God’s Work In You

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“That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man; ye have put off the old man” (Eph 4:22; Col 3:9). What exactly is “putting off the old man”? It’s not sending it away, for it remains constant with us. To put off someone means not to attend to what they are saying, like putting off someone who desires your attention or wants you to do something for them. We are hearing the old man’s demands, but that’s all. We are not conceiving what it dictates, nor acting upon it in any way; we are just hearing it, and that’s all!

Surely it’s worth dealing with the sin nature (old man) in the proper and godly way Scripture instructs. God desire that we continue with the old man is for our continued learning (everything believers encounter is just for learning and nothing else). There is nothing more challenging to the saint than the sin nature (closest enemy), which ever attempts to trip us up, and delay our growth in the Lord Jesus (Eph 4:15). But God will not allow it to overtake you, for He has promised that “sin shall not have dominion over you” (Rom 6:14). What is sin’s dominion? It’s the ability is has to cause you to desire sin, which is countered by God’s “work in you.”

Christians have the Life of the Lord Jesus in them by the Spirit. It’s not the Life of the Spirit that He works in us but the Life of the Lord Jesus (Col 3:4); and it’s the power of the Spirit that works all this into place! Thus, it’s by the Spirit using the Life of Jesus in us that we can be a godly people, and children of the Father. Just as He will always be His Son, so shall we ever be the Father’s children!

It’s my strong suspicion that the devil uses the old man as a door when He temp us, and that the Holy Spirit uses the new man (nature from Christ - Col 3:10) to guide and enable us; but our heart’s treasure is God, thus nothing can really sway us in any direction (Mat 6:21). No matter how often we are approached by the enemy (self, Satan and society), God does not allow ultimately anything but what our treasure provides—encouragement away from sin’s opposition.

We hear the old man; we see the devil and we interact with others in a godly manner—but ultimately we always choose “to will and to do of His good pleasure,” for it is the Father Himself that “works” this “in you” (Phl 2:13).
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“That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man; ye have put off the old man” (Eph 4:22; Col 3:9). What exactly is “putting off the old man”? It’s not sending it away, for it remains constant with us. To put off someone means not to attend to what they are saying, like putting off someone who desires your attention or wants you to do something for them. We are hearing the old man’s demands, but that’s all. We are not conceiving what it dictates, nor acting upon it in any way; we are just hearing it, and that’s all!

Surely it’s worth dealing with the sin nature (old man) in the proper and godly way Scripture instructs. God desire that we continue with the old man is for our continued learning (everything believers encounter is just for learning and nothing else). There is nothing more challenging to the saint than the sin nature (closest enemy), which ever attempts to trip us up, and delay our growth in the Lord Jesus (Eph 4:15). But God will not allow it to overtake you, for He has promised that “sin shall not have dominion over you” (Rom 6:14). What is sin’s dominion? It’s the ability is has to cause you to desire sin, which is countered by God’s “work in you.”

Christians have the Life of the Lord Jesus in them by the Spirit. It’s not the Life of the Spirit that He works in us but the Life of the Lord Jesus (Col 3:4); and it’s the power of the Spirit that works all this into place! Thus, it’s by the Spirit using the Life of Jesus in us that we can be a godly people, and children of the Father. Just as He will always be His Son, so shall we ever be the Father’s children!

It’s my strong suspicion that the devil uses the old man as a door when He temp us, and that the Holy Spirit uses the new man (nature from Christ - Col 3:10) to guide and enable us; but our heart’s treasure is God, thus nothing can really sway us in any direction (Mat 6:21). No matter how often we are approached by the enemy (self, Satan and society), God does not allow ultimately anything but what our treasure provides—encouragement away from sin’s opposition.

We hear the old man; we see the devil and we interact with others in a godly manner—but ultimately we always choose “to will and to do of His good pleasure,” for it is the Father Himself that “works” this “in you” (Phl 2:13).
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I can certainly identify with this! I have to renew my pledges to God virtually every day! There is always the old man hitching a ride in my life, and I have to ignore him, and sometimes openly renounce him. Sometimes I feel it's my fault for getting too close to the fire. I get into conversations with people that really aren't willing to be civil or open, and the resulting conflict seems I could've avoided.

However, I've noticed that many times the conflict comes to me. And no matter how much I try to excuse myself from it, and escape, the conflict is forced upon me by others, who expose me to that "old man," who wants to fight back, get angry, and dirty the waters. The net result is that I extract myself with others still angry at me for all kinds of reasons.

But your teaching here is, I think, spot on. We just need to accept what God sends our way and accept the persecution, if necessary. And we need to admit that we're not perfect. As much as we try our flaws are going to be exposed.

But I take consolation in the fact God knows all these things. And I believe He's never more happy with us than when we deny the old man in ourselves, choosing to maintain the life of the Spirit, which is, as you say, the life of Christ. He has imparted to us his own divine life so that we may enjoy the benefits of his righteousness.

We aren't yet perfect, like him. But we have enough of him running through us that we can rest assured we are on the "path of the just," and will wake up "in the morning" into a paradise that the Lord has prepared for us! :)
 
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We aren't yet perfect, like him. But we have enough of him running through us that we can rest assured we are on the "path of the just," and will wake up "in the morning" into a paradise that the Lord has prepared for us! :)
Appreciate you sharing this, and showing the strength you have in Christ. It's enough for our encouragement to know we're saved and on our way up, and that nothing can change this. We think on this, while we go through our courses of trials, and we are taught by the Spirit to respond the way we should to all things; and in it all we are secured nd satisfied while we wait.
 
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