Grocery prices are not the problem

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i lived in Europe (Germany) 5 years, they get payed more, work less and get 2 months vacation a year. plus shopping for food in germany is like shopping at the all natural grocery story here which you pay more.
i also dont understand what housing has to do with paying $50 dollars for 2 small bags of groceries that should cost 10. if your mortgage is $500 or 1500 your still over paying $40 for the food

Since that Covid shut down thing, my sisters rent up north went from $750 a month to something like $1500 a month. Sweatin' egg prices for being $10 (where and when they were) is nothing compared to the other costs don't you think?
 

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Since that Covid shut down thing, my sisters rent up north went from $750 a month to something like $1500 a month. Sweatin' egg prices for being $10 (where and when they were) is nothing compared to the other costs don't you think?
i think the cost of everything is going up so yes i agree. rent and food the most
it could be a good thing, i see more people raising their own chickens, goats, etc. homes a bit more challenging with so many not being able to afford land. i wish the US would go back to public housing and get rid of rent subsidies which just adds fuel to the fire.
 

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Do you believe if healthcare was free that you would actually get the care you need in that set up? Just because its free does not garentee you care. Ever hear the horror stories of this free care?
Will you get care?
Yes.

Will you go in and be repeatedly questioned and asked if you're suicidal because you accidentally burned your arm on a frying pan making eggs that morning?

Also yes, maybe.

tsml

But for FReEe!
 
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Will you get care?
Yes.

Will you go in and be repeatedly questioned and asked if you're suicidal because you accidentally burned your arm on a frying pan making eggs that morning?

Also yes, maybe.

Try calling the VA dental clinic for an apointment to obtain it, you will get a full mailbox every single time, no one answers phones to take appointments either. So its free care, its just non existent as far as your ability to obtain it. Good luck obtaining what is yours.
 
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i think the cost of everything is going up so yes i agree. rent and food the most
it could be a good thing, i see more people raising their own chickens, goats, etc. homes a bit more challenging with so many not being able to afford land. i wish the US would go back to public housing and get rid of rent subsidies which just adds fuel to the fire.

All of this was created by them through various crooked means.

Now, I have heard of these 15 minute cities, and so maybe these will be the government's "new solution" to the very problems they have created (that was said tongue n' cheek)
 

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Just say you have free dental with the VA. Try calling the VA dental clinic for an apointment to obtain it, you will get a full mailbox every single time, no one answers phones to take appointments either. So its free care, its just non existent as far as your ability to obtain it. Good luck obtaining what is yours. I have paid 100% of al things I am supposed to have free but cannot obtain.

I am not griping about it, we are in a position to do these things for ourselves, and I could only have expected so much (meaning, free care is not necessarily free care when you cannot obtain that care, thats not care at all) thats being financed to neglect people gullible enough to believe they will get it.
It's super hard these days. It might depend on where you live.

Last household dental bill was $400 with "good" insurance. Insurance only covered somewhere between $20-40.

I had free healthcare as a single mom, also as a former military wife. Military medical coverage is amazing. As a civilian, its not always great. I had a mix of a little bit of everything.
 
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It's super hard these days. It might depend on where you live.

Last household dental bill was $400 with "good" insurance. Insurance only covered somewhere between $20-40.

I had free healthcare as a single mom, also as a former military wife. Military medical coverage is amazing. As a civilian, its not always great. I had a mix of a little bit of everything.

My last dental bill was $3,000 for one root canal and crown, this week
 
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Do you believe if healthcare was free that you would actually get the care you need in that set up? Just because it’s free does not garentee you care. Ever hear the horror stories of this free care?
My posting was intended as irony. If you read the link, it has an example of a Canadian will need to wait over a year just to obtain a an ultrasound.

Blessings.
 

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You said "as is often the case". Can you give me three examples of how a nation-wide spiritual reawakening fixed nation-wide economy?
That is an interesting response. To begin, the two better-known examples of nation reawakening are 18th century Great Britain and 19th century U.S. So, Wilberforce in GB led the movement to abolish slavery. The short-term effect was a huge change in human suffering, but also caused economic turmoil. Was the long-term change measurably beneficial to GB’s economy? Good question.

A nation’s economy likely depends at least 80% on the government, but surely a decline in drug use and deaths must be positive economically (ditto criminal violence—we would prefer people not resort to violence to acquire goods, eliminate rivals, etc.).

Blessings.
 
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My posting was intended as irony. If you read the link, it has an example of a Canadian will need to wait over a year just to obtain a an ultrasound.

Blessings.
Theres the problem, I refrain from clicking on links, so thats sort of on me. Sorry about that, I miss the irony because of my link phobia.
 

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My last dental bill was $3,000 for one root canal and crown, this week and I am the Veteran and my husband gets better care than I do and he is my spouse. He can choose where he goes, I cannot (unless I pay out of pocket)

Funny thing, the dentist will always ask, "do you have insurance for this? And I shot back, yeah, the absolute best I am 100% covered on this procedure, but unfortunately the VA don't answer the phone to perform that procedure. So here I am paying $3000 for one tooth.

He did say "Yeah, I have heard that alot from Veterans", and so really, the taxpayers just pay for the Adminstation to exist to deny Veterans. Like paid gatekeepers to care. While others want you to jump up and down for the U.S to provide care foreigners, and don't understand why you might have an issue with that

(Oh how mean of you!) clfh
Oh my goodness. I'm sorry. They should have taken care of you for that!

:(
 
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Do you believe if healthcare was free that you would actually get the care you need in that set up? Just because its free does not garentee you care. Ever hear the horror stories of this free care?
Like Canada, Australia has free healthcare. If you pay a small fee into an ambulance fund, even if you have no insurance of any kind, in an emergency, you will be transported to the nearest public hospital and receive the best care available in that public system....and it won’t cost you a cent, except for perhaps some follow up medication which is mostly subsidised by the government as well.

There is a Medicare levy that is taken from all wage earners to support the system. No one is turned away because they can’t afford medical assistance or hospital stays.

Is it a flawless system? By no means....but we have optional health insurance which is taken out by choice if you can afford it. This will guarantee treatment in a private hospital under the best doctors who charge ridiculous fees for their services, because they can. Private hospitals too, can charge ridiculous fees for those who can afford it.....because like America the health industry here is all about the money....you can get anything if you can pay for it.

Australia is consistent in that it pays a living wage even for unskilled workers. But economically the whole world is getting harder to live in. We too have our homeless problem but nothing of the magnitude in once wealthy and prosperous America. Very few in Australia are working, and many are drug addicts and alcoholics.
No one should have to work 3 jobs just to exist.

But one thing that hasn’t been mentioned, that is a problem in all nations, is the military budget......no expense is spared on ways to kill “the enemy”, whilst ignoring the plight of ordinary citizens who are just trying to keep a roof of sorts over their heads, and food in their bellies. Imagine if the money spent on taking lives was spent on saving them....!?....was spent on giving children a quality of life that is not only open to the rich....and even then, how many wealthy and famous people are truly happy, or contribute to the well being of others?

This is why no nation on earth with blood on their hands can ever be called “Christian”. (Isa 1:15)
“Thou shalt not kill” is part of the 10 Commandments.....so why was it that Israel could have a military force and take the lives of their enemies back in Bible times?

In a word....”sanction”.
Israel was sanctioned by God to protect the land that he had specifically gifted to them. Foreign nations wanted that very good, productive land for themselves, and Israel could have kept it and been blessed if only they had not disobeyed their Creator for the whole of their history.

God’s blessing was conditional as it is to this day. We can receive it “IF” we obey the laws that God laid down. Israel never did, and those who claim to be “Christians” in our day haven’t either. They too have unsanctioned blood on their hands. All their conflicts are about national pride, corrupt politics and greed for resources....never is God in the picture except to help them kill others for their own selfish gains. Would he be part of that? Who is ruling the world? (1 John 5:19)

God has not gifted the present nations with their land, which many took by force and with much bloodshed and even attempted genocide for the original inhabitants.

The Bible told us what would take place in this time of the end.....in the ride of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, it says.....
“When the Lamb broke the third seal, I heard the third living being say, “Come!” I looked up and saw a black horse, and its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard a voice from among the four living beings say, “A loaf of wheat bread or three loaves of barley will cost a day’s pay. And don’t waste the olive oil and wine.” (NLT)
FWIW. that is where we are headed right now.....and nothing the nations do, will fix what is broken.....only God can.

So you are right...”grocery prices are not the problem”.....it goes much deeper than most people imagine.
 
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So you are right...”grocery prices are not the problem”.....it goes much deeper than most people imagine.

Sure there are many factors…
You mentioned a couple of things…homeless, addicts, who do not contribute…but their “free” care is dependent on the wage earner.

I am not a proponent of Government threatening, compelling one to support another.

The US government already over taxes their people to support their 400 + Agencies and over 1 million employees to operate the Agencies… many of which have no Constitutional Authority.
 

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Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.
This is how they take us to “You’ll own nothing and be happy”.

It will get worse and worse until even the upper middle class can’t keep their heads above water.
 
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Sure there are many factors…
You mentioned a couple of things…homeless, addicts, who do not contribute…but their “free” care is dependent on the wage earner.

I am not a proponent of Government threatening, compelling one to support another.

The US government already over taxes their people to support their 400 + Agencies and over 1 million employees to operate the Agencies… many of which have no Constitutional Authority.
Can you name a single governmental system operating in a civilised society that has had any measure of success in ridding the world of crime, violence, poverty or war?

Why is God allowing so many different systems of government, only to have them all fail?....democracy is only the latest. It never was “a government of the people, by the people and for the people” because the “people” in power were always corrupt liars who were in power for the benefits to themselves. They pretend to care but the blinders are off.....they can’t fool all the people all the time....so many now are getting their news from more trusted sources....not the fake news that is fed to the masses via MSM...which is nothing more than perception management....propaganda....as old as time itself.

Any man (or woman) who entered politics with good intentions of changing the status quo, were soon dispatched after a smear campaign and replaced with a team player. The ‘good guys’ come to realize that they are but a small cog in a very big machine, designed to keep everything just where the big guys want it.

So if the good people want to be true to their own values, they have to leave because the system will not let them change much of anything....and so the rot continues.

God has allowed humans to “reap what they have sown”....to show them that ruling themselves ends in disaster for everyone. God did not create us to have power over each other but to respect His authority and do as we are told......he would give us nothing but good...and keep evil away. If only we had learned that lesson sooner....back in the garden where it all began.
 
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Can you name a single governmental system operating in a civilised society that has had any measure of success in ridding the world of crime, violence, poverty or war?
There are none.
And it's getting worse till the end comes.
It's all in scripture.
 
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