Hamas has attacked Israel with 5000 rockets, 100 dead Israelis. Israel and Hamas now at war
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Wrangler
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I couldn't watch the whole vid. These young skulls full of mush do not realize that Palestinian liberation has already happened!
They do not know history.
They do not know that at the end of World War I, there was a 2 State solution, where the country of Jordan was created for the Palestinians.
The Palestinians do not seek "liberation" but conquest; they cannot acknowledge Israel's right to exist - and this is the root cause problem of violence.
So you don't think this so-called war is an inside job. really! That the Israeli intelligence and even the US version knew of it and actually planned it out and executed it completely, using major Palestinian orgs to be baited in with convenient $$$ and firepower, double agents etc.
Hamas says it has enough Israeli captives to free all Palestinian prisoners
Speaking to Al Jazeera, Hamas deputy chief Saleh al-Arouri says group expects fighting with Israel to continue.www.aljazeera.com
Of a goal to wipe out the culture and identity of the Palestinians for good before any global political changes or fluctuations might make this impossible in the near-future.
And of course, the same Zionist media in the West are broadcasting their same propaganda and what they want you to hear and see, with cries of so-called Anti-Semitism and the like? No doubt there are actual innocence lost as in any staged or non-staged war, although this time to cover or conceal or divert attention away from themselves and ride on the emotions of people...like what happened in the event know as '9/11.'
It's a theory worth pursuing, although getting hard facts will be very difficult.
To think that many 1000's of rockets and arms and $$ transfers can be hidden today is very remarkable, especially situated and in the largest open-air prison in the world, for the Palestinians, called the Gaza strip. And of course the convenience and over-used Iranian connection is never too far away with the TV taking-heads.
This 'war' was/is far too convenient and ran so 'smoothly' for my appetite. Made with the hands of bloody Zionism, Bankers and especially the Rothschilds who make a deal with the devil and the British in 1917 to buy the land and wipe out it indigenous people.
They just have not finished completing the job yet!
Hamas is not your enemy.....look deeper
Going by what Hamas says, they are an enemy of more than just Israel and Jews, and God.
God does have enemies.
He then attributes to Muhammad the saying, "Allah drew the ends of the world near one another for my sake. And I have seen its eastern and western ends. The dominion of my nation would reach those ends that have been drawn near. The entire 510 million square kilometers of planet Earth will come under (a system) where there is no injustice, no oppression, no treachery, no Zionism, no treacherous Christianity, and no killings and crimes like those being committed against the Palestinians, and against the Arabs in all the Araba countries. in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and other countries."
There goes another billion.
The 6 member 'squad' is upset, not unusual as they are always upset about something.
The 6 member 'squad' is upset, not unusual as they are always upset about something.
These are very desperate people Scott..to their breaking point..and I do not vouch for extreme thinking here whether its from a Palestinian or Israeli,,etc. We could go back and forth all day long on this point. You could cite example after example of extreme thinking as you dub the entire people as the same...not a good thing to do. Must dissect what and who is saying and acting these things. Cannot broad-brush everyone with the same stripe(s).
Wrangler
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Here is an area that we disagree. A basic mistake made by the West is to confuse Islam with Muslims.
Islam is an evil ideology.
Muslims are the biggest victims of Islam.
Like Christians, there are a range of Muslim devotion to Islam. No doubt most are "nominal" or cultural oriented but just try to get by everyday.
Imagine your statement being made by the Left about White Supremacy? They have no problem dubbing the entire people as the same, all Whites as racists, etc. If not, I'd love to see a vid of a Leftist denoucing the condemnation of all White people as Supremacists.
BlessedPeace
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We have a movement that boasts to cancelling history that is not approved to continue to exist on the record.
It stands to reason soft minds would be manipulated.
Well I have not introduced Islam into this discussion yet, you have, for me.
I have been discussing and promoting all along the idea that true and evil Zionism is at the root of this evil....Islam did not make or cause the creation of Zionism. Islam cannot be made the sole cause and scape goat for evil here, and or why Palestinians are very desperate people today. This is more that this religion. It's their survival instincts kicking in. Islam is an ingredient and by no means a major player here. This is the propaganda that is being fed to the West...
Zionism does not represent even the 'religion' of Judaism. It grew out of their deep jealousy over 1500 years now, of non-Jews, their prosperity, their lands, their inventions their traceable ancestry, their superior claimed 'Christian' values etc, starting in Europe where modern Zionism was born, actually within 200 miles from where my Dad was born, and its first Israeli PM emigrated from....Islam is not a part of this equation and is only a minor player. Islam is a red herring, a distraction or diversion and confuses the current situation.
Zionism do not represnt grew out of their jealousy over 1500 years now, of non-Jews their prosperity, their superior claimed 'Christian' values etc....Islam is not a part of this equation and is only a minor player.
Ronald David Bruno
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And I will make you into a great nation (Israel),
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing;
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” Gen. 12:2-3
Be careful! The Bible clearly says in the end times the many nations who come against Jerusalem (Israel) will be destroyed!
“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” Zech 12:3
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zech. 12:9, 10
A brewing jihad is stirring worldwide in Muslim nations.
Iran will gather ten nations to go against Israel. The fire has been lit. Already today we see many Muslim nations in an uproar. Maybe they are downplaying it but that crowd in Bagdad looked like hundreds of thousands. Already Iran, Syria, Lebonon, Jordan, Iraq ... who else will join in? Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen?
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zech.” 14:2-4
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yes, it is written by God what will happen in the end times for this region.
We can't say this is the very last of the last days yet though, as at the end, all nations really despise Israel of the Jews, and we still see plenty of worldwide government support, at the moment. But we also see brewing in people worldwide a fierce hatred. Don't know what the springboard will be yet to full out hatred that will bring all the nations against Israel, but it will have something to do with the deceiving spirit of Satan and his antichrist.
If these people (of Gen 12:2-3) were the spiritual nation, let alone the actual physical descendent of Jacob I would agree with you....and by the way you have this scripture displaced and now redundant since the time of Christ and you should know this if you are a believer anyway....These, at least 95% of them, are of the Khazarian converts to Judaism and Jewry of around 700-800 AD. They are fakers, and also evil, destructive, of those in power and influence.
Macron out with a strong negative comment on Gaza today.
Wrangler
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Zionism did not fire 5,000 missiles into Israel my friend.
No they did not. They, those in part of the Israeli govt, UN EU and the US-Anglo interest provided the funding and or the weapons (with Israeli, Anglo and US intel folks)... count on it. As I said to Scott it would be incredible to store such size and type of weaponry and even funds without the intel apparatus from finding out...The Gaza strip is only so big and surveilled so so heavily... They were given the green light...to 'attack'...
Wrangler
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Jew hating speculation, plain and simple. Sad to see. Your use of the term "Zionist" reveals your hatred for the Jews.
I support Israel BIG TIME and never use that term.
Well that's cool you support Israel. And I won't ask you this time what that really means...
However, I did not invent the term Zionism or Anti-Semitism. Zionist did by the way, as a useful tool to play the victim and gain/get their way in the West. Try playing that card on an Arab and he would LOL! They don't because these Jews (most) and Zionists do not have descendants that set their feet in the desert, and were never Semitic, with that language, as speakers and writers. They scurried to fit this bill starting in the late 19th century.
And I did not create these Zionist people who are not most modern Jews, by the way.
You think I hate, and that's a strong word. I do not hate any anyone. It is not in me to do so. I hate the evil in certain people that attempt to or impose their own will on others that defied God and his Son.
There is a bigger picture I believe you are not seeing here. Need to get from amongst the trees of its smell and noise, and pollution, and look at the forest as a whole and its associations and health outside of its self. How is this forest nurtured, fed and watered, and pruned and its trees cut down. Who decided it all, by whom?
I would not infuse or complicate religious beliefs per se into this equation unless you tread carefully and know where you are walking. It can dominate and kill off any clear reasoning on this emotionally charged topic.
Wrangler
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Do you think calling a Black man the N-word has no relationship with hate? Same with the Z-word.
Wrangler
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From Hezbollah ‘Fully Prepared’ To Join Hamas In War With Israel
“The speech came during a rally in a Beirut suburb, where hundreds of people gathered in unison with Hamas, waving flags representing Palestine and Hezbollah while screaming “Death to Israel.”
Not too often in Israel do you hear ‘screams of Death to Muslim countries.’
“The speech came during a rally in a Beirut suburb, where hundreds of people gathered in unison with Hamas, waving flags representing Palestine and Hezbollah while screaming “Death to Israel.”
Not too often in Israel do you hear ‘screams of Death to Muslim countries.’
