H7760

did one see how it could be translated in the KJV? ..... "renown" just as in Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown".

there it is "renown" and theses men, these “mighty men” had a reputation of being KILLERS of other men. Because another word for “RENOWN” is reputation. Meaning, The condition of being known or talked about by many people. They had reputation of being killers of men, as David was. 1 Samuel 29:5 & 6 "Is not this David, of whom they sang one to another in dances, saying, Saul slew his thousands, and David his ten thousands?". See these men killed, or was killer, or as the definition define them as “Warriors”. That’s why the Lord said in Genesis 6:5 & 6 "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." 6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." there was lots of violence,killing, spilling of blood in the Land, hence the flood. notice these mighty men of David had HUMAN PARENTS, no angels in involved. In today’s language these men would be recognized as modern day mercenary for their great valor in fighting. So clearly the bible tells us that these type of Mighty Man/Nephilim is associated with violence, the spilling of blood in the land, killers. And David was a MIGHTY MAN, 1 Samuel 16:18 "Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him." and David had human parents. So now we’re going to look at these type II “Mighty men” who are tall in stature, known as GIANTS, and who also have human origins. next time.


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Genesis chapter 6
Part #4.
"The Nephilim, Who was they?"

Type II. “Mighty Men”, Ordinary men in stature, “A Giant”

As previously stated, Nephilim do not mean ONLY “Giants” in stature, but here we will examine the Nephilim in stature, yes Giants, as in height. again we’ll look at after the flood and see these giants and where they came from. and they all came from the same source, ordinary human men and women, (no angelic involvement at all), in this case, post flood, Noah and his sons. We will start with one of the best know giants in the bible, Goliath, the Philistine of Gath.

These are the names of Noah sons. Genesis 9:18 & 19 "And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. 19 "These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread”.

Knowing this, the only people to exist on the entire planet, after the flood, came from these three sons of Noah. no giants came from any other unions but of human men and women, this is bible.

1 Samuel 17:23 "And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them”. Here the scriptures say that Goliath was a Philistine. And Goliath himself tells us that he is a Philistine. 1 Samuel 17:8 "And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me”. We know without a doubt that Goliath of Gath is a Philistine.
Now the question comes, where did the Philistine come from? Answer, let’s look at the genealogy of Noah sons and trace back to Goliath of Gath who is a Philistine. Genesis 10:6 "And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan”.
One of Ham’s sons were Mizraim. Let’s look at Mizraim sons. Genesis 10:13 "And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, 14 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim”. As we can see Mizraim had a son name Casluhim which out of him came a people called Philistim.
This is the same exact genealogy out of 1 Chronicles 1:12. Let’s compare them
1 Chronicles 1:12 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (of whom came the Philistines,) and Caphthorim”.
Genesis 10:14 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim”.
Perfect match, so we know that Philistim in Genesis 10:14 is the Philistines in 1 Chronicles 1:12.
Knowing this, the Philistines came from HAM, one of Noah sons, who had Mizraim, who had Casluhim.

So this Giant Goliath came from ordinary men and women NOT FROM ANY ANGELIC UNION WITH HUMAN WOMAN. This Genesis 6 myth is coming apart. in the book of Numbers 13:33 "And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight".
Here we see giants in stature/height the term "Giants"/nephilim is associated with the sons of Anak which can be trace back to HAM. a son of Noah.

And if one study the bible these so called Giants was just tall men. For Goliath was around 9ft. And 6 inches. 1 Samuel 17:4 "And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span."

Doing the math, a cubits is roughly 18 inches, and a span = roughly 9 inches
Let’s add up Goliath height to be sure. He was six cubits and a span.

1 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
2 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
3 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
4 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
5 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
6 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches

That’s a total of 6ft and 36 inches. 36 inches is 3 feet. that makes Goliath 9ft tall. But now we need to add the span which is roughly 9 inches, which means the Philistine of Gath, Goliath was over 9 and a half feet tall. Well the tallest man in modern times was Robert Wadlow who stood in at 8ft and 11 inches, just about 9 feet. If one would look at some of his pictures next to ordinary people you will see why he is called a giant. Goliath would have had only a few inches on him.

These giants through out the bible is just extra tall men and women. If one just take their time and add up some of these heights one will find that they was just extraordinary tall men, who had the condition in humans called “gigantism”. as was with the famous wrestler Andre the giant.

So get that Gulliver travels myth out of your head. These was just extra tall men who had ordinary parents who was human. so the sons of God in Genesis chapter 6 was ordinary men, with ordinary parents, who was either, taller than the most men in general, or was men of valor.

The Goliath Tree, HAM, Mizraim, Casluhim, out of whom came Philistim, or the Philistine. that's a HUMAN family tree.

Many Christian believe in giants, as in stature. But the biggest, or tallest giant or giants in the bible range from 7 feet to 14 feet. We today have people in this range. One of the most tallest giants mention in the bible king Og was 12 to 13 feet tall, when one do the math.

there are many examples in the bible, just read your bible and have the Holy Spirit as your teacher, and you want go wrong.

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Genesis chapter 6
Part #5.
"The Nephilim, Who was they?"

Type II. “Mighty Men”, Ordinary men in stature, “A Giant”

Let’s look at another known giant by name, Og king of Bashan. Deuteronomy 4:47 "And they possessed his land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sunrising”. reading for the blue letter bible,
Og: H5747 עוֹג `Owg (ogue) n/p.
1. "long-necked" 2. Og, a king of Bashan. 3. the Amorite king of Bashan and one of the last representatives of the giants of Rephaim
[probably from H5746]
KJV: Og.

Og was an “Amorite”, so lets see were the Amorite came from?
Gen 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
Gen 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
So we see that the Amorite came from the normal man Canaan, one of Noah Grandchildren, from his son Ham.
But these Amorite was a race of what the bible calls “giants”. scripture, Amos 2:9 Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.

The Amorite was very tall people. They was not the height as cedar trees, which is symbolism for a tall race of people. But they all came from normal ordinary men and women. We have their genealogy right here in the Bible

Lets look at the actual height of these giants. Og, king of Bashan his bed was 9 cubits. How long is a cubit. According to the blue letter bible online, Cubit H520 אַמָּה 'ammah - a measure of distance (the forearm), roughly 18 in (.5m). There are several cubits used in the OT, the cubit of a man or common cubit (Dt 3.11)

So a Cubit is approx 18 inches, meaning 1 foot and 6 inches. And king Og bed was nine cubits. Translate into feet and inches, his bed was 13 feet and 6 inches. remember Og was an “Amorite” keep that in mind.


Let’s look at another giant, or giants.
1Chr 11:22 Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, the son of a valiant man of Kabzeel, who had done many acts; he slew two lionlike men of Moab: also he went down and slew a lion in a pit in a snowy day.
1Chr 11:23 And he slew an Egyptian, a man of great stature, five cubits high; and in the Egyptian's hand was a spear like a weaver's beam; and he went down to him with a staff, and plucked the spear out of the Egyptian's hand, and slew him with his own spear.

This ordinary man, an Israelite who slew this Egyptian, a man of great stature, who was 5 cubit tall.
Conversion, 7’ 6” tall. And this Egyptian's, he had a spear like a weaver's beam. What other famous giant carried this type weapon also. lets see,

1Sam 17:4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.
1Sam 17:5 And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass.
1Sam 17:6 And he had greaves of brass upon his legs, and a target of brass between his shoulders.
1Sam 17:7 And the staff of his spear was like a weaver's beam; and his spear's head weighed six hundred shekels of iron: and one bearing a shield went before him.

Goliath height was six cubits and a span. We already know what a cubit is so what’s a span.
a unit of measure, approx half-cubit, or the distance from the thumb to the little finger on an outstretched hand. Meaning about 9 inches. So Goliath was 9 feet and 9 inches.

The Egyptian man and Goliath both came from Ham. Let’s see. Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. Looking up Mizraim, it’s H4714 מִצרַיִם Mitsrayim (mits-rah'-yim) adj.
Mitsrajim, i.e. Upper and Lower Egypt.
[dual of H4693]
KJV: Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim

So the Egyptian, as well as Goliath, the Philistines came from the man HAM.

Now let’s look at the most controversial giants in the bible the sons of Anak. Anak means H6061 עָנָק `Anaq (aw-nawk') n/p. Anak, a Canaanite.. progenitor of a family, or tribe of the giant people in Canaan.

Num 13:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Num 13:2 Send thou men, that they may search the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel: of every tribe of their fathers shall ye send a man, every one a ruler among them.
Num 13:22 And they ascended by the south, and came unto Hebron; where Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were. (Now Hebron was built seven years before Zoan in Egypt.) THIS IS BIBLE SPEAKING.

The children of Anak was in “Hebron”. keep this in mind, Judg 1:10 And Judah went against the Canaanites that dwelt in Hebron: (now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba) and they slew Sheshai, and Ahiman, and Talmai.

These are the sons of Anak. But here’s the catch. Hebron was knows as Kirjatharba, so who is Kirjatharba

1. city of Arba, or city of the four (giants).Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, which are the sons of Anak. So Who is “Arba? Scripture, Josh 21:11 "And they gave them the city of Arba the father of Anak, which city is Hebron, in the hill country of Judah, with the suburbs thereof round about it". BINGO.

So the sons of Anak came from the man “Arba” who was a Canaanite. Knowing this, it bring us back to the genealogy list in Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

This is where the Canaanite came from, Canaan, who Arba the father of Anak. THERE IT IS, SIMPLE BIBLE RESEARCH, IN LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.


so, there was no supernatural or angelic intervention. all these so-called giants in the bible came from regular people.

again, I will keep on saying it, all the humans come from Adam..... and his wife Eve. yes, all of us, the Good, the Bad, and the ugly... YIkES!.


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Part #6

Genesis chapter 2. the revealing chapter for chapter 1. “the making of all things.

Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," Day here is in the singular, not plural, meaning a day by day description of what was NOT said in chapter 1.

before we continue, we need to know how we got to the finish, …. answer from the start, or the background of creation, and only two verses are needed.

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

in verse 1, all unorganized subatomic particles are first laid out or organized within it-self, by God, upon his written laws which governs each forces actions. how do we know this? in Genesis 1:1 the verse said, “IN, IN, IN, the beginning, not AT, AT, AT, the beginning, but in, meaning what is now seen is from that which is not seen, in layman’s term the quantum world, which our physics of science identifies. they are, gravity, electromagnetism, the weak nuclear force and the strong nuclear force, the quantum world,

the keyword in verse 1 is the term “IN” the beginning. IN, expressing a period of time during which an event takes place or a situation remains the case. during? well the quantum world regulates, or governs the created (seen) world on or upon observation in the seen or creative world, (that’s why we see … some things). so the creation of the heavens and the Earths was after the quantum world was in existence, and their laws written and ordained by God. for a Law, for example, as the Law of thermodynamics cannot exist unless it’s process is first written, (establish), and ordain, or executed, meaning (Governing). now the question is, how deep, or small do the quantum world go or resides? no one knows but God, for he is the ONLY Demiurgic who knows.


verse #2 confirm this quantum world. Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." the very first word to notice is the Hebrew word, WAS …… . here, it is the Hebrew word, can one believe it…. H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. a verb, or “I AM”… the same word used in God name at Exodus 3:13 "And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

"Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." here God as in Genesis is telling Moses that he is the “CREATOR” and “MAKER” of all things. again, the verb H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v, as I have said before is just that, which identifies “WHAT” God is and not “WHO” he is in Name. so, all those out there who still insist on following after the false personal name of God as, “Jehovah or Yahweh”, derived from the tetragrammaton, H1961 הָיָה hayah, which is a verb, and not a noun, then you can stay in darkness, and ignorance. so again, God is identified as the author who, A. created everything, and now, B. the “MAKER” of all things, as (Isaiah 44:24, and John 1:3 confirms).

back to verse 2, so the matter which do appear is summed up in Hebrews 11:3 "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.". so an invisible world do exist, Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

and from this framed, the quantum world, (invisible), come this creative world, (visible), of what we see, hear, taste, smell, and smell, which we call our senses. this created world was “FORMED” for our reception of these types of electrical signals in which our brains interpret as real actual experiences in these known four forces of nature. but mind ourselves, this is only a created world that we live in… meaning LIMITED. the real world is where God is. and he’s everywhere. so our creative world to us “APPEAR…. REAL”


So God “Formed”, or shaped the earth, “And the earth was without form”. the form or the shape of the world is round, Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"

and he filled the earth with creatures, meaning his creations. “and void”. in the beginning, yes, until he shaped it, and per-paired it for life. all this nonsense about the earth was destroyed, is just that… Nonsense. scripture, Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else." so all those who say the earth was made void….. not here.

“ and darkness was upon the face of the deep”. darkness here indicated not knowing, or ignorance. other words here in creation, no foundations. now God, (the Spirit), is moving upon the waters, to establish, or give order to our fundamental truths of nature, (natural life begins), the WISDOM of God.

Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old."Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was."Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water."Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:"Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world."Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:"Proverbs 8:28 "When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:"Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:"Proverbs 8:30 "Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;"Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men." ….. WISDOM, THE LIGHT OF GOD. John 1:4 "In him was life; and the life was the light of men."


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