God in the Pledge of Allegiance

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stanleyg

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God in the Pledge of AllegianceThe Internet Zone of Chuck Staub​
There has recently been complaints about having children recite the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools because it has the words "one nation under god" in it. It was recently ruled so in one of our courts. Let us hope that we are indeed a nation under god. Try taking god out of all our government documents and you will see an uproar that will be heard across the land, from coast to coast. Let us hope that our country is under gods guidance and that we show respect to god in our laws of the land. Each person can believe in whatever god they wish. That is not the point. There is a god and he may be called by many names. Take god out of the United States government and our enemies have won. We will be infidels, and they will have a right to call us "the damned United States" because without god, we will truly be damned as a nation.

Pledge of Allegiance​
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Preamble​
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Amendment I​
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Our United States Supreme Court is interpreting our United States Constitution autonomously from our Preamble. The Preamble is a sentence that defines the intent of the delegates of the Philadelphia Convention for ratifying our United States Constitution. Observe clearly that our Preamble states the "blessings of liberty". The terminology "blessings" is a spiritual term that can only connotate the meaning that liberty is a gift of God. As such, it is reprehensible that any Supreme Court Justice could lawfully construe that the Founding Fathers would have intended that the use of the word God in our Pledge of Allegiance could pose any threat to our civil liberties. The First Amendment is to estop Congress from passing any law that may jeopardize the likelihood of Church and State joining powers to pursue religious persecution. Congress has made laws that do violate the Separation of Church and State which the Supreme Court has yet to strike down. Civilians have been imprisoned as a result of said lawmaking.For Example:Freedom of assembly is protected for each group in our Union. The Church exercises its freedom of assembly to assemble any day and/or hour of the week without the threat of police halting its assembly. Yet, certain State lawmakers have passed State laws that prohibit civilians to purchase alcoholic beverages during Sunday morning hours in respect to the general time period associated with Christian and/or Catholic religious services. The Church is a tax exempt nonprofit charitable institution. Yet, State lawmakers and/or police protect the freedom of assembly of the Church and deny the equality of treatment for non church going civilians to assemble any day and/or hour of the week to enjoy his or her freedom. Would it be fair for State lawmakers to pass laws to deny the Church to assemble on Saturday evening to avoid disturbing the business of night clubs, juke joints, bars etc. that pay taxes?
 

BernieEOD

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There are several way s to look at this:1) First of all, the words "Under God" were inserted in the 1950's. Up until that time, it was our conduct that would show who we were under and didn't have to explain it to ourselves in a pledge or any other institutionalised gesture. (Not that our conduct reflected this but adding this disfuntional lip service to God didn't change anything)2) People today cannot even begin to comprehend what it was like to fight the revolution. Actually, it was the same victory that the VC had over us in Viet Nam and the Iraqi Insurgents will have over us in Iraq. A group of ragtag rebels against the worlds superpower. The Founding Fathers were not under any dilusions that it was their frit, skill or some other earthy ability that gave them victory over the British. They believed that it was the divine Grace of God that allowed them to prevail. In his farewell address, George Washington warned "Do not believe that you can have national morality apart from religious principle". John Adams warned "The Constitution was written for a moral religious people. It is inadaquate for the governemnt of any other."God himself warns that nation who reject him ar given over to degrading passions. 3) So, while this form of disfuntional lip service is hardly worth defending. Our actions, not our words should reflect our faith. It is equally distressing that there are enough people in this nation who are in such open rebellion against God. You cannot make any part of the Earth a "God Free Zone". Our Constitution is a secualr document and any attempt to elivate it to devine is daring God to judge us. In the eternal realm, the only "Right" an unbeliever has is to hear the word of God and repent. If the unbeliever hears the word and rejects it, then the unbeliever will not only suffer in this world but in the next. Actually, an unbeliever who does not suffer in this life is only storing up more wrath for himself in the next life.