He is a Jew, He is not a Jew: the physical seed of promise

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1. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; Neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; And circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit... (Rom 2:28-29)

He is not a Jew, that is one born of the flesh: Not according to God.

He is not circumcised, that is circumcised in the flesh: Not according to God.

He is a Jew, that is born of the Spirit: According to God.

He is circumcised, that is circumcised in the spirit: According to God.

And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. (Rev 2:9, 3:9)

Any who say they are Jews by the flesh are liars, as well as any who say they are circumcised in the flesh, because according to God, they are not.

Only those born of the Spirit and circumcised in the spirit can say they are Jews before God, and not be called liars by God.

2. The children of Israel, and of Isaac, and of Abraham are the seed of promise fulfilled in Christ Jesus:

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. (Gal 3:7)

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. (Gal 4:28)

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26)

The children of God by faith in Jesus are the children of Abraham; the children of promise as Isaac.

The Lord God, who raised up the seed of promise by Abraham and Isaac, called them in Scripture the children of Israel. And the Lord God, who returned them from captivity of Babylon, called them in Scripture the Jews. Now that same Lord and God calls them no more the children of Israel and Jews, but rather calls them liars, if they call themselves such after the flesh.

The Lord God and risen Savior now calls children of Abraham and Jews only those born after the Spirit and circumcised of the heart.
 

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The children of Israel, and of Isaac, and of Abraham are the seed of promise fulfilled in Christ Jesus:

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. (Gal 3:7)

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. (Gal 4:28)

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26)

The children of God by faith in Jesus are the children of Abraham; the children of promise as Isaac.

(Gal 4:21-31)
The covenant of the Lord made with the physical seed of promise of Abraham is now old and vanished away and now genders to bondage, which is called by Scripture: Hagar, which is earthy mount Sinai, answering to Jerusalem on earth, with her children that still read Moses of old (Acts 15:21) and desire to be under the law of Moses, that was done away in Christ. (2 Cor 3:7-11)

The children of Abraham born after the flesh, that were the physical seed of promise, before they had their own Lord and Christ crucified, have made themselves the children of the bondwoman Hagar, and have been cast out with her:

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

There is no more physical seed of promise on earth with God: They who were are now the physical seed of Abraham and Hagar, not of Abraham and Sarah. With God there is no more physical seed of Abraham and Sarah on earth.

At the death of the Lord God on the cross, all things in heaven and in earth changed in an instant. All the old things of the physical seed passed away, and behold, all things of the seed of promise are new and of God. (2 Cor 5:17-18)

Even as Jesus' arms are spread wide upon the cross to welcome any to come to the Father by Him, so also does His crucified arms bar any that would come up another way. (John 10:1)

This includes any physical seed, even as no flesh shall ever be justified in the sight of God (Rom 3:20). God who saw the promised physical seed of old, from that of Isaac, now only sees His Son and the Spirit of Christ in them that believe, which are His children and seed of promise by Abraham and Sarah, even as Isaac.

After the cross in sight of God, all physical seed on the earth that believe not, are Gentiles which know not God (1 Thess 4:5). There is now only one physical seed, which is of Adam, even as one blood. (Acts 17:26)

There is no Jew vs Gentile in the body of Christ, for there are no Gentile members thereof, only children of Abraham and Jews circumcised of the heart. And there is no Jew vs Gentile among the unsaved nations of the earth, for they which say they are Jews are liars, and are only Gentiles without God.
 

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  1. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. (Gal 3:7)

    Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise
    . (Gal 4:28)

    'We brethren' of the Lord Jesus are now the children of Abraham by promise, as Isaac was.

    To say there there remains a physical seed of promise of Abraham and Sarah, as Isaac, is therefore to say there now are two seeds of promise in the world, which contradicts the Scripture:

    Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. (Gal 3:16)

    There has been and always will be only one seed of promise of God at a time: First the physical seed of Abraham and Sarah: Isaac and his physical offspring by Jacob. Now the seed of faith of Abraham by Jesus Christ.

    There never were, are not, and never will be two seeds of promise, only one at a time.

    The physical seed of promise no longer exists, even as the old covenant made with them has vanished away.

    The death of God's Son on the cross was not just a blip in the prophecies of old pertaining to God's seed of promise: it was the end pertaining to the old physical seed, and the beginning pertaining to the new seed of faith in Jesus.

    God will not turn exclusively to any physical seed of promise in the future, because that seed ended at the cross. They are now of Hagar, except they repent and abide not still in unbelief, and are grafted in again as seed of promise by Jesus.


 

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1. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; Neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; And circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit... (Rom 2:28-29)

He is not a Jew, that is one born of the flesh: Not according to God.

He is not circumcised, that is circumcised in the flesh: Not according to God.

He is a Jew, that is born of the Spirit: According to God.

He is circumcised, that is circumcised in the spirit: According to God.

And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. (Rev 2:9, 3:9)

Any who say they are Jews by the flesh are liars, as well as any who say they are circumcised in the flesh, because according to God, they are not.

Only those born of the Spirit and circumcised in the spirit can say they are Jews before God, and not be called liars by God.

2. The children of Israel, and of Isaac, and of Abraham are the seed of promise fulfilled in Christ Jesus:

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. (Gal 3:7)

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. (Gal 4:28)

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26)

The children of God by faith in Jesus are the children of Abraham; the children of promise as Isaac.

The Lord God, who raised up the seed of promise by Abraham and Isaac, called them in Scripture the children of Israel. And the Lord God, who returned them from captivity of Babylon, called them in Scripture the Jews. Now that same Lord and God calls them no more the children of Israel and Jews, but rather calls them liars, if they call themselves such after the flesh.

The Lord God and risen Savior now calls children of Abraham and Jews only those born after the Spirit and circumcised of the heart.
There are only 2 kinds of humans on all the earth.
The children of God and the children of the devils.

That is it. Nothing more and nothing less.
 

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The Israel wannabe's are in DEEP trouble!

Genesis 12:3 (NKJV)
3 I will curse him who curses you;
 

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The Israel wannabe's are in DEEP trouble!

Genesis 12:3 (NKJV)
3 I will curse him who curses you;
And when God curses them?

As the covenant and the promise goes, so does the blessing.

If someone curses themselves by unbelief, is it cursing them to acknowledge them as such?

Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Prophets, apostles, and anointed in Christ.

What's really being cursed here is the prophesies of men, and their learned mantra. Old dogs that refuse new Scripture of the new Covenant, when trying to interpret prophecy.

You idolize and prop up a fleshly seed of unbelief, that is no longer of God by crucifying His Son, that you may cling to your own prophesies, that you no doubt have spent much much time travailing over.
 

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The Israel wannabe's are in DEEP trouble!

Genesis 12:3 (NKJV)
3 I will curse him who curses you;
Is he a Jew that is one outwardly? Is outward circumcision in the flesh, circumcision?

Is there one that is circumcised inwardly that is not a Jew?

Is Israel after the flesh, Israel of God? Are the children of promise of God, the children of the flesh?

Are the brethren of the King of Israel not of Israel? Are the children of the God of Israel not children of Israel?

Are the children of promise to Abraham counted for the seed, but not the seed of promise?

Is the holy olive tree to be graft into, the Israel of God? What are the Gentiles come in to?

Is Christ divided? Are there two seeds and children of the God of Israel?
 

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There are only 2 kinds of humans on all the earth.
The children of God and the children of the devils.

That is it. Nothing more and nothing less.
Children of God and promise by christ Jesus, and the children born after the flesh in bondage, without God