HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO A CHURCH OTHER THAN YOUR OWN

[horsecamp]

I went to a funeral recently the guys was from a nondenominational church . he really was broken up about the person that died and did the best he could to get through the service.. he seemed very caring ..

 

[Suhar]

Like I said on another topic I never did understand why Christians are all so broken up and full of grief when they bury Christians?

That should be a party! Let us celebrate! Brother Bob finally left prison of his fallen body and went home to be in God’s presence!

 

[Angelina]

I went to a funeral in a Catholic Church once and watched two women consume a bottle of wine near the pulpit after they had given out the sacraments. It seemed kinda irreverent to me... :huh:

I also been to the Presbyterian, Salvation Army, Anglican, SDA, Primitive Methodist, Open Brethren, Baptist, AOG, Apostolic and other smaller congregations. I like the Pentecostal Churches the best but love the Salvation Armies heart for the lost and downtrodden.... :) but I don't like their uniforms or their bonnet type hats...JMO

Like I said on another topic I never did understand why Christians are all so broken up and full of grief when they bury Christians?

John 11
32 Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.”
33 Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. 34 And He said, “Where have you laid him?”
They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.”
35 Jesus wept.

...because God made us that way...

 

[aspen]

I attend daily Mass and a Presbyterian bible study and a nondenominational small group

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

My situation is kinda unique .... I became a christian outside of the church system , no preachers or pastors or Sunday school teachers etc , I had heard the gospel for the first time in my life at the age of 35 .... it was at a weekend business conference which had run late into a Sunday so a few guys had an informal little church service in a banquet room and I attended and believed in Christ as a result.

I was on my own after that and spent lots of time reading and studying my bible at home and eventually began attending church. I have never been a member of any church , depending where I am working I have attended probably 15 different ones including nearly all the denominations. I have also been several times to Jewish Synagog by invitation , (very nice experience by the way) ... I have been invited to , and have attended Jehovah's witness services (I was curious to see the cult from the inside) .... I have attended large and ornate Roman Catholic Churches (very Christian by the way) ... and have attended bone-poor little churches on an Indian reserve (one of my favorites).

I have attended full blown pentecostal services ... you know the kind where people are swinging from the chandeliers , rolling on the carpet , getting bonked on the head and falling backwards , people waving and swaying around like in a trance.

I have attended very dull and conservative church services where the men gather in a room for an hour before the service , sit around in silence , asking for the Holy Spirit to prompt them .... I found that very interesting , sometimes two or three men would burst out with a prayer or message for specifically someone or some situation .... it was spontaneous and from God and was always 100% applicable .... sometimes the whole hour would pass in silence .... I found that whole idea very interesting .... not one single person spoke unless the Holy Spirit instigated it . There was something very genuine about that setting.

 

[horsecamp]

I went to a funeral in a Catholic Church once and watched two women consume a bottle of wine near the pulpit after they had given out the sacraments. It seemed kinda irreverent to me... :huh:

I also been to the Presbyterian, Salvation Army, Anglican, SDA, Primitive Methodist, Open Brethren, Baptist, AOG, Apostolic and other smaller congregations. I like the Pentecostal Churches the best but love the Salvation Armies heart for the lost and downtrodden.... :) but I don't like their uniforms or their bonnet type hats...JMO




John 11
32 Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.”
33 Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. 34 And He said, “Where have you laid him?”
They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.”
35 Jesus wept.

...because God made us that way...

wasnt this website christianity board pentecostal owned and operated? perhaps it still is ?,,

 

[Angelina]

...no :huh:

 

[horsecamp]

salvation army their ADD "has" replced Jesus with a social gospel .

they completly take verses out of context and apply it to there social goals ..

their is every thing right with helping others and every thing wrong with the way their add tries to do that..

we are our brothers keeper but lets not pretend were a good keeper by providing our brothers comfort for only this life ..
our real goal is to provde them Jesus for both this life and the next..

 

[aspen]

i like salvation army doctrine except for not baptising people.

 

[Angelina]

Oh...I don't know their doctrine on baptizing people but I like them as people. They have good hearts :)

 

[horsecamp]

i like salvation army doctrine except for not baptising people.

i will go have a look at it on their website as im not familar with it .. im familar with only their add since it runs a whole bunch on TV.

Oh...I don't know their doctrine on baptizing people but I like them as people. They have good hearts :)

Go to their web site and tell me what they believe ..

i loooked at their mission statment

they say NO MORE OR LESS THAN a good mormon would ..


the gospel of Jesus christ yet they dont say what that gospel message is?


is their jesus like the mormon Jesus ? a you betta be good you betta not cry im tellin ya why?

perhaps i better go to their salvation army site again.. i must have overlooked something that tells me their beliefs about jesus..

my fault completly i looked in the wrong place its clear and its under what we believe ..

they dont have a santa claus Jesus THEY HAVE THE REAL ONE.

yet that tv add of theirs is junk !

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

salvation army their ADD "has" replced Jesus with a social gospel .

they completly take verses out of context and apply it to there social goals ..

their is every thing right with helping others and every thing wrong with the way their add tries to do that..

we are our brothers keeper but lets not pretend were a good keeper by providing our brothers comfort for only this life ..
our real goal is to provde them Jesus for both this life and the next..

I like the Salvation Army. I think their only mistake is not sticking to charity. No, they had to become a denomination with a platform of beliefs, one of them to scuttle water baptism. A charity should just focus on charity and they'll be fine.

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

Oh...I don't know their doctrine on baptizing people but I like them as people. They have good hearts :)

I agree , and they dedicate their lives , and the pay is tiny

I like to give to them .... hand them a dollar and 97 cents ends up directly helping the poor.

We have a tiny old Salvation Army building here in our city .... hard for them to find devoted staff .... but when it comes to appeals for food or clothing the citizens and churches respond with truck loads of it , Christians and non Christians alike. That alone says a lot.

As a side note I had retired from business in 1992 , wanted to do some community work , and was going to sign up as a part time Salvation Army staff .... I love the poor and the homeless and wanted to make sure they always got a bowl of soup and a place to stay.

My ego and pride figured they would be honored to have an upstanding businessman like me in their ranks. Boy was I wrong ... when I came to pick up an application the "sergeant" took a long silent look at me , reached slowly into his desk and pulled out a list of requirements to be an officer.

He said read it carefully .... there are a lot of requirements , it is not legalism , rather it defines a certain character we prefer.

Just on the first page I realized I would have to give up ... self-glorification , drinking , smoking and swearing (smile) ... and I knew I was not the right character for the Salvation Army.

I drink very little , still smoke cigarettes , and I have a few select swear words reserved for special occasions.

So I took the easy route , I simply send them money and food when they need it.

My boastful egotistical personality made me write this true story

:) :) :) :)

God Bless The Salvation Army

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

How does 97 cents out of every dollar go to the poor? Those bell ringers aren't working for free.

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

How does 97 cents out of every dollar go to the poor? Those bell ringers aren't working for free.

Never said they work for free , but I did say they work for tiny wages .... and by the way , they are paid a monthly salary , and I believe if they are bell ringing in the evenings or playing their band christmas music , they do not get extra pay.

By the way many of our malls and stores have donation kettles and often our politicians or businessmen will spend weeks of evenings taking care of it .... and they certainly are not being paid , nor are they seeking glory , they appreciate what the Sally Ann does for our poor,

Furthermore , I once asked the same question , how can they pay salaries and expenses if 93 - 97 % of the money goes directly for food and housing for the poor and homeless.

I was privately told that some of the homeless and alcoholic who were helped by the Salvation Army had gone on to become successful wealthy businessmen , community leaders , and even some politicians , and they donate part of their wealth to supply the money for staff wages .

Neat how that works . Thank you Lord

They like to remain anonymous , but if you look close you can spot some of those millionaires volunteering at Salvation Army Kettles in malls and stores around Christmas time.

Every one of us should put $100 in the kettle this year , God will keep us warm and fed all next year.

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

Never said they work for free , but I did say they work for tiny wages .... and by the way , they are paid a monthly salary , and I believe if they are bell ringing in the evenings or playing their band christmas music , they do not get extra pay.

By the way many of our malls and stores have donation kettles and often our politicians or businessmen will spend weeks of evenings taking care of it .... and they certainly are not being paid , nor are they seeking glory , they appreciate what the Sally Ann does for our poor,

Furthermore , I once asked the same question , how can they pay salaries and expenses if 93 - 97 % of the money goes directly for food and housing for the poor and homeless.

I was privately told that some of the homeless and alcoholic who were helped by the Salvation Army had gone on to become successful wealthy businessmen , community leaders , and even some politicians , and they donate part of their wealth to supply the money for staff wages .

Neat how that works . Thank you Lord

They like to remain anonymous , but if you look close you can spot some of those millionaires volunteering at Salvation Army Kettles in malls and stores around Christmas time.

Every one of us should put $100 in the kettle this year , God will keep us warm and fed all next year.

Well, unfortunately I've already paid over $600 to charity this Christmas season, so I got nothing left for the SA except maybe a few dollars here and there that everyone else gives at Walmart. And bell ringers aren't employed full time by the SA, it's seasonal work. I know you'd like to hope you get a lot of bang for your buck with the SA, but the truth is, because they cleverly disguised themselves as a religious organization and not a charity, they are exempt from having to fill a Form 990 with the IRS so their operational budget can't be confirmed.

Consumer beware.

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

Vale ... in my opinion you have already given a lot to charity , wow

Maybe it is different up here in Canada .... you would be hard pressed to find anything wrong with the Salvation army here , they are very efficient , very hard working , no glamor glory or waste.

With our cold winters if they did not bring the homeless inside at night they would freeze to death.

 

[horsecamp]

I went to a funeral in a Catholic Church once and watched two women consume a bottle of wine near the pulpit after they had given out the sacraments. It seemed kinda irreverent to me... :huh:

I also been to the Presbyterian, Salvation Army, Anglican, SDA, Primitive Methodist, Open Brethren, Baptist, AOG, Apostolic and other smaller congregations. I like the Pentecostal Churches the best but love the Salvation Armies heart for the lost and downtrodden.... :) but I don't like their uniforms or their bonnet type hats...JMO




John 11
32 Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.”
33 Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. 34 And He said, “Where have you laid him?”
They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.”
35 Jesus wept.

...because God made us that way...

IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE LORDS SUPPER ROMAN CATHOLICS BELIEVE after consecration there are only GODS BODY AND BLOOD a RE sacrafice for the catholic faithful of christs body and blood in the sacrament

so this is why I THINK the consuming of what was left was done .. I am surprised it was women that did the consuming.. its always the priest


Lutherans on the other hand believe the wine remain wine and the bread bread and God supernaturaly joins his body and blood given for all at the cross in with and under those earthly eleemnts ,,with out any mingling going on .

so we just poor the wine back in the bottle for the next time and put the bread wafers back also for next time ..

lutherans dont know when God joins his holy precious body and blood with the sacrament since scripture does not say ..is it when the earthly elements are consecreated (set aside for the lords supper ) or could it be at the moment of eating and drinking ? scripture does not tell us..


catholics and protestants both have two elements at holy communion .. for catholics its body and blood for protestants its wine and bread .

Lutherans have all 4..

 

[aspen]

Catholics have never taught that Christ is RE sacrificed during the Eucharist.

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

I should also mention the local Roman Catholic Church does lots for the poor here also ... and the old Presbyterian church has had the longest running soup kitchen in town. .... these are old churches with elderly and dwindling congregants so the rest of us donate food and money to them.

To be fair ... we do it more as a community duty rather than as christian good works , and surprisingly the majority of donations come from the non-church crowd.

The Pentecostal church focuses more on how bad the Catholic and Presbyterians are and how cold and dull their worship services are.

I am Pentecostal
I once was fooled
And now I am not

Because I checked out ...
-the Local Catholic Church
-The local Presbyterian Church
-The local Salvation Army
- So now I say ...
-God bless them all