Giants of Afganistan

[marks]

Hmm, well that site is reported as pseudo science.

Are you thinking that they faked the the newspaper articles?

much love!

 

[lforrest]

If a museum had an artifact that questioned the current scientific and archiological understanding would they put it in an exhibit? Or would that be too embarrassing to the institution and it's professionals?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Are you thinking that they faked the the newspaper articles?

much love!

I don't tend to just call people liars, but some people do like to fabricate truth to fool people, we know this from big foot and UFO articles fabricated by people over the years.

With ideas like giants I would tend to think only trusted sources can be believed or investigated. I would not waist my time with untrustworthy sources.

 

[Raccoon1010]

If a museum had an artifact that questioned the current scientific and archiological understanding would they put it in an exhibit? Or would that be too embarrassing to the institution and it's professionals?

Over the course of history that has been done countless times so yes they would examine and present countering evidence and have. Einstein's theories are a prime example of that.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Another example of disproving current theory is the ultra violet catastrophe problem that was solved by Max Planck. Which did away with the previous accepted theory.

 

[lforrest]

Over the course of history that has been done countless times so yes they would examine and present countering evidence and have. Einstein's theories are a prime example of that.

It would give a physicist notoriety to disprove a theory from Einstein. But in physics a theory is essentially a tool with no emotional investment aside from those who came up with the theory or who depend upon it to be correct for their own purposes. It is also not an item on display to the public, being abstract.

On the other side I do believe there is much emotional investment in evolutionary theory. Transforming it into a belief, a belief rooted in godlessness. Any doubt against it is not welcome, unless it can be thoroughly explained by some other equally godless means.

 

[Raccoon1010]

It would give a physicist notoriety to disprove a theory from Einstein. But in physics a theory is essentially a tool with no emotional investment aside from those who came up with the theory or who depend upon it to be correct for their own purposes. It is also not an item on display to the public, being abstract.

On the other side I do believe there is much emotional investment in evolutionary theory. Transforming it into a belief, a belief rooted in godlessness. Any doubt against it is not welcome, unless it can be thoroughly explained by some other equally godless means.

Perhaps, but that sounds like a gamble in the idea that people would deny truth for lies. I doubt that would happen.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

We have big foot here in the pacific northwest

I know someone whose wife and daughter saw one decades ago.... in Oregon.

Did you?

 

[Raccoon1010]

I know someone whose wife and daughter saw one decades ago.... in Oregon.

Did you?

No, I've sensed mountain lions and I've seen coyotes and bald eagles. We once had a barefoot man walk thru the dirt by our house. But I don't think it was big foot.

 

[lforrest]

If bigfoot were real, and other mythical creatures people claim to see, where do you suppose they might have come from? Are they simply demonic apparitions, or real living breathing creatures? Do they have some angelic heritage?

 

[Cassandra]

The origins of the demons is they are the unclean spirits of the dead giants God killed in the flood. And they were allowed to roam the world as the powers of the air. And they have Satan as their leader. A fallen angel is not a demon.

They seek to possess another body, as theirs God destroyed, and they are uncomfortable outside of a body. Besides that they were used to being in body and don't like not having one.

I thought the demons were the fallen angels who followed Satan

 

[lforrest]

I thought the demons were the fallen angels who followed Satan

If you get into the book of Enoch more details are provided about the fallen angels and Nepahlim.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I'm thinking there may be something to the story, but I'm not totally convinced either. And I strongly disagree with the idea of Nephylim.

The origins of the demons is they are the unclean spirits of the dead giants God killed in the flood. And they were allowed to roam the world as the powers of the air. And they have Satan as their leader. A fallen angel is not a demon.

They seek to possess another body, as theirs God destroyed, and they are uncomfortable outside of a body. Besides that they were used to being in body and don't like not having one.

Well, that does explain possession.

But what are the "angels" that are fallen with Satan/Lucifer?

 

[Cassandra]

If you get into the book of Enoch more details are provided about the fallen angels and Nepahlim.

I have read that the Book of enoch does not match the Bible, so I haven't read it. I dont believe the Nephilim are fallen angels or demons I think those two are the same thing. Angels cannot reproduce. If aperson was possessed and had a child, they he would be a possessed person who had a child. No more no less--it does not pass on

 

[Raccoon1010]

If you get into the book of Enoch more details are provided about the fallen angels and Nepahlim.

I got into it a little

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

If you get into the book of Enoch more details are provided about the fallen angels and Nepahlim.

It is amazing and has some plausible answers to some of the questions we often debate.
(Dont want to be a spoiler) (I definitely believe it is accurate)
I prefer this link as it is easy to read though is more simplified then some others.

https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/items/TheCompleteBookOfEnochStandardEnglishVersionJayWinter/The%20Complete%20Book%20of%20Enoch%2C%20Standard%20English%20Version%20-%20Jay%20Winter.pdf

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I have read that the Book of enoch does not match the Bible, so I haven't read it. I dont believe the Nephilim are fallen angels or demons I think those two are the same thing. Angels cannot reproduce. If aperson was possessed and had a child, they he would be a possessed person who had a child. No more no less--it does not pass on

Do you believe Enoch existed?

 

[lforrest]

I have read that the Book of enoch does not match the Bible, so I haven't read it. I dont believe the Nephilim are fallen angels or demons I think those two are the same thing. Angels cannot reproduce. If aperson was possessed and had a child, they he would be a possessed person who had a child. No more no less--it does not pass on

Jude 14-15 quotes the book of Enoch so I do not dismiss it entirely. There must have been a reason it was excluded from the biblical canon, so I don't put as much weight on it as the normal books.

 

[marks]

If you get into the book of Enoch more details are provided about the fallen angels and Nepahlim.

I don't use the Book of Enoch, however, years ago from my Bible studies I concluded that the unclean spirits are the spirits of the nephilim having been drown in the flood, but with no where to go. I'd never heard that idea before, I kind of kept it to myself until I learned this was the prevailing thought until early Christianity felt they had to clean up their image, and this was thought too outlandish.

To me it makes a full sense.

They wander arid placed looking for a body . . . why? Because they used to have one.

I think what really got me connected to this idea were words studies of "mooth" dead, and "rapha", something not quite the same, in the OT.

Much love!

 

[marks]

It is amazing and has some plausible answers to some of the questions we often debate.
(Dont want to be a spoiler) (I definitely believe it is accurate)
I prefer this link as it is easy to read though is more simplified then some others.

https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/items/TheCompleteBookOfEnochStandardEnglishVersionJayWinter/The%20Complete%20Book%20of%20Enoch%2C%20Standard%20English%20Version%20-%20Jay%20Winter.pdf

My problem with "the book of Enoch" is that it contains factual errors. The portals for the sun and the winds, for instance.

Much love!