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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil…” (1Jn 3:9-10, KJV)
Do you think this is a present obtainable reality or is it something that can only happen after the resurrection?
 
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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;

Do you think this is a present obtainable reality or is it something that can only happen after the resurrection?

It can happen as soon as you are born again, with Christ formed in you. For even the Apostle Paul admonished those in his circle of believers:

“I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare…” (2Co 13:2, KJV)

“Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness...” (2Co 13:10, KJV)
 

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It can happen as soon as you are born again, with Christ formed in you. For even the Apostle Paul admonished those in his circle of believers:

“I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare…” (2Co 13:2, KJV)

“Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness...” (2Co 13:10, KJV)
What are your thoughts on this verse?

1 Jn 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
 

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What are your thoughts on this verse?

1 Jn 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

My thoughts are, this is for us to warn others of.

For (next verse):

“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.” (1Jn 5:18, KJV)
 

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For one to argue that it's possible to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus lived) would be like arguing that it's possible for a football team in the NFL to go through an entire season without any players committing any penalties at all. One may argue that the potential is there, yet why does mankind and these NFL teams always fall short of those goals?

Men certainly do Not live “faultless”.
Mankind routinely Trespasses against mankind.

So the questions become…other questions.

WHAT IS “Sin”?
In Basic meaning… Un-Belief in God and His Word.
Affects all natural born mankind.


Glory to God,
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Men certainly do Not live “faultless”.
Mankind routinely Trespasses against mankind.

So the questions become…other questions.

WHAT IS “Sin”?
In Basic meaning… Un-Belief in God and His Word.
Affects all natural born mankind.


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unbelief is just one of many sins. The greek word is "harmatia" which means an arrow that has missed it's mark. What is the mark?

Ro 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
 
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So any Bible translation that waters down the act of committing sin should be replaced by a better translation.
If you want to discuss things at this level you really should learn the grammar. Your comments show you don't know the usage of the Greek Present Active in these passages.

Much love!
 
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Men certainly do Not live “faultless”.

“Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.” (Dan 6:4, KJV)

:IDK:
 

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Men certainly do Not live “faultless”.
Mankind routinely Trespasses against mankind.

So the questions become…other questions.

WHAT IS “Sin”?
In Basic meaning… Un-Belief in God and His Word.
Affects all natural born mankind.


Glory to God,
Taken
I think that's a huge but neglected part of this discussion. It's not just lying, or stealing, or this list of things that are sin. All that is not of faith is sin.

All the bickering back and forth, poor attitudes, contemptuous remarks, presumptions of evil in others, accusations, on and on it goes, all fleshy, all sinful.

Being routinely practiced on this very forum continually by ones without any apparent awareness of their fleshiness.

The fleshy unrighteous judging of others as they proclaim their own righteousness. Or more often, innuendo, since someone claiming to not ever sin is not likely to be believed.

Much love!
 

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“Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.” (Dan 6:4, KJV)

:IDK:
“Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.” (Dan 6:4, KJV)

:IDK:
Romans11:32
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that so called Christians will go to defend sin.

Amazing!
 

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You quote the words without understanding

And, of course, if I quoted your favorite pet verses, and was on your side of things, you would have no objections, or challenge my “understanding” or appeal to Greek tenses…

:hmhehm
 

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You quote the words without understanding

go and learn what it means, or you can continue to deflect, and interpret in error

“I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.” (Jer 23:14, KJV)
 

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And, of course, if I quoted your favorite pet verses, and was on your side of things, you would have no objections, or challenge my “understanding” or appeal to Greek tenses…
This is that presumption I was referring to. Ascribing evil to others in unrighteousness. And you don't see this being fleshy? OK.

Much love!
 
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“I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.” (Jer 23:14, KJV)
You are just digging your own hole, as you continue in this same way, attempting to discredit or marginalize me, or just making your self-affirming accusations, and you don't see that you are the one continuing in unrighteousness. All to avoid a simple point of grammar!

Much love!
 

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Men certainly do Not live “faultless”.
Mankind routinely Trespasses against mankind.

So the questions become…other questions.

WHAT IS “Sin”?
In Basic meaning… Un-Belief in God and His Word.
Affects all natural born mankind.

Glory to God,
Taken
Sin is missing the mark which is failing to reach God's standard and ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23) Sin comes from the Greek word "harmartia" used in the Bible, which comes from archery. This "mark" is God's bullseye which is His intended design for humanity, and falling short of it is sin. This encompasses both intentional and unintentional sins.
 

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Ascribing evil to others in unrighteousness. And you don't see this being fleshy? OK.

You have no clue what sin and evil are.

If you did, you would be on side of the ones destroying the works of the devil and his doctrines of devils.

You go and re-learn the Bible.

Unlearn the religious pedantic garbage you allowed yourself to be influenced by.