Hamas has attacked Israel with 5000 rockets, 100 dead Israelis. Israel and Hamas now at war

[Truthnightmare]

According to the logic

Oh, you're Israel? You're in Israel?

Where did Israel go after their Assyrian captivity?

 

[Jack]

According to the logic

Where did Israel go after their Assyrian captivity?

Israel was scattered. But they are back to stay! All who speak against Israel are committing spiritual suicide and following Satan to Hell fire!

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Amen Jesus!

 

[Truthnightmare]

Think about it, just 8 people on the ark,, there were no Kenites on the ark. Descendents of Cain were not of God, they did not make it on the ark. God's purpose was to destroy ALL mankind except for that Noah and family found favor with God.

Noah Pleases God​

9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, [f]perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.

The Ark Prepared​

13 And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

NOAH was perfect in his generations plural. God preserved the line of Noah, it was not corrupted by the Nephilim seed of the Serpent, so there were no descendants of Cain on the ark.

I agree, no Kenites on the ark. But later we se Kenites in the Bible.
The subject is the land of the Adamics, not the entire globe.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Israel was scattered. But they are back to stay! All who speak against Israel are committing spiritual suicide and following Satan to Hell fire!

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Amen Jesus!

Are you insinuating Amos 9 has happened?

 

[Jack]

Are you insinuating Amos 9 has happened?

God couldn't have said it any clearer. Israel is back to stay!

 

[Truthnightmare]

God couldn't have said it any clearer. Israel is back to stay!

Ok.. let’s gather some understanding here,.
Are you under the belief that Israel is 12 tribes, and they were scattered but they are now residing in the land of Israel/Palestine?

 

[Jack]

Ok.. let’s gather some understanding here,.
Are you under the belief that Israel is 12 tribes, and they were scattered but they are now residing in the land of Israel/Palestine?

Do you have a map? It's called Israel.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Do you have a map? It's called Israel.

Indeed, but if I move to Japan, that doesn’t make me Japanese.
Can we agree that the Israel (people) spoken of in the Bible are made up of 10 tribes and not 12?
After 1st Kings…

 

[Jack]

Indeed, but if I move to Japan, that doesn’t make me Japanese.
Can we agree that the Israel (people) spoken of in the Bible are made up of 10 tribes and not 12?
After 1st Kings…

It's still called Israel. A tiny dot on the map that won't go away. It's mentioned over 2500 times in the Bible. The seed of Abraham.

 

[Truthnightmare]

It's still called Israel. A tiny dot on the map that won't go away. It's mentioned over 2500 times in the Bible. The seed of Abraham.

I agree, but my question is how many tribes make up current Israel. There are major implications regarding the understanding of who Israel is regarding this question.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

An example ?
Back in the Days of Jacob becoming Israel ?
Now his Son's 2 of whom are the ones who he wanted with his wife he loved, now the rest were with one wife that he was undermined with and the other two were not his wives ?
Now Jacob did not become Israel until he had the two Son's to his Wife that he wanted and loved ? is that correct ?

Now again we see One Son who is Loved the most by his Dad in fact and then when the other Son's go rid of that Son, then who was favored more ? well it was the younger brother of that one he loved in fact ?

So we can go into all that if one wants, but we see down the track what goes on with all that and all.

But now we come to the People from Jacob Israel blood line lets say regardless ? well then as the generations go by, we see others who are not of that blood line regarding Jacob Israel and the 4 women that of his off spring ?
Now who are such as them who are half cast one could say ? half of the line from Jacob Israel to some other Semitic Tribe in fact or maybe another as we see maybe true even with Negros etc etc.

So how much % is one regarded to be, of that original blood line from the 4 wife's of Jacob Israel ? I would say regarding the percentage one would have to be 100% as half does not cunt the mustard in fact for a start ?

Then again one can only go back 3 generations to be worthy of anything resembling you in fact, because once one truly understands how your DNA works, They who are 4 times removed are not your people in fact, because the system when understood is way to vast to make any sense of being truly related to them in fact. But you are related in fact but not that you are called blood brothers truly in a worthy sense. or even in a legal sense even.
If one is related regarding to your fist cousins and your mum and dad die, Then it comes back to that they have responsibility's by rights or can have such by Law ! but not your 2ed cousins ? but for exceptions in such regard.

 

[Jack]

I agree, but my question is how many tribes make up current Israel. There are major implications regarding the understanding of who Israel is regarding this question.

Israel is Israel. They are back to stay. All the armies in the world cannot defeat Israel.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Israel is Israel. They are back to stay. All the armies in the world cannot defeat Israel.

No. Israel is not Israel, and because you are not familiar with what has happening to Israel you mistakenly lump all tribes together calling them all Israel.

In the process of time these Twelve Tribes had a rift, and split into two Kingdoms:

The Southern Kingdom:
Consisted of two of the tribes (Judah and Benjamin)

their capital in Jerusalem.

Judah punished:
Because of idolatry, God also punished Judah, and the Two Tribe Southern Kingdom Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians. In 477 B.C.* Nebuchadnezzar took Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple of God (the same location of the Temple Mount in modern Israel). At this time there are still no Jews, there is only the Kingdom of Judah.

The Northern Kingdom:
Consisting of the other Ten Tribes were called Israel and their capital was at Samaria.

Israel punished:
Because of idolatry, God punished Israel, and The Ten Tribe Israel nation was taken into captivity by the Assyrians and Israel became a province of Assyria in 611 B.C.* and the people Israel dropped out of the Biblical narrative and profane history as well for the most part. They became not a people (lo-ammi).

You can read of this separation in 1 Kings chp 12

 

[BlessedPeace]

I agree, no Kenites on the ark. But later we se Kenites in the Bible.
The subject is the land of the Adamics, not the entire globe.

What is the Etymology of Adam, Adamites,on your brief system?

 

[Jack]

No. Israel is not Israel, and because you are not familiar with what has happening to Israel you mistakenly lump all tribes together calling them all Israel.

In the process of time these Twelve Tribes had a rift, and split into two Kingdoms:

The Northern Kingdom:
Consisting of the other Ten Tribes were called Israel and their capital was at Samaria.

You can read of this separation in 1 Kings chp 12

It's still Israel. Your opinions won't change that.

 

[Truthnightmare]

What is the Etymology of Adam, Adamites,on your brief system?

Basically formed from the ground, with the usage of the Hebrew article. Adamites or better said Adamics would be his descendants.

 

[Truthnightmare]

It's still Israel. Your opinions won't change that.

So when the Bible refers to the House of Judah, you get to change it to the House of Israel?

It’s not my opinion, it’s written in the word of God, and you haven’t read it.

I Kings 12:19 "So Israel rebelled against the house of David unto this day."

Remember this; that when you hear the word "ISRAEL" from this point on in scripture, it is always refering to the ten tribes that go to make up "the House of Israel". They will be the northern kingdom with their capital city of "Samaria". The other two tribes of Judah and Benjamin are now called the "house of Judah"

You can’t change that!

Website ~ TSO

 

[Jack]

So when the Bible refers to the House of Judah, you get to change it to the House of Israel?

It’s not my opinion, it’s written in the word of God, and you haven’t read it.

I Kings 12:19 "So Israel rebelled against the house of David unto this day."

Remember this; that when you hear the word "ISRAEL" from this point on in scripture, it is always refering to the ten tribes that go to make up "the House of Israel". They will be the northern kingdom with their capital city of "Samaria". The other two tribes of Judah and Benjamin are now called the "house of Judah"

You can’t change that!

Website ~ TSO

If Israel isn't Israel then who is Israel? You maybe? lol

 

[Truthnightmare]

Then who is Israel? You maybe? lol

It’s the race of people who fulfilled these prophecies… and it’s not the black/negro race and it damn sure isn’t the people who call themselves Jews living in the land of Israel at this moment.

1. Israel to be great and mighty nation. Gen. 12:2; 18:18; Deut. 4:7,8.

2. Israel to have multitudinous seed. Gen. 13:16; 15:5; 22:17; 24:60; 26:4, 24; 28:3, 14; 32:12; 49:22; Isa. 10:22; Hos. 1:10; Zech. 10:7,8.

3. Israel to spread abroad to the West, East, North and South. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 42:5, 6.

4. Israel to have a new home. 2nd Sam. 7:10; 1st Chron. 17:9.

5. Israel's home to be north-west of Palestine. Isa. 49:12; Jer. 3:18.

6. Israel to live in islands and coasts of the earth. Isa. 41:1; 49:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 31:7-10.

7. Israel to become a company of nations. Gen. 17:4-6, 15,16; 35:11; 48:19; Eph. 2:12.

8. Israel to have a Davidic King (a perpetual monarchy within Israel). 2nd Sam. 7:13,19; 1st Chron. 22:10; 2nd Chron. 13:5; Psa. 89:20, 37; Eze. 37:24; Jer. 33:17, 21, 26.

9. Israel to colonize and spread abroad. Gen. 28:14; 49:22; Deut. 32:8; 33:17; Psa. 2:8; Isa. 26:15; 27:6; 54:2; Zech. 10:8,9.

10. Israel to colonize the desolate place of the earth. Isa. 35:1; 43:19, 20; 49:8; 54:3; 58:11, 12.

11. Israel to lose a colony, then expand, demanding more room. Isa. 49:19, 20.

12. Israel to have all the land needed. Deut. 32:8.

13. Israel to be the first among the nations. Gen. 27:29; 28:13; Jer. 31:7.

14. Israel to continue as a nation forever. 2nd Sam. 7:16, 24, 29; 1st Chron. 17:22-27; Jer. 31:35-37.

15. Israel's home to be invincible to outside forces. 2nd Sam. 7:10; Isa. 41:11-14.

16. Israel to be undefeatable - defended by God. Num. 24:8, 9; Isa. 15-17; Micah 5:8, 9.

17. Israel to be God's instrument in destroying evil. Jer. 51:20; 51:19-24; Dan. 2:34, 35.

18. Israel to have a land of great mineral wealth. Gen. 49:25, 26; Deut. 8:9; 33:15-19.

19. Israel to have a land of great agricultural wealth. Gen. 27:28; Deut. 8:7, 9; 28:11; 33:13, 14, 28.

20. Israel to be rich by trading. Isa. 60:5-11; 61:6.

21. Israel to be envied and feared by all nations. Deut. 2:25; 4:8; 28:10; Isa. 43:4; 60:10, 12; Micah 7:16, 17; Jer. 33:9.

22. Israel to lend to other nations, borrowing of none. Deut. 15:6; 28.12.

23. Israel to have a new name. Isa. 62:2; 65:15; Hos. 2:17.

24. Israel to have a new language. Isa. 28:11 (The Bible, by means of which God speaks now to Israel, is English not Hebrew).

25. Israel to possess the gates of his enemies. Gen. 22:17.

26. Israel to find the aborigines diminishing before them. Deut. 33:17; Isa. 60:12.

27. Israel to have control of the seas. Deut. 33:19; Num. 24:7; Psa. 89:25; Isa. 60:5 (F. Fenton translates this last, "when rolls up to you all the wealth of the sea". That could not be unless Israel controlled it).

28. Israel to have a new religion (New Covenant.) Heb. 8:10-13; 9:17; Matt. 10:5-7; Luke 1:77; 2:32; 22:20; John 11:49-52; Gal. 3:13.

29. Israel to lose all trace of her lineage. Isa. 42:16-19; Hos. 1:9, 10; 2:6; Rom. 11:25.

30. Israel to keep Sabbath forever (one day in seven set aside). Ex. 31:13, 16, 17; Isa. 58:13, 14.

31. Israel to be called the sons of God (i.e., accept Christianity). Hos. 1:10-11.

32. Israel to be a people saved by the Lord. Deut. 33:27-29; Isa. 41:8-14; 43:1-8;44:1-3;49:25, 26; 52:1-12; 55:3-10, 13; Jer. 46:27, 28; Eze. 34:10-16; Hos. 2:23; 13:9-14; 14:4, 6.

33. Israel to be the custodians of the Oracles (Scriptures) of God. Psa. 147:19, 21; Isa. 59-21.

34. Israel to carry the Gospel to all the world. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 43:10-12 (witnesses), 21; Micah 5:7.

35. Israel to be kind to the poor and set slaves free. Deut. 15:7, 11; Psa. 72:4; Isa. 42:7; 49:9; 58:6.

36. Israel to be the heir of the world. Rom. 4:13.

37. Israel to be God's Glory. Isa. 46:13; 49:3; 60:1, 2.

38. Israel to possess God's Holy Spirit as well as His Word. Isa. 44:3; 59:21; Hagg. 2:5.

39. Israel to be God's Heritage, formed by God, forever. Deut. 4:20; 7:6; 14:2; 2nd Sam. 7:23; 1st Kings 8:51, 53; Isa. 43:21; 54:5-10; Hos. 2:19, 23; Joel 2:27; Micah 7:14 -18.

40. Israel is the nation appointed to bring glory to God. Isa. 41:8-16; 43:10, 21; 44:23; 49:3.​

 

[Jack]

It’s the race of people who fulfilled these prophecies… and it’s not the black/negro race and it damn sure isn’t the people who call themselves Jews living in the land of Israel at this moment.

1. Israel to be great and mighty nation. Gen. 12:2; 18:18; Deut. 4:7,8.

2. Israel to have multitudinous seed. Gen. 13:16; 15:5; 22:17; 24:60; 26:4, 24; 28:3, 14; 32:12; 49:22; Isa. 10:22; Hos. 1:10; Zech. 10:7,8.

3. Israel to spread abroad to the West, East, North and South. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 42:5, 6.

4. Israel to have a new home. 2nd Sam. 7:10; 1st Chron. 17:9.

5. Israel's home to be north-west of Palestine. Isa. 49:12; Jer. 3:18.

6. Israel to live in islands and coasts of the earth. Isa. 41:1; 49:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 31:7-10.

7. Israel to become a company of nations. Gen. 17:4-6, 15,16; 35:11; 48:19; Eph. 2:12.

8. Israel to have a Davidic King (a perpetual monarchy within Israel). 2nd Sam. 7:13,19; 1st Chron. 22:10; 2nd Chron. 13:5; Psa. 89:20, 37; Eze. 37:24; Jer. 33:17, 21, 26.

9. Israel to colonize and spread abroad. Gen. 28:14; 49:22; Deut. 32:8; 33:17; Psa. 2:8; Isa. 26:15; 27:6; 54:2; Zech. 10:8,9.

10. Israel to colonize the desolate place of the earth. Isa. 35:1; 43:19, 20; 49:8; 54:3; 58:11, 12.

11. Israel to lose a colony, then expand, demanding more room. Isa. 49:19, 20.

12. Israel to have all the land needed. Deut. 32:8.

13. Israel to be the first among the nations. Gen. 27:29; 28:13; Jer. 31:7.

14. Israel to continue as a nation forever. 2nd Sam. 7:16, 24, 29; 1st Chron. 17:22-27; Jer. 31:35-37.

15. Israel's home to be invincible to outside forces. 2nd Sam. 7:10; Isa. 41:11-14.

16. Israel to be undefeatable - defended by God. Num. 24:8, 9; Isa. 15-17; Micah 5:8, 9.

17. Israel to be God's instrument in destroying evil. Jer. 51:20; 51:19-24; Dan. 2:34, 35.

18. Israel to have a land of great mineral wealth. Gen. 49:25, 26; Deut. 8:9; 33:15-19.

19. Israel to have a land of great agricultural wealth. Gen. 27:28; Deut. 8:7, 9; 28:11; 33:13, 14, 28.

20. Israel to be rich by trading. Isa. 60:5-11; 61:6.

21. Israel to be envied and feared by all nations. Deut. 2:25; 4:8; 28:10; Isa. 43:4; 60:10, 12; Micah 7:16, 17; Jer. 33:9.

22. Israel to lend to other nations, borrowing of none. Deut. 15:6; 28.12.

23. Israel to have a new name. Isa. 62:2; 65:15; Hos. 2:17.

24. Israel to have a new language. Isa. 28:11 (The Bible, by means of which God speaks now to Israel, is English not Hebrew).

25. Israel to possess the gates of his enemies. Gen. 22:17.

26. Israel to find the aborigines diminishing before them. Deut. 33:17; Isa. 60:12.

27. Israel to have control of the seas. Deut. 33:19; Num. 24:7; Psa. 89:25; Isa. 60:5 (F. Fenton translates this last, "when rolls up to you all the wealth of the sea". That could not be unless Israel controlled it).

28. Israel to have a new religion (New Covenant.) Heb. 8:10-13; 9:17; Matt. 10:5-7; Luke 1:77; 2:32; 22:20; John 11:49-52; Gal. 3:13.

29. Israel to lose all trace of her lineage. Isa. 42:16-19; Hos. 1:9, 10; 2:6; Rom. 11:25.

30. Israel to keep Sabbath forever (one day in seven set aside). Ex. 31:13, 16, 17; Isa. 58:13, 14.

31. Israel to be called the sons of God (i.e., accept Christianity). Hos. 1:10-11.

32. Israel to be a people saved by the Lord. Deut. 33:27-29; Isa. 41:8-14; 43:1-8;44:1-3;49:25, 26; 52:1-12; 55:3-10, 13; Jer. 46:27, 28; Eze. 34:10-16; Hos. 2:23; 13:9-14; 14:4, 6.

33. Israel to be the custodians of the Oracles (Scriptures) of God. Psa. 147:19, 21; Isa. 59-21.

34. Israel to carry the Gospel to all the world. Gen. 28:14; Isa. 43:10-12 (witnesses), 21; Micah 5:7.

35. Israel to be kind to the poor and set slaves free. Deut. 15:7, 11; Psa. 72:4; Isa. 42:7; 49:9; 58:6.

36. Israel to be the heir of the world. Rom. 4:13.

37. Israel to be God's Glory. Isa. 46:13; 49:3; 60:1, 2.

38. Israel to possess God's Holy Spirit as well as His Word. Isa. 44:3; 59:21; Hagg. 2:5.

39. Israel to be God's Heritage, formed by God, forever. Deut. 4:20; 7:6; 14:2; 2nd Sam. 7:23; 1st Kings 8:51, 53; Isa. 43:21; 54:5-10; Hos. 2:19, 23; Joel 2:27; Micah 7:14 -18.

40. Israel is the nation appointed to bring glory to God. Isa. 41:8-16; 43:10, 21; 44:23; 49:3.​

Why aren't you in Israel??? You're claiming to be Israel, right?