Grand DECEPTION of Today's Unbelieving Jews

[Douggg]

Verse 39 couldn't possibly be meaning before verse 29.

Matthew 24:29 is at the end of the great tribulation. Matthew 24:38 describes what what the world will be like before the great tribulation. Jesus coming for the resurrection/rapture will be before the great tribulation begins.

Therefore, verse 39 is post trib not pretrib.

Matthew 24 :39 is the flood, which like the great tribulation, is a time of mass dying. The eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marrage in Matthew 24:38 is before a time of mass dying.

Matthew 24:
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the ay that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

 

[Davy]

Post #34

My post again, #37, proof that you are bearing false witness on this matter.

 

[Davy]

No, the resurrection/rapture will be at a time before the world enters great tribulation.

Any Bible student who has read John 5:28-29 or John 6 well knows the above is not true.

In John 5:28-29 Jesus said both the "resurrection of life", AND the "resurrection of damnation" will occur at the sound of His voice, pointing to the last day of this world with His future coming. That simply destroys... ANY idea that Jesus comes to 'rapture' the Church prior to the tribulation.

Likewise, in John 6, Jesus showed that He will raise up those of His on the LAST DAY, meaning the last day of this present world, which of course means AFTER... the tribulation.

So I don't know where you're getting your info from, but it ain't from The Bible.

 

[JimKnox]

My post again, #37, proof that you are bearing false witness on this matter.

Stop it.
I am no preterist.
Buzz off.
Blocked.

 

[Davidpt]

Matthew 24:29 is at the end of the great tribulation. Matthew 24:38 describes what what the world will be like before the great tribulation. Jesus coming for the resurrection/rapture will be before the great tribulation begins.



Matthew 24 :39 is the flood, which like the great tribulation, is a time of mass dying. The eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marrage in Matthew 24:38 is before a time of mass dying.

Matthew 24:
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the ay that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

All of that is absurd, the fact once Jesus gets to verse 29 He never focus' on great tribulation again. His focus from that point on is what follows after great tribulation has ended. You have Him talking about great tribulation in verses 15-26, then have Him talking about His coming after great tribulation in verses 30-31, then have Him once again talking about verses 15-26 in verse 39. Thus you have Him being all over the place rather than having Him being systematically coherant about things instead.

The context surrounding verse 39 is not great tribulation, the context is judgment that follows after great tribulation.

Assuming you are still alive at the time, it's only a matter of time before you are undeniably proved wrong. The fact you are still going to be here when verse 21 takes place whether you like it or not. There's only 1 way that you won't be here during when verse 21 takes place. And that is, if you die before that verse is fulfilled.

Granted, Preterists and those that agree with Preterist thinking but are not Preterists themselves, would have us believe that verse 21 has already been fulfilled 2k years ago. The same goes for these. It's only a matter of time before they are proved wrong as well, when verse 21 begins taking place and that they can no longer deny it since they would be living right in the midst of it.

 

[Davy]

Stop it.
I am no preterist.
Buzz off.
Blocked.

Anyone... who treats all Old Testament Scripture as dead history is involved in men's false seminary doctrine called Preterism.

It comes from the word 'preter' which means 'what is past'. The Preterist is taught to rely on The Gospel Books and Apostle Paul's Epistles, and regard the rest of The Bible as past history. I was raised in that kind of Church. It only taught a small bit of Old Testament history as a child in Sunday School, and then concentrated on The Gospel Books and Paul's writings. NO PROPHECY from The Old Testament was covered, nor was Bible prophecy from The New Testament ever covered, except that Christ's 2nd coming was still future.

 

[Douggg]

All of that is absurd, the fact once Jesus gets to verse 29 He never focus' on great tribulation again. His focus from that point on is what follows after great tribulation has ended.

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

The tribulation of those days is referring to near the end of the great tribulation. It is when the sign of the Son of man appears in heaven.

 

[Davy]

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

The tribulation of those days is referring to near the end of the great tribulation. It is when the sign of the Son of man appears in heaven.


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I wish you'd quit posting that false chart. It does not align with the written Bible events for the end.

Per Daniel 9:27, the "abomination of desolation" happens exactly in the MIDDLE of the symbolic "one week" (7 years). That means after the first 1260 days period, the AOD is setup. Then the latter half 1260 day period happens, ending with Christ's future return and gathering of His Church.

The 1290 days and 1335 days are extensions for AFTER Christ's future return, not during the tribulation period.

 

[Douggg]

The 1290 days and 1335 days are extensions for AFTER Christ's future return, not during the tribulation period.

The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation statue image is set up on the temple month. It will be destroyed the day that Jesus returns. Not allowed to remain there for a extended period of time.

 

[Davidpt]

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

The tribulation of those days is referring to near the end of the great tribulation. It is when the sign of the Son of man appears in heaven.


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How is one to make sense out of what you just said? The sign of the Son of man is after the trib of those days. How then can you have it meaning during the trib of those days if it is after them? Further proof that your charts are pure fiction. They don't even align with the texts.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

How is one to make sense out of what you just said?

Good point; imho, it is just one of many Different [ Confusing? ] interpretations of "Israel's" endtimes.

I would rather focus on Today's Grace Message for the lost, and then equipping the saints about "good works"
In "The Revelation Of The Mystery" For The Body Of Christ, in preparation for our own Bema Judgment Seat
Of Christ!

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.